arthritis and durolane injection

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paleis
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   Posted 7/11/2008 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone;
 
I am curious if anyone has had the experience of something I am going through at the moment, I started with pain in both  knees last year and was giving painkillers, pain went away but came back approx. 3 weeks later and from that point on its making my life miserable.  I am under the care of a Orthopedic Specialist who when I saw him the first time this past May 9th, extracted 33 cc of water from my knee and injected me with cortisone, the pain subsided and I thought it was gone however it came back so I saw him again.  He advised that the treatment I received was not working for me and that after taking xrays of my knee (it settled down in 1 knee) it showed I had some arthritis and that he would have to look at alternative solutions for the disabling pain.  The issue here is that I saw a chiropractor and he advised that I showed all the symptoms of a torn meniscus especially since the pain is not really in my knee but on the inside of my leg, I advised the Specialist of that and was told that "pain always travels" and even after I had an MRI done he could not really tell if the meniscus was torn but since I am over 40 (I am 50 and active) they would not consider repairing the meniscus but that it in his opinion is arthritis in the knee.  The alternative treatment the dreaded Durolane injection I received this past tuesday and while I have read the statistics on this injection, I had to do this as another issue in my case is that I gained a lot of weight due to Thyroid/Graves disease that is know under control but put a lot of extra pounds on me that is obviously not helping the knee (each 1 pound you gain puts 6 pounds of stress on your knee).  The Durolane injection was very painfull and sofar I have the same pain in my leg as before the injection.  I would love to hear from anybody who has or is dealing with something similar as I have my doubts about the Durolane injection being of benefit to me.  Hope to hear from anyone.

Ducky
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   Posted 7/13/2008 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Paleis, welcome to the forum.. Unfortunately, I do not have any experience with Durolane injections.. how are you feeling? You mentioned you have Graves Disease, and you said you gained weight? Was that from the Prednisone? The reason why I ask, is 'cause I have Graves Disease, and that is a Hyperactive Thyroid, so you should be LOSING weight.. but I know I was on Prednisone, as well as PTU and Inderal when I was being treated, and the pred can cause weight gain... at any rate, just wanted to welcome you to the forum and see how you were doing..
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paleis
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   Posted 7/13/2008 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Ducky;

Thanks for your very nice e-mail.  I'm sorry to hear you have Graves disease but rest assured its very manageable.  I just started with a little swelling on 1 eye lid and it puzzled every doctor I have seen, my family MD finally diagnosed that I had a thyroid problems and send me off to an Endicrinologist who after ultrasounds etc. found that I had 3 growths on my thyroid (they were preventing the thyroid from normal production), so neither over or under active but he put me on medication (no Prednisone) to start shrinking these nodules while at the same time stop the progression of the Graves disease.  After a couple of ultrasounds and to be on the safe side we decided to used the RAI treatment to let the thyroid die off and I would receive a supplement instead, the Eye Specialist could not operate on my eyes (Graves) to restore it to normal unless the thyroid had settled (basically he could not operate on a moving target), I had the surgery on my eyes last October 15, with grafts in the lower lid and lengthening of the upper lids and that was a great success.  In the interim I am still waiting for the thyroid to die off so I can receive the dosage of supplement that my body needs but its doing it very slowly (had RAI procedure done Feb, 2007) so basically my bodies hormones are confused and my metablism seems to be stagnating which is pretty normal but frustrating.  Have to go for a blood test every month to see if it has died off more and then increase the medication, so my system is always playing catch with the thyroid. Now that I gained this weight my frame is just not big enough to hold the weight and its taking its toll on my knees big time.  Thats it in a nut shell.  Tell me about your Graves please, what and how and have you had eny procedures done, love to hear from you since everyones experience is different. How are YOU doing and managing because its not fun.......could be worse though.

Ciao for now

 


bits
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   Posted 7/20/2008 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi paleis, What is Durolane injection? I do hope you are better and perhaps, you need to get a second opinon from another orthopedic doc. Bless your heart, you shouldn't have to be in pain if something can be done.

paleis
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   Posted 7/20/2008 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Bits;
 
Thanks for your nice email, Durolane is a lubricant that they inject into the affected joints and it really acts as a cussioning for the cartilage that has maybe been worn down, its very costly (approx. $450.00) and usually not covered by any benefit plan since its not really a drug.  Unfortunately the succes rate is only 50/50 but I felt I had to give it a try at the very least.  If it works then it would be good for 6 months giving you some time to try to get rid of some of the weight gained from the nemesis thyroid, if that all comes together I may not need any further treatment on the knee at all but I dont think that the Durolane is working for me to be honest, almost 2 weeks and while the knee is stronger, the pain on the inside of my leg is the same.  Although you have to wait a full 4 weeks to get the maximum and total effect of the Durolane injection. Also if it does work and your weight gain has not changed then you can actually get an injection every 6 months (costly and painfull), I rather loose the weight.  As for your advise to seek a second opinion which I appreciate its as follows, I do trust my specialist completely (one of the best here), have known him for a long time and he works together with a couple of specialist to ensure he provides the correct treatment, he is the head of the Orthopedic Surgery in the hospital were I see him and a collegue of the doctors I work with, so I "hope and pray" that I in the right hands.  Thats my story but enough about me, what brings you to this forum (which I  found accidentially but find it great), love to hear from you.  Hope you  are enjoying the weekend.
 
Ciao for now

bits
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   Posted 7/21/2008 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi palesis, I am here for the input and output from this group. I have many of the same things that others have. RA being the worst. I hope to learn from others and give back my experiences. I need support, from others, dealing with everyday life and the encouragment that goes along with sharing and caring. I found this forum from googling medicial sites. Sounds like I need to be here.

paleis
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   Posted 7/21/2008 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Bits;

Just saw your email coming in, thank you and yes I hear you, sometimes we think we have received all the answers but then you find a site like this and find out that other people have different experiences and that reading these only makes you wiser.  I saw you wrote that you have RA and assume that its active, I was diagnosed with having it in my system but its not active and I hope it stays that way.  Are you in a lot of pain from the RA Bits?, and I can only assume that your suffering from arthritis as well.  Its definately not fun but knowing that others are dealing with the same issues makes it somehow more tolerable I find.  Are you taking supplements to deal with your issues?, I have always been very much into "health supplements" and find they definately help so I motor on hoping that the problem will soon be history (whishfull thinking) but we have to stay positive.  Anyway keep me posted if you like of course, here is to good health.

Cheers

 


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   Posted 7/28/2008 2:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pale & welcome to HW. I tried finding Durolane and came up empty handed,lol. I have had many knees surgeries. In 04 I had a torn meniscus r-knee and partial tear of the ACL l-knee repaired. 10 days post op of the meniscus, I stepped down and caught the toe of my shoe, in a crack in the walkway and twisted this fresh scoped knee. I was walking in to the drs office for a post op visit.I twisted and tore tendons & ligaments to no end. After a few weeks, I then had the Suppartz injections done in the knees, 5 in each knee. My dr wrote the script for the Suppartz and it was filled at the pharmacy, $2,000 total. I then took this to my drs office. I did not think it helped, but in the end it did. It took me 18 months to heal with these 2 knees. Next is replacements. Sure wish you were getting better results than you are. Susie


Natpar
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   Posted 10/16/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I noticed that you said that you were diagnosed with Graves Disease, I had went to the doctor because of swelling in my ankles and legs as well as my eyes seem to have something going on, one seems puffy and the other one seemed droopy and she decided to do my blood work, and it came back with low TSH, was sent to a specialist and he said Graves Disease. They did more blood work and said that it came back showing my hemoglobin and hemocrit was elevated and wanted to test my B12 and Folate. Did that and came back with the B12 at 276 and folate was fine, said that even though the B12 was within the normal range it was on the low side of it, so they want me to start taking B12 daily 1000mg. When I saw the specialist for the first time he did start me on meds for my thyroid. But I am not sure if there is something else going on. Any suggestions or comments on where to go from here? I guess I am just trying to figure out if this is all one disease or if they are just treating each symptom. I am sorry if I am posting this in the wrong area, but when I looked up the symptoms this was the only thing that came up.

Natalie

Ducky
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   Posted 10/20/2008 11:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Natalie.. are you being seen by an endocrinologist for treatment of your thyroid? What other symptoms are you having? hang in there, I'd love to hear more from you..
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tennisaholic
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   Posted 10/31/2008 10:57 AM (GMT -6)   

This is a very nice forum.

I have had left knee problems since Junior High School.  I recently had my fourth surgery and become a candidate for suppartz.   My right knee is strong and healthy 38 years old and my left knee is very unhealthy 55:)  My doctor recommended two types of injections. The first is Synvic and the second is Hyalgan.  Does anyone have any experience with either of these? My doctor's office also suggested that I buy them from distributors outside the US such as Canada or Turkey? 

Thank you.

 


Judy2
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   Posted 10/31/2008 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I've had three rounds of Hyalgan into my basically destroyed right knee. I need a replacement, but am putting it off. The Hyalgan has allowed me to live pain-free for the most part for the past four years, although I have also been careful not to put undue stress on the knee. I was in an accident years ago and had surgery to repair my knee. Now I have bone-on-bone (no cartilage at all on the medial aspect), torn ACL, bursitis and traumatic arthritis.

I had really good experience with the Hyalgan. I didn't find the injections terribly painful. My ortho injected Lidocaine first, that stung a bit but numbed it so I didn't even feel the Hyalgan. My knee was pain-free immediately, and each series lasted about 12-18 months. My insurance covered it all except for the copay for the office visit.


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boater64
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   Posted 3/21/2010 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
I have pain in both knees which my doctors tell me is caused by osteoarthritis , I had the durolane injection at $499.00 my health insurance did not pay for the cost but I just wanted to get rid of the pain and stiffness so I gave it a try . It did not cause me any pain
before or after the injection but it also did not work for my knee pain , it did not help at all. have anyone tried the synvisc injection ,is this any different then durolane .I have now tried cortisone  injections and for the last three months I have being pain free. I know this won,t last much longer Is there anything I can try before I have a knee replacment which the Droctor says is comeing.
boater64

Anngel
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   Posted 2/5/2011 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   

Dear friend,

I too, have Graves Disease. I too, have torn the meniscus in my knee. I was so, so discouraged that in my attempts to get healthier, by exercise and due to an accident, I had developed a knee problem (torn ACL, side ligament, torn meniscus, chipped knee cap). My orthopedic surgeon's response was "you're old, you don't really need the ACL anyway... so I suffered for years with an unstable knee, unable to get fit!!

Finally, I had excrutiating pain in my knee. I went back to the same surgeon who decided now he couldn't operate on me since I wasn't happy that he didn't fix the knee the first time. UG! And he charged me!! It NEVER occured to me to get a second opinion!:) Someone at work gave me the name of a different doctor. He saw my knee, the x-rays, and the MRI. He scheduled the arthroscopic surgery for the next week!! It took only 2 hours start to finish... and within 2 weeks, my knee was usable again. I now have my knee back! Unfortunately, the extra strain on my other knee caused the other meniscus to tear and I will go in to have that fixed immediately.

Go Find Another Surgeon!! One that only does knees! It will make all the difference. I, too, am going through the process to stablization from Hyper thyroid to hypothyroid... and thus far have not gained one ounce. I don't eat when I am not hungry... I do what exercise I can... my hands, face, and feet still look swollen... but I am now on the road to recovery.

Go get a second opinion!! Go get the surgery... You won't regret it :)

Anngel


barrie
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   Posted 11/29/2011 10:34 AM (GMT -6)   
I just received the durolane injection in my right knee.  I have RA as well as Osteoarthritis in this knee and I could hardly walk-sit-stand without my husband's assistance.  The injection was not very painful at all-about the same as a cortisone shot-and not at all what I expected. The knee is very stiff now but the pain is reduced considerably so I am thrilled.  It was very expensive but definitely worth it if it continues to relieve the pain.  I would strongly recommend this shot if you're ready but still waiting for knee replacement.

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   Posted 1/18/2012 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there folks Just a line about the injection Durolane. Got 1 for my right knee just before christmas. Knee was giving me alot of pain up to this point for about a year. Got the injection which did hurt when it went in!!!!! Walked out of the Doctor's office in more pain, then when i went in. But now almost 4 weeks later alot of the pain is gone and alot better movement in the knee!!!!!! It was well worth it.

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   Posted 1/19/2012 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Expressway,
nice to meet you, hope that injection continues to help you...this is an older thread and
I don't know if some of the people who started it are around...but it would be nice
if you could introduce yourself and start a newer thread....Do you have RA as well???
Many well wishes to you and again I hope the injection keeps helping you...
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ceanthus
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   Posted 10/7/2012 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello all. I had my first Durolane injection 2 weeks ago. I had it on National health, waited 8 weeks for my consultation and injection, but it was worth every minute wait.
my aunt ,who is 81yrs had had a similar one at the beginning of the year, and I saw the difference in her mobility, so I was eager to have it.
I had x ray, consultation and then offered injection all in 2 hours.
I had a local anaesthetic injection, cortozone injection, and then the Durolane injection, and I felt nothing. didn't know they had finished.
had 2 days of aching, but no pain. since then, after a week I could walk upstairs properly for the first time in months; I can get in and out of the car ok; I'm not aware of discomfort the last few days around the house.
It has been just over 2 weeks and I feel a massive difference.
but it hasn't helped yet when I try to walk more than 10 mins. my limp I started with about 9 months ago comes back still, and I just have to keep stopping and getting my strength to walk back.
I was told it could be 2-6 weeks before all advantage is felt, so am hopeful.
Received my next appointment for 3 months time to see how I am.
hope this encourages people to feel confident if offered durolane.
 

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   Posted 4/11/2013 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I wish I could get mine on the NHS! I am on a tiny income so paying almost £600 each six months is crippling in itself.
But what can I say about Durolane? I am 58 and have been told by my surgeon that my left knee joint is so bad after so many failed operations in the past ( plus the removal of a patella) that a replacement is just too risky.
Then he told me about his trials with Durolane and how he believed it could really benefit me.
I did not believe him for a minute.Nothing was going to help ease my awful pain and mobility problems with that knee.
I was so wrong! My quality off life soared. I could climb stairs and even had a dance with my husband. More importantly I slept well for six pain free months before it wore off. Now I have just had my second jab.The injection point was sore for almost two days (I had a local anasthetic so the actual injection was almost pain free).

I have heard of folk through sites like this being in agony at the time of injection and not being given pain relief. To this case I would say ditch your doctor and only go to a qualified practionior who his highly familiar with this product and its correct administration.

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   Posted 4/12/2014 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone. I have just had a Durolane Injection ( last thursday) and I have to agree with others that it was the most painful of the injections I have had...to the point that I couldnt actually lift my leg up off the bed after it, let alone stand on it! I finally managed to get going on it after the nurse had to dress me as I couldnt bend the knee AT ALL ! The next morning (after continuing horrendous pain that day and night) I couldnt move at all on it. I cried in pain both days.
Am now a week and 2 days on from it, and the pain is still the same, actually a bit worse if Im honest ! I rang back to the hospital yesterday and they told me it takes 2 weeks before I will see any improvement (if I am to get any that is..doesnt always work for everyone they said).
So I am still in a great deal of pain and got another few days to go of it until I HOPEFULLY see some results from it? We will see
Vicky from Huddersfield xx
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