I see you are thinking the gum prob. may be linked to the Humira mmmmmmmmmm
In any case, I would strongly suggest that you see a good rheumy as things like bleeding gums are what they consider a problem.
I do recall that when I had the humira, I ended up going to the dentist with such pain I couldn't chew.The dentist told me that my molar (its top partner removed some 25 years ago) had suddenly moved and forced all my teeth to be out of alignment. She said it was looking for its partner!!!
Anyway, this settled down and I again had the same sensation 4 days after the next injection- but not as severe.
I ended up abandoning hurmira due to the angry rashes I got at the injection site.
That is why I am now on MabThera Infusions and going great guns as far as strength and mobility are concerned. I do have some -'s, but the +'s far out weigh them.
It is all a matter of trial and error
So talk to your Rheumy
Ps. I have little bruises on me due to the pregnosone (10mg daily)
Are you taking pregnosone?
I'm Keeping close watch for any side effects. If the gum thing gets worse or the bruises will definately call the doctor. I plan to call before my next dental cleaning anyway to see if I should have an antibiotic as I bleed when she cleans my teeth. With the Enbrel I got the reaction from the shots within two weeks and she switched me over to the Humira. Didn't have any problem with the first shot, except for a bruise at the injection site. Gave myself the second injection yesterday.
It feels like playing Russian Roulette trying these drugs. It's really scary but so is the thought of being crippled. I've never head of MabThera infusions. Is that like Remicade infusions?
I'll let you know how it goes.
thanks for the info and have a great day.
Hey isn't it great that if something isn't working you get the next thing
and my local GP says the later ones are the better!!!
So yep, watch those side effects and if they are too much, you get the gold!!
Lots of RA sufferer's haven't heard of MabThera.
It is not Remicade. which is the trade name for Infliximab and is similar to Enbrel and Humira in the way that it concentrates on the TNF Factor.
MabThera it is the latest wizz bang thing going on here for those who have made it to the end of what's available (due to negative reactions).
I did hear of someone using Rituxan in France on another post a couple of mths ago.
I did some research by googling MabThera and this is what I found:
MabThera is Rituximab. It is also traded under the name Rituxan.
It is a selective B cell therapy, and a monoclonal antibody.
It was initially used for non-Hodgkin Lymphona (Blood Cancer) where to date they have treated 7 million cancer patients over the past 7 years.
For RA the infusion takes 5-6 hrs. This is repeated in 15 days and then again in 6mths time or a yr. depending on need.
I have found lots less swelling, less pain, more strength, mobility while on it.
The government here covers the cost of $2 500 each injection. But i didn't realise my health fund expected me to pay $500 to sit in a chair in hospital with a nurse monitoring me. i have heard of patients getting their infusions in the doctors clinic for nothing
You mentioned a bruise at the injection site. This was probably from the way it was injected and nothing to do with the Humira. So you inject it yourself!! I couldn't do that and had my local doctor do it for me.( I like being taking care of and babied when it comes to this )
Anyway, all the best with the Humira, cause from my short experience it is just as good as MabThera - you go girl!!!
l the best
P.S. I just found some info that may interest you.
They are presenty trialing atacicept in Canada and the USA
This drug targets the B cells as does my drug MabThera (rituximab)
Jusy google atacicept
Post Edited (Kangaroo) : 9/3/2008 6:45:11 AM (GMT-6)
Sounds like the bleeding is only minor, that's good news.
Still, I would report it to your rheumy, so he can watch out for you and relieve you of wondering if it should be watched.
I been thinking how to get information about "Humira and side effects, bleeding gums"
as I have tossed the info.sheet (aren't they long)!!
So I had the idea to "google" these words and I came up with lots of info.
To see this info. Donna just click this link-
I read-" bleeding gums need to be reported right away".
so I would be doing just that and bringing to the doctor's attention the article from the web address that I have given you.
Best to have professional support at times like this as they know just what to look for.
As you say, it only looks minor, but let your rheumy in on it or he will feel neglected and put out. If you can't get in contact with your Rheumy, tell your local doctor, and explain bleeding gums are on the side effects to be reported.
God bless, and let my know how you get on
Best to get onto these things when they are minor and have the rhemy look after you.
Post Edited (Kangaroo) : 9/5/2008 9:05:51 AM (GMT-6)
Curious - what part of the country you are in that you haven't had Summer yet? Today has begun to turn out beautiful here. The storm must have cleared the air out cause it's dry and sunny with no humidity. I think it's supposed to reach 80 degrees today.
I started having trouble with my gums and my eyes after I was diagnosed with arthritis and before I started on any of the drugs. I guess it's common to have these problems when you have arthritis. I've had Iritis several times in both eyes. It's an inflammation of the Iris of the eye and can be quite serious if not treated. Treatment is steroid eye drops, starting a drop every hour then weaning down to one drop a day till it's over. A real pain in the neck. I can always tell when it's back cause I get pain in my eye for a few days along with a headache. Sometimes a slight discharge from the eye but not always.
My Dad had gum disease also and ended up losing his teeth.It was a shame cause he never got cavities and had good teeth but the gum disease caused them all to loosen up. He had terrible psoriasis. So far I haven't had a problem with it except for one bout of pustular psoriasis on the bottoms of my feet and palms of my hands. Soon after that is when I started with the arthritis. Strange the things we can get, isn't it?
Thanks for chatting with me.
Thanks for sharing your horror story, and dont't we have many. You made me think..... a skin problem I had as a child on the balls of my feet may have been related to rheumatiod that came out with vengence overnight 11 yrs. ago. mmmmmmmmm the thick layers of skin drying out and peeling off, and bleeding..................
Enough of all that gore, not a good place to be. Let's think of something more pleasant!
So you are puzzled as to how I can be entering spring when you are approaching fall (we call it autumn). and there is more........................................................ When you are in day, I am in night, when you are ending Sunday, I am beginning Monday. So where am I??? Have you heard of Australia?? Well that is where I am. If you look at a map of the world you will find it as a large lonely land mass in the middle of the Pacific Ocean south of the equator.I have lived here all my life and like yourself, very proud of my country. I've seen a bit of the country south , east and west, Perth, Brisbane(where my son Matt lives) Melbourne, beautiful Tasmania (where we went for our honeymoon all those years ago) and Adelaide. I am yet to see the wild country in the centre at Alice Springs and around Darwin to the north. Australia is a large land mass covering 4 time zones and a small population of 22 millon that mainly live on the coast, cause the middle is dry and arid desert.
I live on the east of Australia, just below the bulge in Sydney. I love the coast with its sandy beaches and beautiful waves........this is where I go in my mind when I am desperate to get away from the dental procedures.
Talking about waves, we find it hilarious that our daughter liz had to go to the beach in England (remember I said she is in London) before she gave surfing on a long board a go. But then again, small surf is the way to start. LOL We do miss her.
Till next we meet
God Bless you Donna
I hear that Australia is a beautiful country. Actually my older brother's best friend married a girl from there. Both my brother and his friend have passed away now. I lost my brother two years ago. He was only 63. His wife and children moved to Vermont many years ago. It's about a 3 hour drive to where my sister in law lives now and another half hour to where her kids are. I talk to my sister in law about every other day and we send daily emails. Am hoping to get up there before Winter. It's beautiful there in the Fall when the leaves are turning. She's planning on a trip down here some time next month for a week or two also.
It's was an absolutely beautiful day here yesterday. My husband and I went to a local pond with my best friend and her husband. The guys brought their fishing poles and we just lounged in the sun. It was very relaxing.
This morning I have to go to my church. I am one of the volunteers to count the Sunday offerings and do it a couple of Mondays a month. My husband is working nights and it's really made for a miserable Summer. He gets home in the morning when I'm getting up. He'll start work tonight at 8 pm and will get home around 6 tomorrow morning. He's hoping to retire in another month or so. He'll be able to get his health insurance through Medicare next year but I still have a ways before I can get it so will have to find some kind of insurance for myself after next year. Medical care is so expensive here in the USA.
Well - glad to be getting to know you and hope you'll keep in touch.
Have a wonderful day - I'll say a little extra prayer for you today at Mass
Hi there Donna
It's great to get a reply from you
I look at the post we are under Bleeding Gums"nice to change the subject.
May be we should meet under "enjoying ourselves" LOL
Your description of the autumn leaves, the fishing, magic! I just want to be there too!!
mmmmmmmmmm so relaxing
And we should get out and enjoy nature, it is so revitilising.
My dad use to do night work. It isn't good for any relationship.I remember always having to be quiet because he was sleeping, but I also recall being very noisy fighting with my sisters (was dad not there at those times???)
Thanks Donna for the offer of a prayer for me, that is very kind of you.
I can pray for you too, ok!
I am wondering what happened to Judith who began this post.
I will write to her now
God be with you Donna and soak up that wonderful sun!!
Post Edited (Kangaroo) : 9/8/2008 6:00:47 AM (GMT-6)
wanting to catch up with you.
How are you going??
Please let me know, ok? It's been a while. I hope you are getting on top of things.
What was the results of your blood works??
I do hope to meet you again