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elcamino
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   Posted 11/6/2006 5:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I know this has been asked before, but I can't recall the answer.  I'm currently taking plaquenil, enbrel, and mtx.  The enbrel and mtx are a double whammy on the immune system, and I was wondering if there would be a benefit to getting the flu shot.  They provide flu shots free of charge at my job, but I usually don't get one.  I'd rather leave it for the people who really need it--there are a number of older people in my building.  But with a compromised immune system, is it a good idea to get one anyway?  Also, can you get the flu shot with my medications?  I know there are some vaccines we are supposed to stay away from, but I don't believe the flu shot is one of them?
 
Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


jonathon
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   Posted 11/6/2006 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Elcamino,
I can really relate to your question...wish I knew the answer to that.....I've been wondering if its best to get the flu shot or not too for several reasons. I used to get them every year  up until 2004 and really believed in getting a flu shot. I got one when they first came out in Oct. of that year ...right after I got the shot (the very next day) there was a recall of the vaccine because they said they found some kind of contamination in some of it... (some may recall that event?)...they didn't elaborate on it too much as I remember....they stopped giving shots  the very next day tho.....couldn't get one anyplace for quite awhile..I got worried instantly and wished I didn't get that shot....they started giving them again a few months later as I recall and said the contamination problem was taken care of.....(wasn't a bit comforting to me tho)...A couple months after I got that shot (at a well known market chain pharmacy here) is when I was hit hard for the first time with PsA...woke up one morning just really bad off and after going to ER's and a bunch of dr's was finally diagnosed w/PsA by 2 different rheumatologists.....I've wondered ever since if I got a bad contaminated shot and it brought this PsA full blown to the surface somehow??... so I am very standoffish about getting a flu shot now...just not sure if its the best thing to do or not in my case... But thats just me, I don't say they are a bad thing, I know they are a good thing for alot of people.... its just the last shot I got, that whole recall situation, and then the  onset of  this bizarre disease was just really overwhelming in my case.
 Probably best to ask a rheumy about getting one to be on the safe side....my 2 cents anyway.
take good care,
wave~
Jonathon
PsA, AS, Trigeminal neuralgia,


Ides
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   Posted 11/6/2006 2:08 PM (GMT -7)   
My GI and rheumy both INSIST that I get a flu shot and strongly encouraged that all those living in my house also get one. My family mostly cooperates except one daughter with a needle phobia. She did say she would do it for me this year because she saw how sick I got with just a "cold" a few weeks back. Usual cold, started getting better and WHAM on day 5 awoke with brochitis and "walking pneurmonia."
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yalinda
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   Posted 11/6/2006 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
i have wanting to know that too!!!!! i do know an article stated no live viruses should be taken, but then i got a TB test without any problem or concern. Ides, are u on mtx? sry i forget everyones meds.....

have others gotten flu shots?

Ides
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   Posted 11/6/2006 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I take Imuran, an immunosuppressant/modulator and Remicade.
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elcamino
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   Posted 11/6/2006 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Ides. I think if I called my rheumy he would probably say the same, but then he is overly cautious (that is his job). I'm a fairly young, healthy person, other than this AI stuff. I guess the only concern is the mtx and enbrel.

Jonathon, I don't know about awry flu vaccines causing AI, but who the heck knows? It's possible, probably?

Yalinda, I did a brief search and discovered that both the flu vaccine and the pneumonia vaccine are not live viruses, and are recommended for people taking any of the biologics--I'm sure mtx would qualify as well, although it is not a biologic. This same article, though, didn't advise people who are currently in an arthritis flare to take the vaccine. I'm probably going to see my primary on Friday because I've had a fever for the past month and I want to make sure I don't have a low grade infection due the surgery I had last month. I'll ask her about a flu vaccine. I'll miss the flu shots on Wednesday that are being handed out at my job, but I'm sure she would probably give me one if she thought I needed one.

I'm going to take a bath. Feel horrible today.

Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


Chartreux
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   Posted 11/6/2006 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Elcamino:
Hope your feeling better.
I had two steriod injections and was on prednisone this year, so I went and got the flu shot.
They said with the steriods I've had that The flu shot might not be 100% effective but for me it's better than nothing.
I have Asthma, Gerd, Osteoarthritis and now a possible torn disc in my lower back for which I'm getting more steriod shots yayhoo right. (what a bummer).
Good luck to you!
(((Hugz)))
Take Care

curley
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   Posted 11/6/2006 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I take a flu shot and my Doctors also insist that I get one as well because of the meds I'm on and with a weeken immune system it makes it even harder to fight.
Thanks
Curley......
a.k.a.Mela...........


jonathon
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   Posted 11/6/2006 7:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Elcamino,
Yeah its just really hard to say one way or the other on that one.....
and since I will never be able to find out I'll just try to forget
about it and keep on keepin' on ;-)
have a good nite,
Jonathon
PsA, AS, Trigeminal neuralgia,


Ducky
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   Posted 11/6/2006 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey El... I have gotten the flu shot while on Enbrel... and everything seems groovy... I was told as long as you don't get the "flu-mist" it is the flu-shot, but like an inhaler, you are ok.. the "flu-mist" is a live-virus as that can be bad for us... Now this is just what I am being told.. .whether that is accurate or not, is a different story.. :) but so far, this will be year #3, and I am doing good.. let us know what you decide
Confirmed Diagnosis of - Psoriatic Arthritis/Spondylitis/Graves Disease/GERD/Scoliosis/Hiatal Hernia/Graves Disease of the Eyes/Chronic UTIs
Current Meds -  Enbrel/Prevacid/Synthroid/Nitrofurantoin
Past Meds - Inderal/PTU/Prednisone/Voltaren/Feldene/Mobic/Cortisone and Steroid Shots
Additional Supplements - Multi-Vitamin/Bromelian/Acidophilus/Green Tea

erin.K
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   Posted 11/7/2006 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
NO LIVE VIRUS VACINES!!!!!
everything else is "otay"
Active Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns Disease. A.Chiari Malformation & right brain venous anomoly. Partial Complex Seizures. MVP & Tricuspid Valve Prolapse. Rheumatic heart & lung. Previous Lymes Disease for 10 years.
Meds: Remicade infusions; Intra-articular knee injections; Imuran; Mesalamine; Prednisone; Meclizine; Reglan; LidoDerm; Diazepam; Restaril; Dilaudid; Avinza and too many others. 


yalinda
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   Posted 11/7/2006 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
how do we know their alive, do they talk to us heheheeh

sorry i am sick with my humor i know but "House" is my ideal so what do u expect from me but sarcasim

tonight at 9pm fox tv! House

now back to our regulary scheduled program..... Flu shots hehehehehe

elcamino
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   Posted 11/9/2006 5:16 AM (GMT -7)   

Yalinda--I love House too!  When does it come on?  It seems like they are constantly changing the time for that show.  I appreciate your warped sense of humor; it's similar to mine.

By the way, I missed the flu shots at my job.  I've been running a temperature for the past month, and I just didn't think getting the flu shot yesterday, which was the last day it was offered for free at my job, was a great idea until I know what's going on with this temperature.

Elcamino



Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


yalinda
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   Posted 11/9/2006 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
el, we can be House grouppies! for those out of area you can go to Fox TV and look up house.

probably best not to get flu shot with temp.... i am waiting cuz of the coughy thingy i got.... but i am worried cuz alot of the people i hae been seeing intheir homes seem to have colds and stuff and i wash my hands best i can after each visit with wipes and b&b antibacterial stuff.

so whats with the temp?????????????

yalinda

elcamino
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   Posted 11/9/2006 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Just back from primary regarding my temp. She believes I have a low grade sinus infection, and gave me a prescription for antibiotics. I think she was just being careful 'cause of mtx and enbrel, 'cause my temp didn't even register in the office. She did a throat swab too, and ordered a CBC. I had strep throat earlier this year.

I do think she may be right, though, about the sinus infection. I wake up every morning with a throbbing headache and it really hurts across the bridge of my nose. It's surely very minor, and in the past (I've had this before) I've ignored it and it has eventually gone away on its own. But it's been 4-5 weeks now, and I can't seem to shake it.

I'm going to go take a bath and put a heating pad on my face (not at the same time ).

Night everyone,
Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


MsKittie
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   Posted 11/9/2006 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi elcamino
 
I think the best thing for you to do would be to talk to your dr and be sure you have all your meds with you so he knows exactly what your on at a glance.
 
I hope everyone makes it thru this flu season without too many problems.
(((HUGS)))
   MsKittie
 
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JJ&Ms Mom
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   Posted 11/11/2006 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm on Enbrel, MTX and Prednisone. My Rheumatologist had me take a flu shot...before I left her office.
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