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benji88
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   Posted 3/21/2008 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
None of my other toes do, but both my big toes click, and have for a few years now, since I was about 14. Because I never noticed the clicking before, it seems strange. However I have been to see a doctor about this who says its normal, I just find that hard to accept though and was wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences?

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   Posted 3/21/2008 1:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Depending on what the click is...does it hurt when it clicks.
This can be as simple as a tendon moving or it can be arthritis or bone spurs...in other words not enough info to really comment. If it doesn't hurt, and they aren't red or inflamed and your doctor says it nothing to worry about then I wouldnt worry.
My feet don't do this but one of my ankles does-in my case it does hurt-its a bone spur and its still nothing to be overly concerned about becasue nothing I do will make it worse or better.
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   Posted 3/21/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for the reply SJ. There is a slight redness, which the doctor basically dismissed. And no it doesn't hurt, but its just one of those things that is really annoying! Clicking knees and elbows are enough, but my big toes aswell! It has even been known for me to get woken up at night by my toes involuntarily clicking confused

Thanks anyway for the reply mate cool


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   Posted 3/21/2008 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   
what are you doing when they click? just curling them? Or walking? Is there any swelling?
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   Posted 3/21/2008 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I would want a second opinion redness and clicking when you sleep does not sound like nothing.
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   Posted 3/22/2008 12:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd be more concerned about the knees. My knees started to crackle years ago and I never went to have them checked. Now it's bone rubbing against bone and will probably have to have surgery. At that time I was concerned about my heel spurs, which were very painful and was prescribed orthotic inserts for my shoes. They didn't work , finally they came up with a simple way to relieve the pain by cutting some of the ligaments on my heel. Now it's the other heal , bunions and hammer toe. I will be seeing another podiatrist on Monday to see what he advises. My other podiatrist has retired, he was really good. You'r probably going to need an injection of (I think it's called snoviyal fluid). on your toes. good luck june

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   Posted 3/22/2008 4:31 AM (GMT -7)   
benji, you know my daughter is a dancer and her tendons are over stretched and with every step they snap! it is kinda creepy sounding if you think about it but it is her walk and the good news is she can never sneak around the house cause she is a noisey sneak! lol but like sj said it could be a simple tendon.

june how do you now it is bone on bone? does it feel like it or did you have a test? good luck with those issues.

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   Posted 3/22/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Ducky said...
what are you doing when they click? just curling them? Or walking? Is there any swelling?

No, not really any swelling. As for the click, if i make a tiny movement in my toe, i have to complete it which is when it will click. also, when walking this occurs.

benji88
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   Posted 3/22/2008 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
june17 said...
I'd be more concerned about the knees. My knees started to crackle years ago and I never went to have them checked. Now it's bone rubbing against bone and will probably have to have surgery. At that time I was concerned about my heel spurs, which were very painful and was prescribed orthotic inserts for my shoes. They didn't work , finally they came up with a simple way to relieve the pain by cutting some of the ligaments on my heel. Now it's the other heal , bunions and hammer toe. I will be seeing another podiatrist on Monday to see what he advises. My other podiatrist has retired, he was really good. You'r probably going to need an injection of (I think it's called snoviyal fluid). on your toes. good luck june
Thanks, I might ask about an injection.
On a separate point, does anyone know about Turf Toe? I found it while doing some research into my problem online.

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   Posted 3/22/2008 11:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Yalinda: Yes I went to a bone specialist to have my bulging disks and knees checked . I had already had an MRI so I took it with me. The experience was less than good, I waited for the doctor in a cotton gown for 4 hours. Theyl could have asked me to come back right. Any way he said he had been in surgery. He was a retired Dr. who had decided to come back. (greed) He looked at mY MRI and said he had never seen one of those before and was quit interested. Offered no solution. Next he had an X-Ray done on my knees. He said there was no cartliage left and the pain was rubbing against bone. He told me we could start by trying an injection. Before even considering surgery. Next he sort of dismissed me and told me to come back when I was REALLY IN PAIN what the h*** did he figure I was there for. Needless to say I never went back and have been suffering for years . Now I'm ready to try a REAL BONE SPECIALIST. After my feet of course. Wish me luck. (I will walk out before I have to waite 4 hours for anything again). june

benji88
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   Posted 3/23/2008 4:47 AM (GMT -7)   
How dangerous is MRI? Thanks.

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   Posted 3/23/2008 11:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Benji88 MRI,s are very safe. It does'nt hurt. Much safer than an X-ray. Very expensive I don't believe your problem will require an MRI. They are similar to a Cat-Scan. Just had one of those two weeks ago. Simple don't even need to take your clothes off if your clothes don't have metal. Good Luck june

yalinda
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   Posted 3/26/2008 4:50 AM (GMT -7)   
omgoodness june! definetly get a new doc! hopefully one with a brain and not waiting for OZ to show up. lol

benji- most mri's are a last resort due to their cost! very expensive test often refused by insurances unless properly documented the need.
recetnly when i had like 3-5 xrays of every joint on my body i asked the technician if i was at risk with so many xrays at one time.... like 40?
she said that all of them together was less exposure than one ctscan. i found that interesting.

well g2g take care and good luck peps.

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   Posted 3/26/2008 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Benji: I'd definately pursue this...ask for a referral to an orthopedist.

June: I'd also suggest that you see an orthopedist take a good look at that MRI. Not to scare you, but my daughter was just diagnosed with AVN (avascular necrosis, aka osteonecrosis) probably brought on by steroid use to bring her ulcerative colitis under control (didn't work). She has it in both knees and her right elbow but we are told that there is a window of approx 3 years where it can pop up in other places...the most common place being the hips. Now I am here to look for others who are experiencing this bone disease (areas of dead bone) with little hope other than reconstructive surgery when the bone collapses. They say it's best to catch it early so that they can try some non invasive techniques to encourage new bone growth. So, if you're experiencing pain or swelling in joint areas, be proactive and seek medical care.
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lavendar
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   Posted 3/27/2008 1:01 AM (GMT -7)   
To all who posted: I figured that since my knees really aren't an issue at this point. I'd get the bone spur on my foot that is so very painful right now, fixed. My regular podiotrist has retired so I went to special surgen podiotrist (whatever) . He looked at my feet took several x-rays . Remember I went in for a bone spur since one had already been surgically removed several years ago. Dr. comes back and tells me this bone spur is really worse than the other one. I should consider surgery on this foot as well. Turns out he is an exceptionally good Dr. , ( according to my PC Dr. )
But he told me both of my feet are totally messed up as I could see on the x-rays. He gave me a shot on the heel to help temporarly and I have to return on Friday after he has discussed my situation with his partner. I need (on one foot) bone spur,bunion and hammer toe surgically fixed. On the other foot I have the long toe bone growing wrong and it will have to be broken and straightened out along with work on the bunion on that foot and hammer toe as well. My previous Dr. had told me I would eventually have to get some work done. He had already tried the shots, 3 different types of othotic inserts for my shoes and eventually had to do the surgery on one heel spur. In the mean time I am deteriorating. My son says I should never have gone to see another Dr. tells me I have just opened up another can of worms. I do have to do something and fast. The one good thing about it is surgery has really improved since my last one. And I was able to walk out on my own. Of course this time there are three procedures on one foot. I'm sure I won't walk out on this one on my own. Thanks all for listing to me . They may not even be able to do anything If my other Dr.'s don't approve because of the arthritis etc. Thanks for listing to me ramble on. june

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   Posted 3/29/2008 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey there June.. how did your doctor's appt go yesterday? What did he say?
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   Posted 3/30/2008 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Ducky,
Posted already but for some reason it did'nt come out. My appointment went fine, do to my reason and remarks about getting it done ASAP. He was able to shuffle his other surgeries around to get me in soon. So I've been very busy doing as much as I can around the house this weekend . Things I wont be able to do on crutches. My surgery is Monday (tomorrow) Imagine how my mouth dropped when he said that. My PC won't even see me that quickly when I'm ill. So here we go again at the top of the roller coaster ride. Wish me luck. june

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   Posted 4/2/2008 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh June.. I'm so sorry for my late reply.. I just read this.. how are you? How did the surgery go?
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   Posted 4/6/2008 2:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Ducky.
I had surgery it went well then the pain was excruciating , Later Monday evening Dr. called to check up on me. He said should not be suffering. So I tried them for a couple of days , they made me very lightheaded and I felt like , and felt as if I had cottonballs in my mouth. I have to go back to have my the stitches removed on Monday. He also told me it was a orm of arthritus

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   Posted 4/6/2008 3:40 PM (GMT -7)   
so what is the next step? please let us know how everything goes after your appt tomorrow
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   Posted 4/7/2008 11:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow! just read my old post. What happened to most of my words.? Guess they got stuck on the cotton balls. Ha Ha!! I went to see Dr. again today Monday, he will not be taking the stitches out yet. He just put new bandages on my foot. The foot seems to be healing well. The first time I saw it it was really swollen and grose. Today , stitches and foot are no longer swollen . He had prescribed antibiotics on Friday but today he says it does't look infected. As far as mobility. I borrowed a walker from a friend of mine and only used it for two days. Now I am able to get around just fine. Not much pain on toes, no pain on heel spur. So all seems well hope it stays that way, at least for a while. Dr. did say it is partially arthritis related and there is a posibility of recurrance. But for now I am fine. Thanks for asking . june

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   Posted 4/7/2008 11:43 PM (GMT -7)   
walking without a walker? How awesome is that! Good for you! Keep us posted and let us know how you are doing..

P.S... we'll chalk up your previous post to cottonballs.. tee hee hee :)
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   Posted 4/8/2008 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
June that's great glad to hear you are doing well.
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