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gmaA
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   Posted 7/2/2008 12:57 AM (GMT -7)   
  Hey everyone, I am new to the arthritis forum, but not to healing well.  I have several other problems including ibs and fibromyalgia among other things.  I am hoping you can help me with some questions about this new diagnosis.  I got the results of my mri today and it revealed facet arthritis worse at L3, L4 and L5.  Also said smooth flat something as well.  The nurse called me and was telling me, i don't have the report on hand.  Anyway, I have an appt on the 10th with my doctor for my routine appt, but until then I don't know much except he said he thought I may benefit from facet injections.  The nurse didn't know what it was and I am not sure either.  He said I could go to pain clinic or surgical clinic in our area.  I decided to wait and talk to him at next appt. 
  Could anyone explain this to me I have never heard of facet arthritis until today.  I did look on internet and got some info, but still not about injections.  Also, would this be a type of degenerative arthritis. 
  I have had low back pain for years off and on; I am 39 y/o and since 1990 with my 2nd child, I have had pain in buttock and down leg above knee, but mri said no pinched nerve - it comes and goes; could this facet arthritis cause this pain without a pinched nerve?
   Also, I take oxycodone and use a fentanyl patch, mobic and skelaxin and the pain breaks thru this, that is why he sent me for the mri.
  I also am curious how I could have gotten this; Last year I was checked for RA and one of my lab tests was elevated ( can't remember which one ), but not both, so doc said basically that didn't mean anything since both were not elevated.  Didn't see a rheumatologist though.
  I also am having pain in my thoracic area on 2 different discs and they stick out - doc doesn't know about this yet.  I also have a lot of pain in wrist, elbows and hands, but have had it a long time and was diagnosed with fibromyalgia last year because of widespread pain and such.
  Sorry this is so long, but just wanted some advice / opinions and explanations of disease and injections especially.  Any advice would be appreciated = next week seems a long ways off to wait.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal.

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic 


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 7/4/2008 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Floss i just news (and the report) of severe arthritus in my back and that has worsened geat since last year making Degenerative Disc Disease.  I have questions too, i just had facet injections and they did not help me.
I hope someone can help us with any advice. I have many questions for my doc, is this degenerating just gonna get worse, can it be halted or slowed down, or just be treated for pain as it worsens??? my feet are going numb an they are swollen, but my blood presure is fine. its hurts to do just about anything.
anyway good luck Floss on answers , i hope i get some too...


 
God Bless,and have a Great Day!!.......Love.....Sheryl
xcema,hypermobile,Chronic Bronchitus,Fatigue,Positive ANAFibro-05--Had surgery on left & right knees 06, Interstial Cystitis-06 Spondlylosis/Disc Degernation Disease severe arthitis lower back -08,implantedInterstim-06 hysterectomy & IBS-06 Arthiritus-04 Depression-04GERDS/ Hiatial hernia -07   Anxiety-07 Gastroparesis-08--Occasional Migraines
 Reglan,Protonix,Prozac,Wellbutrin,Erthomyicin,klonipin,occasional phernergan, loratab, zanaflex  marrried 2 children, 1 with mild autism, Bipolar(8),  Abilify, Buspar, Celexa Son(13) is bipolarw/migraines, Topamax, ZantacGod plz grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference..." Plz help HW to help others by donating: http://www.healingwell.com/donate/

Post Edited (sheryl=jk) : 7/5/2008 6:34:18 AM (GMT-6)


gmaA
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   Posted 7/4/2008 10:58 PM (GMT -7)   
sheryl=jk, i am sorry to hear that you have been diagnosed with arthritis too. I have felt soo bad lately and in so much pain. I hope to get some answers on the 10th when I see the doc. I don't know a lot about my report yet. I have swollen or protruding disc at about T12 & T10 I think as well as a lot of pain there too. The lady doing the mri said that the mri would go up that far so I hope to know what is going on there as well. My mri was only done on my lumbar spine, because my doc wasn't aware of the pain and problems in my thorasic area at that time. Between my ibs (which is horrible today - lots of spasms and multiple trips to the bathroom with excruciating pain and nausea) and lower back pain from the arthritis. My pain meds hardly touch this arthritis. I have been so depressed today because of all this pain. I feel so useless anymore, I have very few good days at all anymore. I am just not the person I use to be and I absolutely hate it. I don't know if my depression medicine is working anymore or if there is just so much going on that nothing will work. Everything is just bad right now here. I am sick with something all the time anymore. My husband is never sick, but for the last 6 weeks, he has been really sick. He has had 2 surgeries in less than 2 weeks for kidney stones. Then he got pneumonia, pleuracy and partial lung collapsed. Then he had to have an EGD to check for scar tissue or cancer, which thank god turned out to be neither false reading. He doesn't get paid if he is out of work and he has hardly been able to work and I have had to take care of him and that has been really hard for me. I didn't do as good of a job as I feel like I should have either, due to my health problems. I haven't worked in over a year and we are already struggling financially and behind on our house payments. Now we are in even worse shape. I filed for disability over a year ago and of course was denied; now I am waiting on a hearing with the judge. If I ever get that and the back pay, we will be fine financially, when i ever get it. That is if we don't lose everything before then. Anyway, I have just not felt good at all lately emotionally or physically; which stress makes my condition worse too. I hope I can find something to help this back pain though. I haven't been able to do anything today due to illness and I have these days a lot. I hate it so badly. I feel worthless a lot of the times. Like I said this has been a bad day. Sorry for the long post I just needed to vent I guess. Thanks for responding to my post though.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia,arthritis, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal; liver resection

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic, fioracett, skelaxin


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 7/5/2008 5:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Dont feel bad for venting Floss, thats why were  here, especially when were two peas in a pod, i appled for disabilyt and was denied. have never tried to re appeal, i geuss i have got to start all over again, i have gotten alot worse since the first time i applied.Fortunaly though my husband is in good shape an has two jobs, but makes me feel like C**P. he doesnt understand how bad i really feel, so i am in august going to try out for a sub teaching job, which may not be too bad, the kids have to take potty breaks often, I will only accept offers for 1st grade and under only, its all i know how to teach. I and i fgure i get up an down alot, dont have lift anything real heavy, i would only be subbbing anyway.
I just want answers, is the degenterive disc disease gonna get worse yearly, it seemed to from last year alone in sacral lumbar areato this year in just one year. with bugling and herniated discs, i made them make me a copy of the report for my own record, and a cd of the cat scan, so i could see for my slef
and its really interesting to see things played on a medical cd, you can see your back form different areas and your discs from a top image, and it shows thing moving like the gel in you spine,  kinda neat to watch. then a full view of my back, i could see where the arthritus was
kinda of a dense white area. i go back in august and will ask these questions.
But wondering anyone here has experienced this where your lower spine is dengerating and how fast, im only 39 , if im this bad now what im i gonna be like a 49, i watched my 52 yr old Sister in law pick up my 85 pound child and swing her around, i could never do that, I just want answers please anyone?
 
God Bless,and have a Great Day!!.......Love.....Sheryl
xcema,hypermobile,Chronic Bronchitus,Fatigue,Positive ANAFibro-05--Had surgery on left & right knees 06, Interstial Cystitis-06 Spondlylosis/Disc Degernation Disease severe arthitis lower back -08,implantedInterstim-06 hysterectomy & IBS-06 Arthiritus-04 Depression-04GERDS/ Hiatial hernia -07   Anxiety-07 Gastroparesis-08--Occasional Migraines
 Reglan,Protonix,Prozac,Wellbutrin,Erthomyicin,klonipin,occasional phernergan, loratab, zanaflex  marrried 2 children, 1 with mild autism, Bipolar(8),  Abilify, Buspar, Celexa Son(13) is bipolarw/migraines, Topamax, ZantacGod plz grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference..." Plz help HW to help others by donating: http://www.healingwell.com/donate/


gmaA
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   Posted 7/6/2008 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
I am 39 too and the mri said major changes especially in the l3,l4 and l5 area, not sure about the rest yet, because the nurse was telling me over the phone. Like I said I go to the doctor this thursday and I am going to try to find out some answers and I will let you know. I don't know if mine is degenerative or osteoarthritis or what - all I know is facet arthritis and the nurse didn't know anything about it either or about facet injections... all I know for sure is that I hurt really, really bad and this is breaking through my regular pain meds (fentanyl patch and oxycodone) although I would hate to see what it felt like now without. My back has bothered me off and on for years, but lately it just doesn't seem to stop.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia,arthritis, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal; liver resection

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic, fioracett, skelaxin


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 7/11/2008 7:26 AM (GMT -7)   
No mine doesnt seem to stop eother, cant sit comfrotably or lay comfortably. i am on two lorabs a day and thats it as far as pain killers, and its not helping, thislast time he put me on zanaflex for the spasms, not sure its really helping. im just scared that is changes so severly in one year, and i can tell, how much will it change in another year???
Keep me posted to what you find out and I will keep you posted.
 
 
God Bless,and have a Great Day!!.......Love.....Sheryl
xcema,hypermobile,Chronic Bronchitus,Fatigue,Positive ANAFibro-05--Had surgery on left & right knees 06, Interstial Cystitis-06 Spondlylosis/Disc Degernation Disease severe arthitis lower back -08,implantedInterstim-06 hysterectomy & IBS-06 Arthiritus-04 Depression-04GERDS/ Hiatial hernia -07   Anxiety-07 Gastroparesis-08--Occasional Migraines
 Reglan,Protonix,Prozac,Wellbutrin,Erthomyicin,klonipin,occasional phernergan, loratab, zanaflex  marrried 2 children, 1 with mild autism, Bipolar(8),  Abilify, Buspar, Celexa Son(13) is bipolarw/migraines, Topamax, ZantacGod plz grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference..." Plz help HW to help others by donating: http://www.healingwell.com/donate/


gmaA
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   Posted 7/13/2008 10:24 PM (GMT -7)   
sheryl=jk, I am sorry I haven't been on here lately; I have been so sick with pain and fatigue. I was too sick to even go to the doctor. I rescheduled for this Wed, but I will have to see the PA instead of my doctor, because he is on vacation. Hope I can get some questions answered, but the PA is fairly new and in the past, I haven't been impressed with her too much. I have to get my meds refilled though, but we will see what she says. I will go back and see my regular doc in a few weeks anyway, so one way or another I will find out. I will let you know what she says though. Again, sorry, but I just could not even make myself go and I really want to know about this stuff and I am considering those facet injections, no matter what they are, because I have been in so much pain lately. Even when I get it calmed down some, the least little thing I do, I comes right back. My lower back is on fire and I have pain in my buttocks and down my leg and I have a hard time finding a position to get the pressure to release. The heating pad has helped quite a bit. Hope you are doing ok.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia,arthritis, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal; liver resection

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic, fioracett, skelaxin


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 7/14/2008 5:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Floss seems we got of the same things going on, i just want answers, and my PM doc is holding out on me, I need to see an orthopedic surgeon, for more answers, how fas is this goign to degeneratic, becuz my tests say they drastically changed from last year, i a feel it, what its gonna be next year. Sad part no one belives me, husbadn doint care what dr reports says he just cares he cant affford to keeo shelling out money. i need help being able to get on disablity. tryed once and was denied. So i lost hope. Only that would stand up for me was my phyhcitrist. the others said well you hav to go to their(ssi) on doctors. So i lost hope.
I now i really cant afford anything. work is slow I truly am unable to work butmy husband keeps saying try mcdonalds, is he crazy. as i sit here my foot is numb both feet are swollen my back is killing me litterally. UH i just needed to vent,not even sure my husband is gona get the rest of my meds which i need
sigh sad
 
God Bless,and have a Great Day!!.......Love.....Sheryl
xcema,hypermobile,Chronic Bronchitus,Fatigue,Positive ANAFibro-05--Had surgery on left & right knees 06, Interstial Cystitis-06 Spondlylosis/Disc Degernation Disease severe arthitis lower back -08,implantedInterstim-06 hysterectomy & IBS-06 Arthiritus-04 Depression-04GERDS/ Hiatial hernia -07   Anxiety-07 Gastroparesis-08--Occasional Migraines
 Reglan,Protonix,Prozac,Wellbutrin,Erthomyicin,klonipin,occasional phernergan, loratab, zanaflex  marrried 2 children, 1 with mild autism, Bipolar(8),  Abilify, Buspar, Celexa Son(13) is bipolarw/migraines, Topamax, ZantacGod plz grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference..." Plz help HW to help others by donating: http://www.healingwell.com/donate/


gmaA
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   Posted 7/14/2008 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh my goodness, I feel so bad for you. I know about the financial strain; trust me, I know all too well. I haven't been able to work in over a year, really a year and a half. We struggle constantly to make ends meet and really don't, because we are behind on our house payment and I often have to go without some of my meds or get samples from the doctor. My Mama helps us out as much as possible, but I feel guilty for that, because she doesn't have a lot of money either and I feel like we are putting her in a bind as well. I have filed for disability and briefly here goes on that subject: My doctors all agree on it; My primary doc wrote a letter to them as well and this time I have a lawyer. My diagnosis are not ones that you get disability on automatically, so between that and my age of 39 and my education, I am having a hard time and I am now in the 2nd appeal stage, where I go before a judge, but my lawyer feels sure I will get it and is asking it to retro back to initial application in pay, because I barely missed the appeal date and tried to work casual part time and was unable to do so had to quit after just 3 weeks. My husband stays frustrated and upset and often angry about the whole situation. He works hard and there still isn't enough money and the house stays a mess. He resents my illness very much and sometimes doesn't handle it very well; I saw numerous doctors before they really took me seriously.... after a few visits and they couldn't figure it out or fix me, they got aggrivated and started acting like I was crazy or something. I finally found some good and I mean really good and caring doctors, but it indeed took awhile, so don't give up. I know how frustrating it is, but do not give up. You have to keep going and trying to get answers and some help from them; find another doctor if you are not completely satisfied with the ones you are seeing. I had some docs (specialist) tell me there is no such thing as fibromyalgia or ibs and they didn't believe how much pain I was in and I cried many a day and night, but their are doctors out there who really care and will help you, so find another one and another one if you have to. Good luck with that, I hope you get some good help. I want answers too and if I could just get to my doctor again, I could get us some answers. Good luck, I hope you feel better and your spirits get lifted as well. And one more thing, you only see the disability doctors if social security admin makes you see their doctors; the first time I filed they did send me to a psychiatrist to be evaluated, but otherwise no other doctors - and they pay for that, you don't.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia,arthritis, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal; liver resection

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic, fioracett, skelaxin


gmaA
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   Posted 7/16/2008 9:35 PM (GMT -7)   
ok, so I saw the PA today and this is what she told me about my mri and facet arthritis: Facet arthritis is just explaining where the arthritis is located. It is just arthritis - degenerative (osteoarthritis), the same thing basically and yes it is going to continue to get worse. I do not know at what rate. The facet injections are like epidurals and according to her, they work about 70% of the time, the other times they don't work at all. She told me just to let them know if I wanted to start them and they would set me up with a consultation with the man who does them. She felt like I may benefit from them because I am so young and maybe it would give me some pain relief and give me back some quality of life. My mri says that mine is most advanced at l3, l4, and l5. She also felt like the buldging areas in my middle back (thorasic) area is also arthritis, but my mri was only done on the lumbar area. She also didn't feel like my anti-depressant needed to be increased or changed, because I have some good days and when I do, I am happy, I just get really down in the dumps when I am sick, really sick and so tierd and drained for so many days in row. She says that being so young and having these chronic problems especially the fibromyalgia and arthritis and ibs, that it just really takes a toil on me and they are really bad problems to have. Also, I have been out of my hormone patch for 2-3 weeks (due to not being able to afford them), and she says that that can make you feel lousy. She says I really need to keep them in my system, because I am young and my body is use to having them in my system all the time and just stopping them abruptly is not good at all. So, I am going to get them filled tomorrow or Friday hopefully. I have been having horrible hot flashes. All I know is that I have been miserable and things just aren't going very well around here. Lots of stressors and my illnesses are worse because of it all. Too many stressors to list right now and on this thread. Anyway, facet arthritis is where the arthritis is located. It is arhtritis - degenerative / osteoarthritis and it is going to progressively get worse over time. Facet injections are like epidural injections to treat the pain. Hopes this helps. One more thing - she said it absolutely causes buttock and leg pain. With arthritis, it flares up and gets inflammed and that causes the pain and the bones rubbing together. Lots of fun for us, uh. Hope this helps some.

Have a wonderful pain free day, Anne.

IBS, fibromyalgia,arthritis, depression, anxiety, PTSD, GERD, migraines, past endometriosis, ovarian cysts, polyps in uterus = hysterectomy, gallbladder removal; liver resection

cymbalta, amitza, vivelle patch, fentanyl patch, oxycodone, levisyn, restoril, xanax, phenergan, mobic, fioracett, skelaxin

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