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Patd94
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   Posted 12/8/2005 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
So, here I am...43 soon.
I have always been active...Football, Hockey, Trampolining, Martial Arts, Boxing, Table tennis, Badminton, and most of all Tennis and Squash. I have at some point in time actively persued all these pastimes and currently play at least one hour of football, 2 and a half hours of tennis and 2 40 minute sessions of squash per week every week. I also Weight train 2 to 5 times per week from anywhere from half an hour up to an hour and a half.
 
I was fine until approximately 18 months ago when I had a massive pain in my groin , as usual I just carried on, I'm not one for resting or going to the doctor.  I have only had 4 days off work ill in the last 18 years.
Anyway, the pain got progressivly worse. I could hardly walk but always felt slightly better after exercise. But then a few hours after in complete agony. This went on for about a year, then the pain started to ease a little and my flexibility started to come back a little. A ha I'm on the mend I thinks. My only problem now is the not being able to sleep properly. Some nights I get a couple of hours sleep, some none at all.
Due to the fact that after a year and a half of very little sleep and the constant pain I was getting a little tired and irritable. So like a fool I go to the doctor, initially he says Mmmmmmm...could be a little Artritis...we will get you x-rayed and find out.
2 weeks later I get called in to hear the news that my left hip has no gap and my right hip has a redused gap in the joint...this basically means my hip left hip can not get much worse than it is.
No wonder it hurt. I will be seeing a specialist some time after xmas. But basically I have 2 options
1. Put up with the pain for the rest of my life (scares me thinking about that)
2. Have the op and give up my sport.
Now initially I can't even imagine giving up sport, but pain for the rest of my life.
Again anyway it's only pain and I have almost got used to sleeping with a pillow between my knees.
I have been told to keep doing as much of what I have been doing as I can manage and live with the pain. My only real concern is this. When I play football I do a lot of running, almost non stop. My squash is vey quick and fast moving....am I doing any more damage to my hip joint?
The funniest thing is I am finding it harder to do now what I have been doing for ages just because I know whats wrong. The pain is actually less now I am taking anti inflamitries but I feel like I should be sitting down with my pipem and slippers and just taking it easy.
Isn't the mind a funny thing.
 
Well that was a long post
Thanks for listening
Pat

Ducky
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   Posted 12/8/2005 6:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Pat - Welcome to Healing Well! I envy you to be so active! I don't think that if you have the operation you'll have to give up sports... If you keep going without the operation, you may be worse off... You may cause more damage than there already is... It will be a long recovery and you may not ever be back to 100%, but I think you'd be better off... There are others on this forum that have similiar stories as you, they will be along shortly to lend there support and give their 2 cents... I wish you luck in whatever decision you make... please keep us posted on what you decide! Again welcome to healing well! - Duck
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel

Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant

Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
 
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
 
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


CaMama
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   Posted 12/9/2005 12:33 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Pat and welcome.

I'm sorry to hear about your pain. I have not had any experience personally or through friends regarding the surgery - but wanted to wish you well in your quest to feel better.  I'm quite jealous of your activity level.

The mind is a funny thing and it is amazing how your body can react to concern, stress, and other emotions.  I wouldn't pull out the permanet pipe and slippers just yet :-) ..this is still all very new for you and your body as well and your mind are adjusting to this new information and pain. I don't think you should have to or need to give up your active  lifestyle, but you do need to do research and see what you can do to avoid making things worse, keeping pain to a minimum, and learning to listen to the new "voice" in your body.

Take care.

**


 


Patd94
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   Posted 12/9/2005 8:16 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi, just got back from 2 hours of Tennis.  Starting to get harder to finish the session off now. 2 paracetemol+codeine help a little. Hot bath when I got back, that seems to help the most.

I have a dull ache at the moment which will slowly turn into pain. Not excrutiating pain like before I started taking my anti-inflamitaries but just that constant nagging pain that wears you down and stops you from sleeping.

I'll have a couple of hours rest now. Then onto my Body works pro to warm my joints ready for my squash. 2 more pain killers and a hot bath when i get back, another anti-inflam and almost certainly no sleep tonight again.

Funnily enough it's the phantom pain in my knee that hurts the most and ther is nothing wrong with that.

Anyway the chair and pillows are calling me.


erin.K
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   Posted 12/9/2005 9:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome Patd94!
 
Continue to do what makes you happy.  It is all about quality of life.  If you need painkillers....use them.  If that helps at all to help maintain your mobility than that's a good thing.
 
With your concerns about treatment.  Having a consult with a few orthopedics and a rheumatologist and maybe even a surgeon might be beneficial as to how to "keep optimal joint functioning"...without having to jump into surgery right away.
 
What NSAIDS are you on?
 
The activity you do will help your range of motion and joints stay fluid and mobile...but heavy duty pounding like running and stuff can perhaps make what you have left...a little worse.  Have you ever seen a physical therapist?
 
You sound as if you are pretty well in tune with your body.  Take your time, get some consults if you feel they're needed....and you'll make the right decisions.  Just listen to those hips! 
There is a member here, Tom, who you'll probably share a lot in common with!
 
The very best to you.
Sincerely,
Erin 

Patd94
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   Posted 12/10/2005 12:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I am on volterol 50mgs 3 x a day.
This seems to be enough with basic pain killers.
I also have Zydol for when the pain gets bad and I cannot sleep. I don't want to take these unless absolutely necessary. In some ways I am lucky because I can put up with pain reasonably well.
I am almost certainly going to stop the football after xmas though. This seems to give mr the most after pain. (And pain during) I am looking at taking up chess again just incase I cannot be as active in sport as I have been. A lot of people have just said why bother? is sport that important? Normally as they are stuffing a great huge pile of chips in their gob or smoking 20 cigerets or downing 20 pints of beer.
I have now kept extremely fit for the last 23 years. My body is athletically muscular (photos are available for a cost{thats a joke by the way} and I can play 40 minutes of squash without to much trouble. Most people I play are exhausted when they finish. I don't really want to become a couch potato.
I am now looking at getting a Tony Little Gazelle elit and was wondering if any others with hip problems have used similar equipment to keep their hip joints moving.
Thanks Pat.

erin.K
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   Posted 12/10/2005 9:26 AM (GMT -7)   

yeah  Hey Pat,

Make a calender with your best photos!   yeah LOL....all proceeds going to Healingwell! hah!   tongue I bought a Gazelle about 5 years ago when my RA got  bad & the gym was a waste to pay 60 dollars a month.  I was disapointed because it had almost no resistance, but it did feel great on the hips. Streatches them nicely.  But maybe they make a better model now, I'm sure.

Now I just walk when & for as long as I can.  My weight is not a problem (94 pounds)...but like you know...I'm used to having a very very lean physique [ photos available...my agent is Ducky]....LOL! tongue Trying to embrace my "squishiness".

I can definitely see the football causing the major pains...try something lighter...say Rugby, just kidding.

Do you bike?  Cycling is pretty much joint sparing. 

The best to you Pat.

Cheers!

Erin


Ducky
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   Posted 12/10/2005 2:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Pat - have your people get with me and we can all do lunch and discuss the calendar and Erin's guest appearances! ROFLMBO! HEE HEE HEE
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel

Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant

Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
 
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
 
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


Patd94
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   Posted 12/11/2005 5:10 AM (GMT -7)   
My people have advised against the calendar as it may cause mass hysteria in the shops.
Not only that it would have to be body only as the face would scare small children and animals.

I have found someone who lives near me who has bought one of the new Gazelle elites and I am going to try it out. They do look extremely good on the TV. Tony Little wears me out just watching him.
I just need it to keep my hip flexible.

I Bike to work and Squash and football. It's not far but it is a good warm up for me.

I have just lost 1 and a half stone to take some of the stresses off my joints.

Ducky
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   Posted 12/11/2005 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Pat - no calendar huh? Well, we've gotta be able to market you somehow! :) Good luck to you with the Gazelle, just becareful not to hyperextend anything! :) Let us know how it goes - Duck
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel

Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant

Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
 
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
 
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


oreo
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   Posted 12/15/2005 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Pat, allow my to throw you a big welcome to HW!!!!! Sorry for my tardiness in welcoming you. Christmas season is always very hectic for me and to get an hour on the comp. a day is very hard. So welcome........

Congrats on being so active. It is great to see people who are able to be as active as they want around here. It is an inspiration to all of us!!!! Now to answer your q from your first post, in my opinion of course.......Are you doing more damage by continuing to be as active as you are?........The short answer would be yes.....however there are many areas that you need to look at to answer that q for yourself..... what would the emotional impact be if you were to slow down your regime (?)? could you cut back on how much you do and yet still keep most of the benefits of the physical exercise intact? would you realistically be able to cut back on how much you do? These are the important questions to ask yourself. Only you can answer them. I am not saying that you need to become a couch potato but what benefit is it to maintain the amount of exercise you do, if in a year (or more, or less) you have added to the damage so much that you are not able to be active at all? Would it be better to slow done now and let your body heal some more or keep up the level you are at and possibly do more damage to your joints? Sorry to be so blunt but I tend to call things as I see them if I think it gets my point across better.

Now that I've given you my opinion let me say that I think it is great that you are willing and able to keep pushing past the pain and stay active. It takes commitment and will power to do what you are doing. Thanks for joining us here, we have enjoyed getting to know you. Keep posting and let us know how you are making out.

Oreo
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Patd94
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   Posted 12/16/2005 12:20 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi, I am only to pleased to listen to anyones opinion (after all that's why I'm here).

It's very awkward for me, I have spent the last 23 years keeping reasonably fit. I have been able to keep going this long because I love it so.  I have so often heard the phrase "Quality of Life".

This is a compromise of how much pain compared to how much pleasue my sport gives me.  i am in the early stages of my condition. So far I have had just over a year of almost unbearable pain because I had not gone to the Docs. Since seeing him and getting some meds the pain has been reduced a great deal. (Although had a really bad day today, could hardly walk if I was offered a new hip and knee today I would have jumped at the chance)

Living in th UK I either have to wait to see a specialist (this could be as long as 6 months) or pay to see someone. Over here that would be way out of my capabilities to pay as I have never had the forsight to take out insurance.

Until I have had expert advice I will continue to do as much as possible. I am getting a Tony Little Gazelle Elite on Monday to try and help keep my joints moving. This hopefully will help with the pain also.

Anyway I can still only do what my body will allow.

Xmas is just around the corner so I will have a little rest time. I am going to get a new Chess set from my partner and start playing that again just in case the worst happens and I have to stop my sporting activities. I also still have my PC to keep me busy.

I am currently teaching 2 people the finer arts of the game of Squash and don't really want to let them down unless I have no other choice.

If the worst does happen I have already been lucky enough to have spent as much time as I could with my children when they were younger.  I helped my son improve his football (still play with him on a Tuesday night). During the summer I spent most nights in the park with both of my children and taught them both to swim. Now they are older and mostly go their own way.

Pat


Ducky
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   Posted 12/17/2005 7:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Pat, you are a true inspiration to all of us... How wonderful for you to have done all that and continue too.... I'm sure the Gazelle will help as well as the meds, like you said, your body will let you know when you need to rest.. I wish you the best of luck, and if you ever change your mind on the calendar, well, let me know! :) Please let us know how you are doing! - duck
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel

Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant

Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
 
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
 
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


erin.K
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   Posted 12/19/2005 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Pat,
Have a very Merry Christmas!  My sister & her husband are flying to London from Newark, NJ on Friday night.  I've stayed a while in the UK in 2000.  Love the country side.
Besides the "typical" journeys to be made in London, what are some other interesting places you know of?  I suggested to her to go to christmas mass in Canterbury. (my very favorite place in England).  They're renting a car so they can travel.  Any suggestions?
 
I understand your "physical dilemma".  My exercise routine now is just walking whenever and for however long.  Used to dance (classical and modern)....but all the muscles have gone "fluff".  I'm very Kate Moss currently!  Hah!  @ 92 pounds...so we definitely have a "heroin chic'" page for Ducky's calender! LOL...can I be March? and July too! tee hee hee.  VIEW IMAGEErin 

Patd94
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   Posted 12/20/2005 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Mmmmmm, don't actually get out much myself.
Sport sport sport, work work work..don't do much else. Not much of a sight seer myself.
They will almost certainly see the London Eye (Big wheel lets you have a good view over most of London.)
There is also Harrods which is a big department store over here for people who are richer than me. I think the Japenese visit it a lot when they come over.
I am up for a game of Squash if they get down to the South West of England. I'll have $20 on this cripple.
There is also Madam Tussauds (Wax Museum).
Buckingham Palace (The Queen lives there so I am told).
They could also come and watch me play Football(Soccer) with my 16 year old Son on Boxing Day(Knee permitting. I have just come back from the hotspital, knee has really swelled up. Can't walk at the moment)
Crutches dished out and MRI scan next Wednesday.
Sorry can't be much more help than that (never realized what a boring old git I am)

Patd94
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   Posted 12/20/2005 6:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeah...no fair(is that spelt right) I click on the view image hoping to see you and what di I get....well you already know.

erin.K
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   Posted 12/20/2005 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   

Fooled you! hah!  I'm not too computer savy and do not know how to transnfer photos onto a written post!  So the cartoon people will have to do.

Aha!  I forgot about Madam Tussauds.  They have quite a bit of money (well, her husband does...he works on Wall Street in New York) so I know they will hit Harrods.

My sister studied English Literature when in University...so she holds the UK dear to her heart.

When I traveled Europe I did the opposite of what the "tourists" did!  And I was pretty much "under the influence" in London on my journeys around the city...so I cannot remember where I went!  But, I did get mooned by 6 British guys outside a pub near the big VirginMega Store....they were singing, "You are My Sunshine"....and down with their pants they went on the last verse.  Priceless.  

Thanks for thinking though!
Cheers!
Erin
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