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madgirlything
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   Posted 2/15/2006 4:14 AM (GMT -7)   
hi
i have been on humaria injections for just over a year, but when i had my flu jab in november, within days i had a bad flareup that put me in hospital. i had pulse therapy while there and left feeling great and was put back on methetraxate i was told i the effects of treatment would last 3 months by which time the methretrexate will have kicked in. less that 3 weeks later i had another flare up this time they gave me a kenologue injection which made me feel great for 4 weeks, then i had another flare up, i was given another kenologue injection last week and am feeling much better. i would be interested to know if anyone has suffered flares up following flu jab. :-)

Ducky
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   Posted 2/15/2006 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi madgirlything and welcome to HW! I'm sorry to hear of your flares... I haven't heard of anyone having a flare after their flu shot, however, I'm sure you're not the only one... I am on Enbrel and I get the flu shot every year, and seem to be ok... good luck to you, and I must say I am curious as to the responses you get! Best of luck to you - Duck
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel
Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant
Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/15/2006 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
hi ducky thx for your reply. my rhumy nurse told me a couple of other patients had  suffered a bit of a flare up after flu jab, but nothing near as bad as me. she said the flu jab kick starts the immune system to produce anti bodies for flu and could have caused orginal flare up.........but dont know why im still getting them. by the way i am a R A suffer, have been for 20 years. smurf

elcamino
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   Posted 2/15/2006 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   

Just curious, as I'm currently taking Humira (2 months now).  I thought you weren't supposed to get the flu shot when you were on a TNF-inhibitor?  I thought that a common reaction would be a really bad case of the flu because of the increased risks of serious infections.  Good information to know, though.

Elcamino


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/15/2006 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Elcamino
 I found your response interesting i am in England and i was told it was important to have flu jab ,as my immune system is knocked down low, due to anti TNF injections and i would not be able to fight flu. I was also told if i had any kind of infection to take anti- biotics straight away. I would be interested to know which country you are in and if different countries give different advice.
thx mad smurf

erin.K
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   Posted 2/15/2006 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
hello all!
Welcome Mad! 
Here's the low-down on vaccinations while on anti-TNF agents.  The risk for serious adverse reactions to vaccines applies to "Live-Virus Vaccines."  Enbrel & Humira may decrease the response to live virus vaccines and increase the risk of adverse reactions; should not be administered concurrently.
The flu vaccine is made of inactivated variants of influenza type A and B or both dependingon the year.
Those who are immunosuppressed should receive the Flu Vaccine.  So if you are taking Humira/Enbrel/....and it was OK by your doc, then it is perfectly fine to have the flu shot.  Although, I would tell the doc first before you receive it to make sure you do not have an active infection anywhere.
 
What a person DOESN'T want to do is recieve a LIVE VIRUS vaccine.  Live vaccines are measles, mumps, rubella, Polio.  Take caution with pneumococcal, meningococcal vaccines, smallpox, typhoid, varicella zoster & pertussis.
 
If you did have a flu shot and did have a very bad reaction, you may be allergic to the egg protein that is in it!  And given, the flu shot CAN make you feel crappy and sometimes even feel sick, which can bring about a flare.  Anything that is introduced into the body of a person with an AI disease can make it go a little haywhire!  We must be careful.
Rest well Mad!  I hope you are feeling well soon.
Sincerely,
Erin
Active, Severe RA. Crohns Disease. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. AS. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg every 4 days; pred; Pentasa; Imuran; dilaudid; diazepam; Avanza 30mg & too many others.


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/21/2006 4:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Well here i am having another flare already, last jab only worked for week and half. Rang hospital yesterday but cant get in until next monday, but nurse did say about trying me in embrol or watever it is.putting on a brave face ( with help of pain killers)
today as its my birthday and am going to bingo with friends and fiance wants to take me for meal tonite.Anyone else there been swapped from humaria to embrol, if so did it make a difference.
thx mad smurf

Ducky
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   Posted 2/21/2006 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I am on Enbrel, and it was worked well for me... What kind of arthritis do you have?
Diagnosed January 2005 - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis
-Currently taking 50mg shot weekly of Enbrel
Diagnosed May 1998 - Graves Disease
-Complete Thyroidectomy September 1998 - While 11 weeks pregnant
Other Complications - GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/21/2006 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
 hi ducky
  thx for birthday wishes, i have rhumatiod arthritis was diagnosed twenty years ago. glad enbrel is working for you.will put another post in next monday after i been to hossy and find out what they are gonna do with me
mad smurf

erin.K
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   Posted 2/21/2006 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   

happy belated birthday!

wasn't switched from humira to enbrel....but enbrel to humira rather.

still waiting to see some sort of improvements.  been on TNFs for 2 years now.  been on humira since august.

enbrel did work very well for a while for me with RA.

best wishes! & good luck!


Active, Severe RA. Crohns Disease. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. AS. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg every 4 days; pred; Pentasa; Imuran; dilaudid; diazepam; Avanza 30mg & too many others.


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/22/2006 3:10 AM (GMT -7)   
hi thx erin
humaria was great for me for 1st year until i had dreaded flu jab lol.so hope i go on new treatment and it works, but dont think i will have flu jab at end of year.
mad smurf

erin.K
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   Posted 2/23/2006 2:15 PM (GMT -7)   
hey Mad! just checking in to see how goes it?
best wishes
erin
Active, Severe RA. Crohns Disease. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. AS. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg every 4 days; pred; Pentasa; Imuran; dilaudid; diazepam; Avinza 30mg; MiraLax & too many others.


madgirlything
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   Posted 2/24/2006 2:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Erin
Feeling much better than i did thx,at doctors this morning to get sick note and have blood test, then at hossy monday to see if they gonna change treatment.How are you feeling?
mad smurf

madgirlything
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   Posted 2/28/2006 4:02 AM (GMT -7)   
hi
Went to hossy yesterday,my rhumatology nurse was great,but not changing injections yet,as i just upped methratrexate and they want to wait and see if that helps me.Iam also waiting to go in and have my shoulders injected,insisted on being sadated for that because first time i had them done i passed out on doc,then refused to have them done lol.
mad smurf
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