Should I be able to get an "other" infection on prednisone + motrin?

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_Christina
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   Posted 2/6/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I am taking 10mg of prednisone, 800mg of MO, 25mg of Methotrexate, 200mg of Plaqunil, as well as other medications for Bipolar Disorder.  I have been taking the Methotrexate for 9 months, and anywhere form 40-10mg of Prednisone through that time. 
I have been basicaly healthy through this time, "just" joint pain that comes back and fades back and ofrth with the medicine levels.  Now I have what feels like an infection inside my left breast.  It feels like when I had a blocked and infected milk duct inside my breast.  (mastitis)  The breast is hot, sore all the time, but painfull when touched or jossled.  I'm sure that there is an infection, but how can that happen when I'm taking medicine that blocks inflamation?

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   Posted 2/7/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
If I'm not mistaken, MTX can lower the white blood count which in turn makes you more prone to infections. Add in pred and it lowers it even more. I hope you plan on seeing the doctor soon?
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TayIsa
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   Posted 2/8/2009 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Please go see a doctor soon! Pain as you have described in your breast is not something that should go un-treated.
I know of ladies that ignore "just a little pain" and have ended up with breast cancer and had to have their breast removed sad    Would you rather go and get treatment now? or wait until what ever it is spreads and makes you sicker.  I hope for your sake it IS just an infection, and not something much worse such as cancer.
Take care.  Don't wait nono   please go to the doctor.

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   Posted 2/9/2009 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Medicines that control inflamation, like Motrin, don't prevent infections. Steroids like prednisone and Methotrexate (MTX) inhibit the bodies ability to fight an infection. MTX in particular leaves you vulnerable to infections. When I was on MTX I had a constant battle with yeast infections (yes, men can get yeast infections). I also had occasional problems with fungal infections. Your dose of MTX (25 mg, I assume once per week) is quite strong. There is a real risk that what would have been a minor infection if your immunse system was not surpressed could become a major problem. So I aggree with others that you should see a doctor pronto.
 
On an ongoing basis, if your doctor has ordered regular blood tests, you should make sure and do them. They allow your doc to monitor blood counts, inflamation markers, and make sure your liver is tolerating all these meds.
 
Hope your feeling better soon!
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_Christina
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   Posted 2/18/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -7)   
It's been forever since I have been back to the site.  The pain in my breast has improved over time.  The swelling has disappeared, redness has gone away - I keep expecting it to go away and am surprised when I notice the spot again.  I did the typical thing for a woman who is tired of going to doctors - I've ignored it.    With your thoughts I will make an appointment tomorrow. 
 
(I understand I am a BAD Patient.  I always have been.  I'm at least better than I used to be.  I hate going to the doctor for things other than regularly scheduled visits.  I always feel like I'm making a bigger deal than I should.)
 
The Rheumatologist has started taking me down on the prednisone (1mg every 2 weeks) and I am 2 days into it.  Today I am on full pain meds for every joint in my body and I have a screaming headache.  My head doesn't even pound- it's just a constant drilling.  I hope it goes away soon as I get used to the new dosage.  The point is to get off the prednisone completely. I've gotten a "moon face" from the dosage I've been on so long.  I'm tired of being on the prednisone, but I really am afraid of what may happen.  If I get worse again she says I will be taken off the Plaqunil and another drug added to the MTX.  She stated it as if she expects it to happen.
 
I will make the appointment for tomorrow - now I just have to figure out which doctor to call.
 
Chrisitna

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   Posted 2/22/2009 11:30 PM (GMT -7)   

 

Hi Cristina,

It's been 5 days since you were going to the doctor,

let us know how you are going

God Bless


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_Christina
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   Posted 2/24/2009 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   

I go into the dr today at 3:30.  I feel like an idiot because the swelling, redness, and warmth are all gone.  The left breast is slightly more sensitive when touched, but not by much.  I feel like I am about to go pay $15 to show my breast to a male Dr for nothing.  I don't feel a lump, just an area that is slightly sore when pressed.  My initial reaction?  Don't press it.  Don't bother it and it won't bother you.  I'll update when I get back. 

(I caught a cold, so I have hot/cold flashes, extreme fatigue, congestion in face and chest, runny nose, cough.  With the MTX and Prednisone I assume he might freak over that too.)


Kangaroo
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   Posted 2/25/2009 4:40 AM (GMT -7)   
 
So Christina,
How did you get on at the doctor's yesterday? smurf
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   Posted 2/25/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Christina, I'm new to HealingWell and decided to check out the Arthritis group. It sounds like your immune system is in trouble and I hope the "cold" won't keep you away from the computer for long. Like Debbie, I'm wondering how your doctor's appointment went yesterday.

Like I said, I'm new to the group and I don't know who knows 'what' or 'how much' anyone knows about Arthritis. I'm far from an expert although I've had it most of my life. I just want to share a few simple things that I've learned through the years - not necessarily from a doctor, but sometimes, Or sometimes from articles and others sharing their info, plus learning by experience. I'm not currently on any pain killers. (I endure) If the pain gets worse than I can handle - I will take something. I've even been on prednisone and had cortisone shots in the past, but prefer to avoid those resources now. I didn't like the side effects. (My preference).

Some things I'm doing now to prevent arthritis from worsening is 1/I'm taking lots vitamins and minerals to improve my immune system (with suggestions from my doctor on what to take). 2/ I stay away from members of the 'nightshade' family of foods - peppers, tomatoes, and egg plant. 3/ I completely avoid citrus fruits. I can feel their effects immediately in my hand and toe joints. 4/ I try to stay warm, especially my feet.

Arthritis is said to be an allergy disease. I just had new allergy testing done, and am allergic to too many things. So, 5/ I'm in the process of dealing with those allergies, and hopefully, the arthritis will get better as I rid my environment of things I'm allergic to. I've done this in the past and it's helped. I could go on and on, but I'm taking up space.

As you can tell, I haven't found the magic solution yet, but I do believe in hope. Get better soon.

TayIsa
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   Posted 2/25/2009 7:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Was just reading your posts and saw that you made an appointment to see your doctor.  Was wondering how it went? Please post as soon as possible and let us know.  Hope all is well. take care, TayIsa

_Christina
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   Posted 2/25/2009 9:37 PM (GMT -7)   

 

The Dr visit did not produce anything productive.  As I had said before much of the tenderness has gone away along with all of the swelling, redness, and warmth.  The Dr did a breast exam (yuck! MALE DR alert) and said that I was OK for the "watch and wait" option. If I still have a sore spot in a month I go in for a mamogram. 

I mentioned that I have this cold, but since the rest of the family also has had a cold this week it's to be expected.  Since I am already coughing up some of the crap that was sitting on me yesterday- I think I'll be OK.  I feel more sore- probably because I am laying around.

Going to bed now- I've been sleeping so much the last 3 days.

 


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   Posted 2/26/2009 4:55 AM (GMT -7)   

 

 

Christina, what are we going to do with you?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the way you are dealing with this. confused

You are such a card!!

I do hope all goes well. It is so good  it miraculously went away. Shame there is that spot though. We want to see it completely gone, not an iota by the March 20 smilewinkgrin

Keep us posted


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   Posted 2/26/2009 5:11 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Hi there Wendy
 
Welcome to the forum.
I too have had lots of success with diet. I was very strict there for 2 years and I found it interesting that after a time you can pin point which foods do what.
I should get back to it. i have been lenient of late because I find with the new drug I am on (Mabthera) I can have most foods without too much of a bad response. I will have to get back on to it and go back to exercise because the effects of the lack of these is starting to show.
 
I was diagnosed with lots and lots of allleries with a vada machine many years ago and this kicked off a diet of virtually rice, veges and meat. That meant no dairy, no wheat, no yeast. no artificial colours and flavours, no fruit(maybe an apple) rolleyes
 
Hope to catch you around the tracks
 
Thanks for sharing 
DebbieLou


Wendy Dora
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   Posted 2/26/2009 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Debbie and All,

This diet thing, I've decided, is really, really important, and a person would think I'd learn - eventually. Why do we slack off and hurt ourselves over and over again? I'm a slow learner, I guess. (I'd put a smiley icon here, but the choices aren't showing on screen now.) Several years ago, I had asthma quite bad - taking meds and using inhalers a lot. I got to the point where all I could eat was plain baked potatoes, apples, and drink distilled water. If I ate anything else, I couldn't breathe, so that kept me on the straight and narrow. I was thankful for potatoes and apples. After awhile, my body ridded itself of the offending anti-bodies, and I could slowly add more foods to my diet. It can be hard to stay on such a restricted diet, unless you immediately suffer by not following the rules.

I've noticed, like you, that a person can learn which foods cause what symptoms. Even with environmental allergies, we can learn 'what does what'. Sometimes, though, our bodies can mask symptoms so that we don't realize we are allergic to things. One thing that will clue us in to a possible allergy is if we crave something, or 'make sure' certain things are in our diet everyday. As long as we eat it regularly, we won't show any noticeable symptoms. By avoiding it for at least 5 days, and then eating it again, we will get a reaction of some kind, if we are allergic to it.

Oh, on the list of foods that are horrendous to a person with arthritis: Sugar. (No wonder, I hurt all over.)

Wish I could exercise. It causes too much irritation to my joints. There are a few very simple ones I can do like sit on the big ball and move side to side. Not much work to it. Does that really count as exercise? ha ha. I do have to move about as much as I can. Walking/standing hurts my back, so I do a dab of work and then sit for awhile, moving on through the day like that. I don't get much done, but everything I do, makes a good difference. You should see the house if I don't do anything. :o)

Well, I had some good news from the doctor. He took me off PTU (for hyper-thyroid) . I had been on it about 10 years. I take only 3 RX's now - potassium, hydraclorithiazine, and Prozac. I was recently diagnosed with a mutant gene, the MTHFR copy C677T, and I'm working on overcoming long term deficiencies of that problem. It's a fairly recent discovery that tends to run in families. I'll talk more about it another day since I think it may be good info that a lot of you can put to use. I'm thinking I can get off Prozac in a few months, after following the new regimen from my doctor. I'm taking a minimum dose now, but I definitely don't want to deal with any panic attacks again. They are much worse than arthritis.

Debbie, What is a Vada Machine and how does it work?

Appreciate your comments.

Christina, please keep us posted. Praying the sore spot will continue to go away, and that you'll be feeling much better soon.

Kangaroo
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   Posted 2/26/2009 6:28 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Wendy

I will keep it brief- my 2 previous attempts got chewed up on ciber space. confused

It is actually a vega machine, you can read about it on:

http://allergypreventionclinic.com/Allergy_Testing.htm

Deep Water Aerobics is a great way to exercise and because you wear bouyancy belts it is OK for non swimmers. Catch a sample of the action on:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9211187070578216338&hl=en

I clicked on this site and couldn't see the video. I then tried physically typing in the above address( I know it's an effort but hey it's worth it)  smurf



DebbieLou

Post Edited (Kangaroo) : 2/26/2009 6:44:22 PM (GMT-7)


Wendy Dora
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   Posted 2/26/2009 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for those links. I've had experience with the vega system. I just didn't know what it was called. smilewinkgrin This last round of allergy tests which I had done was the scratch type., and it was just for environmental things - mostly what I have no control over - trees, grass, etc. I liked the Vega testing, however, done by a different doctor. I'm wanting food allergy tests, so maybe I'll check with the other doctor. I had severe reactions to all 70 items they 'scratched' me for. My right arm was one huge hive. Left arm had its' problems but not as bad as the right one. The Vega way is not invasive, for sure.

I might be able to do the water aerobics. I hadn't thought about that. I'll check around to see if they're done in our area, and they probably are. I can't do regular aerobics, or most of the exercises at physical therapy. Like I said, I do fine on the big round ball. . . just my speed, but the water aerobics look fun and not stressful.

Thanks bunches.

Kangaroo
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   Posted 2/26/2009 9:35 PM (GMT -7)   

 

Did you know that you can use the vega from a saliva sample. I can get 100 allegies done for under $100

By the way, it wasn't me in the water video LOL.

My instructor, Margaret is way up there with knowing the ins and outs of Deep Water.

Here is a list of her things your should keep in mind to get the best:

Don't push yourself, stop if there is pain(we know to ignore this other wise we would do nothing, hee hee)

Do it slow to start and build up speed over the weeks

Start with 20min, 3x week and increase to 45mins

Never point your toes(as they do in the video) to avoid cramps

Think of posture all the time- Hips forward, shoulders back, stomach to the backbone, buttocks tight, pelvic floor up tight(oops that's gone)

I should really get back into it

All the best 


DebbieLou

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