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Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/8/2006 2:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone had success with Ultram. The reumy put me on 50mg. 3 times a day and 1 Flexeril at bedtime. I seem to hurt all over and my shoulders are really bad. Had a MRI on them last week. He said arthritis and a small cyst on one of them and a rotator cuff small tear on the other. The one with the cyst I have had surgery on for spurs already. So not ready to jump for surgery. He said fibro too, but I'm not so sure.
 
Thought someone here might have a idea  . It is so nice to talk to someone other than a dr. Thank you for your input.
 
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   Posted 12/8/2006 5:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I take tramadol [generic Ultram]. It has worked well though not as well as initially. I have built a tolerance to it.
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Baybreeze
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   Posted 12/8/2006 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I tried generic Ultram, but it did not help any for my stenosis pain...but I was walking so funny from pain and the Ultram did help some of my other body parts that were hurting a tiny bit

deb in indiana
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   Posted 12/8/2006 7:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I was on it for 6 years 8 50 mg a day after a while it did nothing and the dr wouldn't give me any thing else and our insurance changed and he said it wasn't no good and he couldn't help me any more i just felt he took advange of the good insurance but also i filled for ssd at the same time .So i seeing a new dr.Deb

Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/8/2006 8:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds as if Ultram isn't wonderful. I don't think the drs. know of any more meds I guess there are not many new meds for artritis.

Thank you all for your replies.

Deb I am in Indpls.

Fluffy two

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   Posted 12/9/2006 5:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi. I take ultracet, which is a combination of tramadol and acetaminaphen. My rheumy swears that ultracet, because of the acetaminaphen, works better for most patients than tramadol alone. It works for me, although like others, I have built a tolerance to it so it doesn't work as well as it used to. With my other meds, though (enbrel and mtx), it's fine. You might want to ask your rheumy about it.

Elcamino
Current dx: Rheumatoid Arthritis
Suspected dx: UCTD/Early Lupus
Current Meds: Enbrel, Plaquenil, Aciphex, Ultracet, Zyrtec, Allavert-D, Zantac, Tylenol PM
Past Meds: Relafen, Vioxx, Mobic, Voltaren, Sulfasalazine, Entocort, Prednisone, Humira, Reglan


Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/9/2006 7:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you, I will when I go again. Though I do not like the rheumy I have gone to. Must get another one I guess but he has my medical history.

Fluffy two

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   Posted 12/11/2006 5:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I used ultram for awhile. Didn't help much. It might be ok for a short stint, but for long term chronic pain it doesn't work so hot.
I am listing symptoms/test results cuz my Dr is still trying to figure out exactly what's going on with me. If any of this rings a bell with you, email me at daisyhen at msn dot com.
 
DDD- MRI confirmed
Arthritis-xray confirmed
disc slippage in neck-MRI confirmed
Fibro
IBS-D
Ulcers-endoscopic confirm
dishydrotic eczema
Costochondritis
Had both knees scoped in '93' (awesome improvement)
Are we having fun yet?


Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/11/2006 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
            nono
Still using ultram like you said it's just okay but not wonderful.
You have had a lot of things I have too.
I think a lot of these things are immune disorders since many of us have similar problems.
 
 
Heading for FL in Jan for 3 months. Had MRI and need to operate on both shoulers, for different things left one spurs and small cyst something about a space to be scraped also. The right rotator cuff tear, Both require phs. therapy after. Knee pain involvement too. Sooooooo, decided to get shots in both shoulders cortizone I think, had them before, sometimes they really help. He wanted me to stay home for 4 weeks after surgery. I am going to wait, until we come back in 3 months for surgery istead. When you hurt all over first one hurting the most comes number 1. Taking a lap top with us so I will check in. I might miss something if not.
 
Guess we could all have a pain party??   yeah

erin.K
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   Posted 12/11/2006 3:31 PM (GMT -7)   

:-)  Hi Fluffy {love the name!} & welcome to Healing Well.  It's great to have you & I hope you find much support here.  It's a wonderful group of folks.

True, many of our conditions we have here are autoimmune arthritic problems & diseases but we do have our share of osteo arthritis and degenerative conditions.

Ultram is typically used for mild pain...so if you feel as though you are not as comfortable as you would like or if for instance your pain level is above an unacceotable level to you...a stronger pain med, perhaps a narcotic might be helpful.

I would also like to add that most rheumatologist have a specific realm of meds that they are allowed by law to prescribe, so it is rare that a rheummy prescribes opioids like Vicodin or morphine.  Some do, it varies state to state.

So a stronger pain med (a narcotic for example) plus an antiinflammatory adjunct is very successful for arthritis pain.  The most successful pain med combo would contain an NSAID plus a narcotic (like Darvocet +) Darvocet is a narcotic pain med plus it comes with aspirin in it or tylenol in it.  It's the antiinflammatory that will really help the pain, opioids really do nadda for swelling & throbbing pain.

I'm finding that steroids are like the ONLY thing that helps! ugh...I hate it, but...it works.

I migt have missed it in your post, but is your shoulder problems osteo arthritis related? Or do ou have RA or Psoriatic Arthritis?

I had great success with Darvocet-N 100 for about 4 years.  Then they didn't work anymore.  Many opioid meds come in combo with either aspirin or tylenol so it's a really good pain management plan.  LidoDerm patches work quite well...they are applied directly on the painful area.

Do you take prednisone at all?

Take good care & write back soon,

erin


Active Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns Disease. A.Chiari Malformation & right brain venous anomoly. Partial Complex Seizures. MVP & Tricuspid Valve Prolapse. Rheumatic heart & lung. Previous Lymes Disease for 10 years.
Meds: Remicade infusions Q3 weeks; Intra-articular knee injections; Imuran; Mesalamine; Prednisone tapering from 120mg; Meclizine; Reglan; LidoDerm; Diazepam; Restaril; Dilaudid; Avinza and too many others. 


Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/11/2006 4:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Erin for your reply,

What NASAID do you use that might help. Been on Prednisone never thought I would ever get off, side effects suck. Tappered off from 60 mg. doing it 2 1/2 mg at a time.

Am going to an Ortho right now, don't care for my Rheumy. When I get back maybe I can find a new one. I really only know what the MRI on shoulders revealed. I have Darvocet and he asked if I wanted Vicodin and I said no. Arthritis every place they have checked. Won't complain anymore You have many more problems than I do.

Have a good evening, Fluffytwo ( by the way, Fluffy was a good fairy that I told my kids when they were small lived up in the attic and I told them many funny stories about her)

deb in indiana
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   Posted 12/11/2006 4:25 PM (GMT -7)   
We our really close i live in Huntington In. it's 30 miles west of Fort wayne.I was in Indy not to long a go got hurt at work and they sent me to Ortho Indy a workers comp. dr.He said nothing was wrong with me and i could go back to work i went to a dr on my own he sent me to 2 other drs. in his group and they all said i needed a knee replacement i was falling down and knee was bucking but i could go back to work i said the hell with it and after 28 years of that job i just quit.I was 48 at the time now iam 50 drs.want me to wait till iam older to get knees done.I get the injections done all the time for fm and arthtris.I went to rumy in May and he said i needed pain doctor to get the pain relief i needed so i went and now iam doing better so maybe Erin is right about what they can give or not give you .Glad to meet you DEB

Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/11/2006 4:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Deb,
The dr. I am going to is with Ortho Indy. I go tomorrow for injections  in both shoulders.
What med has helped your pain? The rheumy said I have fibro too. I think it's a popular disease. Especially when they can't diagnose your problem.
 
What meds do you think has helped you, also what NSAID do you use.
 
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erin.K
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   Posted 12/11/2006 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Regarding NSAIDs...I can honestly say "never underestimate the power of the ADVIL!"  it's a great antiinflammatory.
Due to the Crohns, I can't take any NSAIDs because they cause too much bleeding for me; but I always used ADVIL to help the joint pain.
Now TYLENOL remember doesn't fall into the category of an NSAID, so it helps more with muscular/skeletal pain and not so much the very bad joint pain.  Tylenol may be better to help fibro.
Other meds that are NSAIDs are {and my experience before I developed GI issues}:
Celebrex...{good..but too much rectal bleeding}
Indocin (indomethacin) ....{worked okay, not for major pain}
keterolac....{didn't agree with me}
Mobic...{I thought this worked better than Celebrex}
Naproxen....{this one was good for joint pain}
nabumetone
ketoprofen
diclofenac
Sulindac...{worked for a while but again, not great for bad pain in the joints}
So the great thing is that there are SOOOO MANY options & if you don't like a certain one there are several others to choose from.  And a rheummy will be MORA THAN HAPPY to RX any NSAID or COX-2. :-)
Ciao!   Erin
Active Severe Rheumatory Arthritis. Crohns Disease. A.Chiari Malformation & right brain venous anomoly. Partial Complex Seizures. MVP & Tricuspid Valve Prolapse. Rheumatic heart & lung. Previous Lymes Disease for 10 years.
Meds: Remicade infusions Q3 weeks; Intra-articular knee injections; Imuran; Mesalamine; Prednisone tapering from 120mg; Meclizine; Reglan; LidoDerm; Diazepam; Restaril; Dilaudid; Avinza and too many others. 


Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/11/2006 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Erin,
I have found Advil the best I have found so far.
Celebrex caused legs and ankle swelling.
Tnx, Fluffytwo

deb in indiana
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   Posted 12/17/2006 8:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Iam on celbrex 2 200mg a day ,zanaflex for spams,percet,i just had 3 injections in my shoulder ,one in hip ,and one at the sl for pain down the leg .i feel good today hardly no pain.How did your injections go ? Deb

Fluffytwo
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   Posted 12/17/2006 8:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Deb, shoulders much better. Pain at a level 4 instead of 10 in one shoulder. The other hardly any pain. Hope they last for a few months.
Glad your feeling better.

Fluffytwo
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