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glouise
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   Posted 5/25/2005 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,
Not sure if this was the correct place to post, but since arthritis is sort of similar ... or, maybe you could lead me to another location?

What is the best way to curb costochondritis pain. There is no more severe pain, but a nagging ache in the second or third left ribs (originally the pain was more severe in my sternum, but that is gone now). How do I get this to go away. I do not take NSAIDS or other anti-inflammatories. I have had the sudden pain before and I have anxiety, which makes this worse. I just have never had the pain linger longer than 2 days.

I am 26-year old female who is very active and a former discus and hammer thrower, and shot putter. I am not overweight and jog and walk regularly. I think I may have triggered this bout this time by walking with a heavy backpack or coughing roughly and then went surf fishing, which may have further aggravated it. Before this one, the last time I triggered this was hanging a plant from the ceiling in my house. The pain hit me in the same spot when I lifted my left arm.

Thanks.

GL

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   Posted 5/26/2005 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
glouise, welcome to the forum. Could you have pulled a ligament in one of the intercostal spaces? I remember after having a bad cold and then doing something with a lot of twisting I hurt to breath for quite a few days. The pain was from in between my ribs. Over the course of the next few years everytime I got a cold or did too much heavy lifting I would get the pain back in the same spot. The only thing that I could do to help the pain was to wrap my chest and rest. Hard to do when you have to work but since you have to breath there is no way to really rest the area and allow for healing. It takes time. Sometimes a short course of anti-inflammatories or ASA is in order. Talk to your Dr. and get some tests done to see what is really going on. Don't be afraid to fight for what you feel is right.
Hope someone else comes along with something similar that can help you find some answers. Keep in touch.
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glouise
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   Posted 5/26/2005 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Oreo.

I have been using a hot water bottle and the pain seems to be subsiding even without inflammatory medications. I may have pulled a ligament or something. That may explain the back and shoulder pain too. It could even be a pinched nerve from coughing or something. Thanks for your input and advice.

erin.K
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   Posted 5/26/2005 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
yikes...the chostochondritis i deal with is outstanding! debilitating at some points where i can't take a breath in or talk even. a pulmonologist caught onto it before the rheumy. i use menthol, heat pad, darvocet and an advil and wait it out in silence. when it's very bad it takes about a complete day for it to be tolerable. so bad i can't wear a bra or even touch the chest area at all. it's such a nagging painful and torturous thing to go through.
wish you well with it
any good tips let me know!
sincerely,
erin

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   Posted 5/30/2005 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hope it contunues to get better for you louise. Nothing worse then having it hurt to do something as critical to life as breathing. Keep in touch. It's great to have you in the forum.
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   Posted 6/5/2005 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   

This caught my eye and I just wanted to let you know that on the Fibromyalgia board (really not trying to steal your member!!! lol) there is a great thread about Costo.  I have it and have gleemed a lot of helpful info from others who have it as well through this thread.

Sincerely,

Beth

Hope you get to feeling better soon!

 


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bonwagner
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   Posted 6/8/2005 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
This is the first time i have ever responded to a forum before.  I looked in the fibro. forum and couldn't find anything about costachondritis. 
 
The doctors say that i have costachondritis, they have never tested me all they have done is take Xrays.  I have had this problem for 15-20 years.  Each time i get it is is worse and last longer. 
 
I am in my 4th week with this pain and i just can seem to accept the answers the doctors tell me.  They tell me there is nothing they can do but give me medicines.  They put me on Elavil and i was a walking zombie with lots of pain.  I don't sleep at night, like somewhere else i read i can't even wear a bra.  I am miserable.  My pain is just under my left breast, i have a little swelling there, the middle of my ribs (sterum?) is not painful, i can feel something pop in that area at least 20 times a day. 
 
Does anybody out there have the same symptoms and have they been told the same thing by doctors?
 
 

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   Posted 6/8/2005 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   

Saw your question and thought I would post the link to the fibro thread:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=211146&g=255971#m255971

Welcome to the forum bonwagner!



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erin.K
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   Posted 6/8/2005 5:39 PM (GMT -7)   
oh no! i too hate that snapping popping chest noises. also, i hate that there is nothing that makes it totally goes away. i'm up in pain too many nites because can not get comfy from the chest pain. the worst is when i can't get a deep enough breath in. this stinks. i use menthol rub and then heat and also lidoderm patches and try not to move around too much or talk. with swollen excrutiating knee pain now...so i'm grateful the ribs and all are not acting up today. easier to take a few bad areas rather than them all. hoping for better days. a little aggrevated now...marching my butt up to the rheumy tomorrow if these knees aren't better. going on 5 days and not getting better. i don't see how anyone can function like this without being able to walk around for more than 5 minutes.
here's to a better tomorrow
erin

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   Posted 6/15/2005 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys, what's with stealing my members? LOL, LOL. The thing I like about HW is that so many of the diseases are linked that we can all share info and help each other. Do not be afraid to post info here or the point the way to answers. Thanks for taking care of art's. I appreciate it.
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   Posted 6/16/2005 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
You would almost think I would get a commission. :-)
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erin.K
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   Posted 6/16/2005 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
are there finder's fees involved? :) LOL i'm in too!
about the chondritis: it's sad that there is no cure, just some stuff to help alleviate it or make it bearable. but i would say that enbrel has helped with the inflammation in that area somewhat. bonwagner do you have RA or autoimmune problems?
i know how you must be feeling. it's difficult.
erin

maura
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   Posted 6/19/2005 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there - Yes I know about costochondritis. It certainly is miserable and there are many good reputable sites on the subject - Medical sites that is. The Mayo Clinic has a good explanation as does the Johns Hopkins site where it explains that it is an inflammation between the ribs, often mimicing a heart attack and therefore should be checked out each time to make sure of the diagnosis.

By process of elimination, because I react badly to most medications, I found a couple of ways to at least relieve the pain for the moment. First of all when sitting or lying, I make sure to place a pillow under my left armpit. This will perhaps spread the ribs enough to relieve the worst of the pain.

Secondly, I have a little pottery ball that I keep in the refrigerator, and use it to roll gently up and down my sternum (breast bone) during an extreme attack. For some reason, it seems to ease things ( just a bit, but even that is a blessing). Ive even used a glass of ice water to roll back and forth across the sternum.

Hope you all have some relief soon, I really do - Maura


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   Posted 6/23/2005 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
MAURA!!! YOU ARE GENIUS!!! i had such terrible costo chest pain today that i could not breath fully and talk and high dose pain relievers were just about helping.....but, i remembered what you had mentioned about spreading the ribs apart with the pillow under the arms....and boy WHAT A DIFFERENCE. i truly believe it helped! thank you. as i think anatomically about it... it makes a lot of sense in how the cartilage and joints and bones lay when you position that way. i did it while lying down cause i can't be upright too long. and also for some reason....i had a lot of ice cream and that strangely felt very nice as well! cooled the chest inside.
thanks again so so much, i will definitely suggest that to others. good thinking maura. you're the best!

maura
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   Posted 6/24/2005 3:47 AM (GMT -7)   
You are most welcome Erin. Glad it helped if even for a little bit.

You know how little folks sometimes have thier 'blankie' - well I have my pillow and my chilly ball.

As I think of more stuff that I automatically do for pain, Id be happy to share.
Hugs Maura


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   Posted 6/24/2005 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
My favorite is a pillow under my knees. Can't fall asleep without it. My back hurts and feels tight if I lay in bed without my bod in correct anatomical position. That includes sleeping on my side. I wake up when I turnover just so I can postion the pillow between my knees. Makes for a very restless night but atleast I very rarely wake up with my back really tight. Kind of nice.
Talk to you guys later.
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amartin
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   Posted 6/24/2005 1:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I just found this site and I can't wait to try the pillow under the arm next time I get the acute pain. This is day 11 of what I can only guess is costochondritis pain. I have gone to the ER twice with miserable chest pain, shortness of breath, etc. All the cardio workup came out fine. Then they said it was "anxiety". Yes, when the pain comes on suddenly and lasts for 15 minutes or more, I do experience a lot of anxiety (palms and feet sweaty, shortness of breath, shallow breathing, panic), but the pain always comes before the panic attack. They gave me motrin and valium but it is not helping. I still get an average of 3 daily bouts of pain where I can't sit up, can't lay down, can't breath in deeply, and I just have to wait it out. When the pain finally passes, I shake or shiver.

I have seen 5 doctors and finally someone asked me whether I had perhaps strained something? Hmmm could it have been the 40 lb horse saddle that I lifted two weeks ago to place on a tall horse? Quite possibly, but since I am female, and young, and have no cardiac history, the first thing everyone says I have is "anxiety". Now I am on a constant round of motrin and valium (?) and going to the acupuncturist. I have found that heat aggravates the pain, cold helps a little, there is mild pain all day long, and the acute attacks are severe. Is there a way to know for sure if its muscular? I am tired of the pain and I am getting very depressed about the thought of having to live with this pain for weeks (how long to heal?)
thanks.

maura
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   Posted 6/24/2005 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Most rheumatologists are very knowledgeable regarding costochondritis and if you look it up on reliable sites like the Mayo clinic or the Johns Hopkins Hospital there are good explanations on what it is, the duration of pain and certain treatments.
Please dont just put it down to anxiety, as you may be missing some help out there.
Best of luck - Maura


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   Posted 6/27/2005 1:03 PM (GMT -7)   
confused  dear Amartin,
what is going on?  you say it is about 3 bouts all day long of pain....but then it gets to an acute point that is more severe with hard time breathing, moving...? hhhmmmmmmm eyes when did you first start noticing it? when you were saddling?
here's some questions:
what did the chest xray show in the ER?  have you ever been to a pulmonologist? or had a PFT? (pulmonary function test), asthma? did you have an echocardiogram ever? checked for RA? lupus?
when you mentioned that ice eased it a bit that is interesting. muscular strains typically respond to ice...but you have to make sure there is nothing major going on. if this continues, i would absolutely seek counsel from a good PCP or a specialist. that's  good that the heart enzyme labs were negative.
this might be a case where they will have to rule out a whole bunch of things. if there is some sort of RA or inflammatory process going on it may well be costo. also, mitral valve prolapse in some people can cause an achiness along the sternum and ribs. as does chronic pleuritis. emphysema and asthma too. eyes
be careful!!!!!!!!!!!  one can never be TOO SURE WITH CHEST PAIN! and ya never want to risk a "maybe this or maybe that". i sure hope you find answers or better yet...it goes away! but keep track of it...there are so many variables of what it may stem from. 
in the mean time, i know how painful it is. sometimes mine is to the point where i can't speak, and like yourself...breath fully or move (mine is from costo RA with pleuritis, emphysema and at times acute pericarditis). it's such an uncomfortable feeling and i hope someone helps you!
where do you ride? work at a barn? i luv horses and racing. it's the best. :-)
take good care
erin

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   Posted 6/29/2005 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
sad  hi, still in pain. No one has actually diagnosed it as costochondritis, but it sure feels like it. I am still having pain all day with acute pain once in a while. Last time was last night for two hours in the middle of the night. Couldn't stand, couldn't sit, couldn't lie down...I just had to wait it out. In my quest to get better I have seen 8 different practitioners. One acupuncturist (three times) and even a chirpopractor (i am not sure if that's helping or hurting more). I am finally taking prescription strength anti-inflammatories for ten days. I started yesterday. The pain has been around for two weeks as of yesterday. I have another appointment today with another PCP and hope that she has better news, or at least a diagnosis. I am extremely frustrated, I don't feel like myself, I am sad and tired all the time, and on top of it all, I am developing panic attacks when the pain comes. Anyone else with this combo?
 
All the EKG's (3) were okay, the chest xrays were fine, the CT scan of my lungs was fine, the blood tests were all fine, and the echocardiogram was fine. It has to be muscular. The ribs and sternum are very very sore and the area under the breast hurts badly during an acute attack. I don't know how much longer I can deal with this. I hate going to work with the pain, trying to sleep with the pain, and even driving is a chore. Not to mention I am so anxious about getting the pain when for some reason its gone away. There is no relief. I am on valium and cataflam 2X/day each.
 
?? confused, tired, annoyed, scared.
a.

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   Posted 6/29/2005 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
sad   sad sad will be wishing you good answers from the doc....how horrible to feel this way. sad sad sad
it's a perfectly natural response for our bodies to go into a panic state when chest pain occurs and everything from breathing to moving an inch brings agony. if it's consoling in any way...when i first was developing the pleural/sternal and rib inflammation, i felt it was a heart attack or stroke and went to the ER and was shaking profusely and hysterical crying and gasping for air (plus developed a siezure on top of that because my O2 sat got so low from not being able to breath in from such bad chest pain)
once you get a definite dx from the doc about wether it being inflammation or muscular, i feel your anxiety will lessen. the fear may lessen. I MEAN....WHAT THE H*LL....IT IS ONE OF THE MOST TERRIFYING EXPERIENCES WHEN "NOT KNOWING" IS AT HAND. 
are the sedatives helping? i sure hope so for the meantime. are you able to adjust your lifestyle for a while? i mean like reduce using your arms, talking for a long time, lifting, driving or anything else that triggers a flare? i know it's a pain in the butt and such an inconvenience and soooooo fustrating  mad  . do you have a heating pad? i use that on top of menthol and pain meds as to not let it get too out of hand (and then i throw everyone out of my space and shut the phone! hee hee hee) so i don't have to move and aggrevate it.
please let us know how your appt went. it would be great if these anti inflammatories take the edge off. what is your Rx the doc gave you? 
just getting off Sulindac ( devil caused EPIC bowel m's  devil ) LOL!  and starting Lodine (is working better) for inflammation.  
i wish you the best & some relief real soon.
sincerely,
erin

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   Posted 6/29/2005 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   
So I had my 9th visit to another healthcare provider....Finally, she diagnosed costochondritis (officially). So now I know its not all in my head. She was surprised at how much inflammation and pain I was having at the time of the appointment, and its 16 days after the first ER visit. So I cried a lot and told her how miserable I feel, how painful, frustrating, scary, etc... She told me to get off the NSAI's and to get back on good ol' over the counter ibuprofen, which was the most helpful to me anyway. (When I got on the Rx stuff, I actually felt worse). So tonight I will start the ibuprofen again. I'll use the arnica ointment she suggested for inflammation and pain (who knows if it'll work) but at this point, I'll try anything. I tried the pillow under the left arm thing last night during an acute attack and I am sad to report that I got no relief from it :( I had such high hopes.

I am supposed to remain on the tranquilizer (for the accompanying anxiety) and for the duration of this bout of pain, I will also be on an anti-depressant. I am scared to start a new med, but I honestly feel sad all day long and I cry and cry, from the pain, the despair, and general frustration. It is embarassing at work, so hopefully this stuff will help and I can get off it in a few months when this is behind me.

My other hope is that I start to feel better soon, although as I type this, I am getting the pain again...I don't see it getting resolved soon, so on for the long haul...

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   Posted 6/30/2005 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Amartin, please forgive my tardiness in welcoming you to HW. It is great that you have found a place where people understand what you are going through. I wish you all the best with the meds that you are now trying. Getting a positive Dx is very uplifting. It gives you peace of mind to finally know that it is not all in your head. Hope you all the best and know that you will be in my prayers.
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   Posted 7/2/2005 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, day 19 of costo-pain. Started the anti-depressant three days ago. I don't feel like crying all the time anymore but the pain is still here and as annoying as ever.

Question 1: I have heard that this can last months??? 2 months? I heard six weeks or so. Any estimates from you guys?

Question2: I have had the pain on the left side only, but last night I noticed a little pain on the right. Does it move from side to side? It is not possible for me to have injured the right side because I have literally not done a thing to aggravate any muscle in my body for almost three weeks, so what can this be?

Remember, I have seen 9 doctors and all have ruled out cardiac things, viruses, lupus, etc...

thanks for all your good thoughts,
amartin confused

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   Posted 7/17/2005 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
confused  amartin, how have you been? i am so sorry about how this pain has not gone away and still persists. how has it been lately?? confused
the costo i suffer had at one time persists for MONTHS straight...like 50 days in a row with times of it getting much worse than others. it moves from spot to spot of varying intensity. right now the way i handle the pain is keeping my activity to a minimal. it is sad to hear but ever since i have been on bed rest, the costo pain and back spasms has let up and improved.
keep a close eye on it. are you on pain meds? perhaps a pain specialist? again i am on heavy pain meds so maybe that is why it has not been horific lately. when is your next docs sppt?? eyes
my heart goes out to you....it is terrible to be in pain.
take good care always
erin
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