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CaMama
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   Posted 6/27/2006 10:28 PM (GMT -7)   
hi there, I'm posting this to ask about my husband. 2-3 months ago he dropped a very heavy block on his big toe. (I can hear the jokes already!) The corner of it landed right on his toe right at the joint where you bend it.
 
He went in for x-rays as he couldn't move it at all - doc said "isn't broken, will be better in a week." A week! The bruising wasn't horrible, but his toe was black and blue for a long time. To this day (over 2 months later), he still cannot bend it w/o pain, and just recently has he been able to walk on it semi-normally.
 
Now we see that right below the joint, there is good-sized lump. We don't know if it is swelling, calcium deposits, fluid, or who knows what.  Is this something that will go away or does he need to get it checked out? He hates to spend the money if "it's nothing" but would hate to go and hear, "if you had only come in earlier....." as well.
 
What do you think? Any thoughts, ideas, or experience with something like that?
 
ALSO - I suggested maybe he needs a cortizone shot if it is swelling, he reminded me that the last 2 shots he had (in a finger joint) made his finger swell up 3 times the size (couldn't even bend it) for almost a month before it got better and isn't sure he wants that to happen to his toe right before vacation. Does that kind of swelling sound normal?
 
Thanks for any input! ***
 


deejane
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   Posted 6/27/2006 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey CaMama!  Is the lump on his toe "squishy" or hard?  If it's squishy, maybe it's fluid and needs drainingl  But, if it's been like that for 2 months you DEFINITELY need someone else to take a look at it!!  He may need a shot, more x-rays......who knows????  But, it sounds like it's not going to heal properly on its own.  Take care of it.  Leaving it alone could cause additional problems with improper healing and walking on it too early.  Is he seeing a rheumy or an orthopedic surgeon?  He might really need to see an orthopedist, if he's not seeing one for this injury.
 
Well, take care and please keep us posted@@
deejane
 
Current DX:  psoriatic arthritis/rheumatoid arthritis/spondylitis/fibromyalgia, carpal tunnel, degenerative disc disorder, nerve damage, high blood pressure
Current meds:  Remicade 400 mg. every 5-6 weeks, methotrexate, celebrex, lortab, folic acid,
flexeril, topamax, toprol XL, lortab 10-500
Previous meds:  Enbrel, humira, bextra, vioxx


CaMama
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   Posted 6/27/2006 10:53 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks! It seems pretty hard. He actually had to go to urgent care when it happened. He is being cheap and doesn't want to spend $25 to see PCP who then has to refer him to a specialist for another $25.....I told him weeks after it happened, "go back in! they said a week and you still can't walk!" Now he sees this lump and is concerned.

I don't know if he knows if the lump has been there that long or not....it was bruised and swollen at first and too painful to touch (I don't know how it was NOT broken - that thing he dropped was insanely heavy! Though, he was wearing boots....)

I'll tell him to call and just request a direct referral to an orthopedist - if they'll do that.

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erin.K
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   Posted 6/29/2006 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Geez. Honestly, there isn't much to do for a broken toe. It'll eventually heal by itself. A splint and ice & elevation will help.
Perhaps there's a hematoma? A nasty hard black n' blue can form inside kinda (and show outside of course) and can be very painful and last a long time.
There's not oo much to toes...if he tore through a tiny ligament or something that can take several months to heal as ligaments & tendons mend slower than bones.
If there's an infection, now THAT needs attention.
Any drainage? Does it ooze? Red? Hot? Throbbing? Green? (ewwww) Did the nail come off?
Alright I'll stop, I know this was just so appetizing to read. LOL.
Ciao,
erin
Active, Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns. AS. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. Partial complex seizures. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung & Heart. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg Q 4 days; Pred 20mg prn; Pentasa 4G daily; Imuran 50mg; Dilaudid 4mg; Diazepam 5mg; Avinza 30mg; Reglan; Meclizine; LidoDerm; MiraLax & too many others.


Flopsie
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   Posted 7/3/2006 11:43 PM (GMT -7)   
THAT'S MY GIRL!
 
DON'T WALK IN FRONT OF ME..I MAY NOT FOLLOW

DON'T WALK BEHIND ME......I MAY NOT LEAD

JUST WALK BESIDE ME AND BE MY FRIEND



ALBERT CAMUS


Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Rejoice and be glad in it...


CaMama
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   Posted 7/4/2006 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   

Due to insurance, he HAD to see the PCP first. I think they are sending him to a podietrist in Sept. PCP thought it was "normal" and possibly physical therapy would help. Strange.

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erin.K
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   Posted 7/4/2006 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   

cool  Hey mama!  Ya know, for some reason last nite I was thinking about what happenned to your hubby's toe! LOL  Of all the things to pop into my brain! smurf My honey hurt his foot, a stress fracture from running, so that's why feet were on my mind.

September confused what a ways to wait!

So Flopsie, my reply was up to par eh?  Good. You need to be watching me, I don't want to get rusty you know.  being out of the nursing game for a while...yikes a YEAR!  But the good thing is I do re-read a lot of text and current nursing magazines as to not feel too out of touch.

HAPPY 4th OF JULY!!!!!!!  Don't blow off any fingers!  Be sure all digits are accounted for. tongue


Active, Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns. AS. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. Partial complex seizures. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung & Heart. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg Q 4 days; Pred 20mg prn; Pentasa 4G daily; Imuran 50mg; Dilaudid 4mg; Diazepam 5mg; Avinza 30mg; Reglan; Meclizine; LidoDerm; MiraLax & too many others.


CaMama
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   Posted 7/4/2006 1:23 PM (GMT -7)   

Right now we're more concerned about a situation that I don't think his toe pain is registering much. He has a concussion and his eye is killing him. The hit on the head happened at the temple right above that eye. Would the swelling be causing the eye pain or is it possible it is from something else. There is not always a headache with the eye pain.

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Ducky
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   Posted 7/4/2006 4:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Mama... The swelling could be causing the eye pain, but to be safe, I would have it checked... please let us know how he is doing!
Confirmed Diagnosis of - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis/Graves Disease/GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes/Chronic UTIs
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid/Nitrofurantoin
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots
Additional Supplements - Multi-Vitamin/Bromelian/Acidophilus/Green Tea


CaMama
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   Posted 7/5/2006 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Will do if I can. We had a  huge fight yesterday. I tried to tell myself he was that mean bad becacuse of the injury and how upset and stressed out it has made him, but the fact is, he's been a jerk for quite a while to me - more often than not. I think he may have finally pushed me to the edge....I held my tounge from saying 'that's it!' - I"m reeling so much from the anger and hurtful words that I really don't think I can get over another fight like this.
 
I know he's double-stressed and angry about the whole situation he's going through and how it's very likely going to ruin our 2 week vacation coming up starting this weekend on top of not getting paid for missed work (situation happened at work.)  But I know him and he'd NEVER apologize for what he said (he was saying more milder stuff like that to me pre-accident) and I just don't know if I can brush this one under the rug - mainly because the rug is so full it doesn't even have room for special circumstances. sad   I'm so sick of his double standard (he yells at me about stuff that he does the SAME EXACT thing, but if I call him on it, he insists it's not true or it is different....he's always right, you know!)  I feel so alone and sad right now.
 
To make it worse, my birthday is in a few days - happy nothing.....okay, that's me just feeling sorry for myself.
 
I'm sorry, I just needed to vent somewhere that was detatched from my home life. I know it's not arthritis related but I really have no one personally I can trust to talk to about this and had to get it out before I blab it or cry it out at work, so thanks for listening.
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erin.K
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   Posted 7/5/2006 8:54 AM (GMT -7)   

hey, everything is related!  your personal, mental & emotional life constitute a major part of overall well being.

choppy waters...perhaps just waiting until he's cooled off for a while for any serious talk.

always here for you.

{{{{{{{ big hug Camama }}}}}}}}}


Active, Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns. AS. Chiari Malformation & Right Brain venous anomoly. Partial complex seizures. Emphysema. Rheumatic Lung & Heart. MVP and Tricuspid prolapse. Had Lymes disease for 10 years.
Meds: Humira 40mg Q 4 days; Pred 20mg prn; Pentasa 4G daily; Imuran 50mg; Dilaudid 4mg; Diazepam 5mg; Avinza 30mg; Reglan; Meclizine; LidoDerm; MiraLax & too many others.


Ducky
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   Posted 7/5/2006 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hang in there CaMama... like Erin said... it's all related
Confirmed Diagnosis of - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis/Graves Disease/GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes/Chronic UTIs
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid/Nitrofurantoin
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots
Additional Supplements - Multi-Vitamin/Bromelian/Acidophilus/Green Tea


yalinda
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   Posted 7/5/2006 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   
camama, ((((((((((big hugs))))))))))

keeping u in my thoughts and prayers

wish i was there to give u the hug in person,

<3 linda

CaMama
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   Posted 7/6/2006 1:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone. It has been a rough day, but thankfully, tonight was much better. I just don't know...you know, I love him so much. I really need and depend on him so much as well (it's pathetic, I know - but I think, deep down, he does as well) ....and when things are fine, they are good - but, this stuff has been building somethign awful over the last couple years and I sometimes wonder if I just shouldn't call it quits before the kids start getting affected (if they haven't already.)
 
Maybe it is the concussion making his anger worse. I don't know. It is unforgivable. We don't talk things through - we're too dysfunctional - and it often makes our arguments worse.
 
For now, once again, I'll stick around and will wait and see what happens. We'll go on vacation if he's feeling better. I thought about not going - but, since there is improvements already tonight, I'll give it a chance and see what happens. However, like I said, the build up under the rug is getting too big and there are some hurtful things (like yesterday) that will never go away completely. I'm not happy with who I've become and the fact that I'm usually the one compromising my beliefs and wants for him. He'd probably tell you it's the opposite way around here....but that's how he responds to most anything I say. ***
 


elcamino
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   Posted 7/6/2006 4:45 AM (GMT -7)   

Camama, I'm sorry your husband is not treating you well right now.  On top of everything else you have going on, I'm sure it's the last thing you need from him.  Not that this is an excuse to treat a spouse poorly, but when my husband gets worried about me, he tends to take it out on me.  He'll blow up about every little thing.  IN any case, I'm sure things will work out for both of you--a cooling off period is in order.  And the vacation may be just the thing you both need!

With respect to the referral, I can usually call my PCP and request a referral by phone.  They've never insisted I come in first.  Perhaps that's up to the individual doctor, though, and the reason for the referral.  Insurance is such a game!

Elcamino


Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: Early Lupus/MCTD
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


CaMama
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   Posted 7/6/2006 8:10 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks. I appreciate all the support - Lord knows I need the ear and the shoulder!

The referal I think has to do with the HMO - I've run into that problem as well around here and I'm under a different medical group than he is and still have to do the same usually.  Unless I have a very specific issue that I've seen the specialist for in the last year and need a renewed referral, I have to go in and pay to see the PCP first. It stinks.

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