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elcamino
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   Posted 9/20/2006 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone.  Just wanted to share that I've started reading the book, "The Maker's Diet," by Jordan Rubin.  My pastor had recommended I read it simply because the drugs I've been taking are so completely toxic, and perhaps I could at least cut down on some medications if I could find other ways to control the symptoms.  I was prepared to hate this book.  I've read some scathing reviews on the internet about, some on this very forum.  However, I must tell you that so far I'm very impressed with it.  The info. is presented in a very straight-forward way, and appears to be backed by actual research.
 
I'm sure we all know that our diets have a significant influence on our health; we are what we eat.  So it makes sense that eating more organic foods, and eliminating processed foods (convenience foods) would be a smart move.  What amazes me, though, is how difficult this is to do in our culture.  EVERYTHING appears to be processed to a certain extent.  Short of me quitting my job, and packing up my family, and moving to wilds of Canada and living off the land, getting a hold of some of these food items is not only going to prove difficult, but also expensive.  I think I'm going to try, though (not move to Canada, but the diet :)).
 
In any case, if you haven't read the book I highly recommend it.  Even if you don't subscribe to the theories, it is an interesting read.  For example, there are theories out there that explain why the Israelites were not affected by the bubonic plague; they were virtually the only group that remained standing.  Theory has it that their restrictive diet of kosher meats, and avoiding unclean, or contaminated meats like pork, combined with better hygiene habits, kept their immune systems boosted and protected them from a lot of diseases.  I'm sure this is an oversimplified view--just my own naive understanding.  But I think it's logical.  Anyone know of any stores that specialize in organic foods?  Organic section at my local market is practically non-existent.
 
Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
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Ides
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   Posted 9/20/2006 4:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I won't comment on the book but did want to comment about processed foods. When I began a flare that led me to getting scoped and diagnosed, I was placed on a very resticted diet. Then I had a bout of diverticulitis continuing the dietary restrictions. All in all, I went about 7 months eating very bland, easily digested foods. The severe dietary restrictions kept me from dining out too. During that time I ate NO fast food, no fried foods, and very few processed foods.

Since the introduction of Remicade, my gut is in remission and I can pretty much eat whatever I want. I have found the taste of processed foods turns me off - a strange after taste occurs. Someone offered me a potato chip and I thought I would choke on the grease from it. Also, I never could tolerate fruit most of my life and now that I can, I crave it! I have totally changed my eating habits and I think that is one of the reasons I have continued to lose weight in a healthy manner.

I cook from scratch for the most part. I buy organic goods when possible. Our local grocery has a very large section of canned and packaged goods that are certified organic. I can get organic chicken broth, canned diced tomatoes, juices, dried pasta etc. Cooking from scratch is a difficult for those that work outside the home. One of the things I do is to make double batches and freeze one to have a second meal later. Good lick with the diet.
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elcamino
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   Posted 9/20/2006 6:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Ides,

I thought cooking from scratch would probably be the easiest way to eat organically, or at a minimum, to avoid eating so many processed foods. Fortunately, I like to cook. I do work, though, so I will most likely have to cook on the weekend and re-heat during the week. Husband is home with my girls, but he is a horrible cook and plus he hates to cook.

We've decided to try the diet just a little bit at a time. We're going to start with soy milk--never had it, but we were told tonight that the vanilla flavor rocks.

You know, now that you mentioned it, when I followed a low-carb diet that eliminated chips and pretzels, and all that great junk food, I started craving fruit too. I actually stopped at a convenience store once for a banana?! Glad the remicade is keeping your cd in check.

Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


CaMama
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   Posted 9/21/2006 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I've found that once you 'train' your body to eat healthy, the 'junk' seems to be really gross. I've been at that point once before and so need to get there again... ...after being unable to loose weight for so long, I'm having difficulty. My desire to and disgust with the weight is there, but the ability to fend off the junk and emotional cravings prove to be difficult.  Being one who never lost weight easily in the first place, and now has it even harder - I feel I need a coach over my shoulder 24/7 for a while. Ugh. sad
 
Because my daughter was having serious lactose/dairy issue, I switched her to soy...and, knowing I should have switched ages ago (same problem), I did the 'switch' myself. I have to say, I have noticed improvements. Too much dairy gave me a flare (arthritis and psorisis) as well as other issues. When I do drink soy regularly, I notice I actually feel a little better - go figure, maybe it's been coincidence...I don't know....The plain and vanilla are great for cooking, but for drinking straight, go for the flavored over the plain. My personal opinion is that plain tastes and smells like dirt (or grass....or both....)
 
El - I was actually taught that theory in Sunday school about the Isrealites and the dietary/health habits being the reason why they survived through so much. How, by observation, they created these laws on health/cleanliness/diet/etc.
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elcamino
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   Posted 9/22/2006 5:03 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey Camama,

I tried the vanilla soy last night with a bowl of cereal.  It tasted very sweet--not bad, just different.  Of course, I never drink the milk with the cereal (like most people do), so I got just a taste of it.  My girls drank it, though.  They liked it, but I think they like cow's milk better.  Is the plain soy better for cooking? 

I never heard any theories on why the Israelites survived so much--this was news to me.  Makes sense, though.  I've read more of the book now, and although this guy (Jordan Rubin) has made some great points, some of his ideas are entirely unsubstantiated and, in my opinion, not correct.  I guess it's like any fad diet/lifestyle.  Everyone has to pick and choose what works best for them.

Elcamino


Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


CaMama
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   Posted 9/22/2006 10:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I switch between plain and soy for cooking based on what I'm cooking, honestly. I don't know if it really makes a difference or not.
 
My son likes both cow's milk and soy. My daughter doesn't care for soy, but she drinks it. Though my husband disagrees with me, I do try to give her the chocolate kind occasionally or turn the plain in to chocolate milk for her. I figure, the little bit of chocolate isn't going to hurt her as much as not drinking her milk. Plus, she can get the calcium and D from the fortified OJ as well. THough, I heard a theory that drinking things that were "fortified" and not naturally there (i.e. D) is thought to promote kidney stones.....you know, you JUST CAN'T WIN!
 
Every diet is different and every person reacts differently to the diet - it really is what works best for you. The main thing is, a good balance, healthy choices, smart portions, lots of water, and exercise. Now, if I could just DO that - it sounds easy enough!
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elcamino
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   Posted 9/23/2006 4:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Camama, you CAN do that! I know you can. Of course you are right; it's easier said than done. I do feel better when I eat healthy, and it looks like I will need to lose a few pounds which can help my acid reflux.

At this point, I've read more of that book. And I must say I'm VERY disappointed in it. The author made some good points about the importance of diet in physical and emotional health, but he couldn't refrain from getting on a platform for some very wacky (IMO) alternative health ideas (e.g., eliminating all of the electromagnetic fields in your life--no tv, cell phones, microwaves, radios, etc....). Needless to say I've closed the book and will not read the rest of it.

Nevertheless, it has opened my eyes to diet and I will try to eat in healthier ways from now on. Would you like to be my diet buddy?

Have a great weekend!
Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


Ducky
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   Posted 9/23/2006 4:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey gals.. CaMama, you can do this! I know you can... If you guys will have me, I too will be your diet buddy.. I need to loose about 30 lbs... 40 on a bad day... We had a diet thread a long time ago, we can start a new one and this way keep track of all our progress?! What do you think? I know I can't do it alone, I just don't have the willpower for it! But if we do this, can we start on Monday? I have in-laws in town, and I know I won't be eating healthy this weekend! tee hee hee...
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yalinda
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   Posted 9/23/2006 6:08 AM (GMT -7)   
tongue   count me in the diet thread!!!!!!!!!! yeah    i need to loose this pred weight and a few more!!!!!
 
we could share what works and what is not working for us....... gosh i need this thread...... yalin

CaMama
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   Posted 9/23/2006 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   

You guys are so cool....we can try the diet thread. I really need buddies. I think the last thread was started because of me complaining too! redface   I think Flopsie was the only success story of that thread!

I tried to get my sister and a friend to be my 'buddy' 2 months ago - I decided I wanted to loose (as close as I could) 20 pounds before a trip mid-October, and a total of 40 by the end of the year.....sadly, they were no help and I've gained 3 pounds!

My doctor said I'm not loosing weight by traditional means (cutting back, etc.) because of all my liver and metabolic issues. She said I have to be EXTREMELY strict for months before I saw any real progress (which, due to my failure rate these last few years, she must be right.) THat's why I just haven't be able to really get with it......too hard when you think of 80 lbs (yea, I know, think smaller goals, like my more recent attempt), too depressing, and really REALLY hard to motivate myself with no help in the house, it's easier to be depressed about it and eat.

But, if you guys start a thread Monday, I'll join!

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elcamino
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   Posted 9/23/2006 9:33 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm there. Catch up with you guys on Monday.
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


yalinda
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   Posted 9/23/2006 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
hey maybe we could start with a goal of 10-20 pounds.... something attainable and not too scarey? 40 just seems too hard and i might give up with a feeling of hopelessness, is that a word?

signed,

pleasantly plump on prednisone ~* yalinda :8-)

keepingthefaith
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   Posted 10/1/2006 5:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I just wanted to add, I too have read the "The Makers Diet" too.  Elcamino you are right to say it is very difficult to be compliant to this diet in this day & age.  However, what I have done is basically cut out the "bad" foods (pig) & try to follow the theories as much as possible.  I have been home cooking for a long time due to my Crohns Disease & I can tell you if & when I do grab something I shouldn't, well, I certainly pay the price. I feel the book is very educational & I know I can't follow it completely, but, I do the best I can with what options I do have. If you believe in what the bible says, well, it all makes sense, unfortunately, technology & science have made proper nutrition, family values & just plain rest time hard to manage.  God Bless 

Dx with CD 1987, 3 resections, 3 abscess sx, OA back & hips, depression/anxiety, kidney stones & sx to remove, now 43 yrs old.  Still trying to figure this disease out & of course all the little extra complications that come with this rollarcoaster of a life with CD. I love BON JOVI MUSIC- Keep the Faith; Living on a Pray, It's My Life
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