what do you take for joint pain?

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swans
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   Posted 3/20/2007 11:38 AM (GMT -7)   
hi, i have got crohns disease and just been told that i have RA aswell. Does anyone take anything that helps with the swelling and pain of the joints? I mean things i could buy over the counter untill i speak to my doctor again.
 
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sandie523
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   Posted 3/20/2007 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
  Hello there, well if your looking for somthing over the counter, the best thing for inflamation is Advil. Just make sure you eat something before you take it also if the pain is really bad you can take up to  4 tabs(which is 800mgs a prescription strength)three times a day. But you might just want to start out with 2 tabs and see if that works, or you can take Aleve, but it can only be one or the other since thier both anti-inflammatorys. Good luck with everything and dont worry the pain will get better once your on something.
 
 
 
          
 
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   Posted 3/20/2007 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
        Oh yeah since your probably on some meds already it would be a good idea to check with your pharmacist first to make sure the drugs dont interact with eachother.
 
  Sandie
 
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swans
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   Posted 3/20/2007 12:00 PM (GMT -7)   
ok, thank you. what about the things like fish oils,glucosamine and all the other herbal meds that they recommend? im on pred, azathiaprine and infliximab at the moment.

swans
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   Posted 3/20/2007 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
sorry... isnt is true that advil and other meds like it can trigger crohns and IBS?

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   Posted 3/20/2007 4:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Swans, all NSAIDs [nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs] which include, Advil, Motrin, aleve, etc., are generally on the "do not take" list for people with Crohn's. My GI told me not to take them ever and most of the members of our Crohn's forum have been told the same thing. Tylenol is about the only over the counter pain reliever that my GI allows. I have never tried any of the cremes formulated for arthritis so don't know if they work or not. If I have swelling, I tend to ice the area though I do find that heat helps me most. I'm don't have RA so am not sure which is recommended.

I hope you get into see your doctor soon so that you don't have to suffer much longer.
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Ducky
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   Posted 3/20/2007 4:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Swans.. Ides is right.. NSAIDS are a no-no if you have Crohn's, it can exacerbate your condition, lord knows you don't want more problems! :) When do you get to see your rheumy again? Have you tried ice and heat? The ice will help with the swelling.. I know I will ice my joints down for a while, then once the swelling has gone down a bit, I introduce heat.. good luck to you, let us know what you decide.. Take good care!

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lillise
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   Posted 3/21/2007 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   
i have heard that devils claw and rosehip are both good for reducing inflammation.  I ordered some and they arrived just after my infliximab had kicked in and taken the pain away so i haven't taken them myself but they have come highly recommended to me :o)  most vitamin sites sell them
Diagnosed with Crohn's start of 2002. Had 5 months of remission since diagnosis.  Tried lots of different meds, started on infliximab (remicade) Feb 07 had to jump thro hoops here in England to get it . So far so good...hooray!! The light at the end of the tunnel is on and i'm going for it!!
Diagnosed with AS feb 2007 but suffered for years


KodakPuppy
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   Posted 3/21/2007 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi All,
I hae digestive problems so can't take advil or any of those with asperin. I do aggree that when you start meds for the RA things will get better. Tylinal arthritis is ok if pain is not too bad.
Good luck
KodakPuppy

jpoucher
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   Posted 3/22/2007 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi,

My dad recently had a heart attack and was informed that he couldn't take anything more than tylenol for the pain.  nono   Well, unfortunately that wasn't helping much so he has tried some of the topical creams and I think he has had the most success with Lakota.


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swans
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   Posted 3/23/2007 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for all the answers. I have been to see my crohns doc and she said that untill they get all the results from my RA doctor, there isnt much they can do. All she said is that my white cell count is high but my crohns mark is 3. Normal is 1-10 so thats good....i think! I take 200mg of azathaprine per day. 15mg pred per day and remicade every 8 weeks and still cant get the swelling of my joints and the pain to go away! any ideas?
 
Also, does anyone else get swelling on the soles of their feet which makes it difficult to walk or random lumps on your head/forhead which come and go at any time?
 
Thank you.

Ducky
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   Posted 3/23/2007 5:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Have they thought about increasing your infusions to every 4 weeks or so? Maybe that would helps some?
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ledaebel
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   Posted 3/27/2007 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Swans,  I have Ulcerative colititis and arthritis.  This is my first time on the arthritis link.  I'm as confused as you.  I just got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in addition to Osteoarthritis.  My rheumi thinks it is a manifistation of the ulcerative colitis.  I take mobic 15mg daily and tylenol at night.  Additionally, I take tramadol 3x a day.  Nothing has eliminated or reduced significantly the pain and stiffness.  Sleeping is difficult.  Let me know if you find some treatments that work.
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swans
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   Posted 4/3/2007 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
i have just been to see my doctor again, he says now that he is not sure why my joints keep swelling and i get these lumps on my head, feet etc. He thinks it might be a reaction to remicade, anybody heard of this before? he thinks i should have the steroids injected into the joints. has anyone had this or got any information on it please?

SnowyLynne
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   Posted 4/24/2007 6:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a very high tolerance for pain & take Tylenol extra strength when I need it.............Have has to put my hands in very warm water to help the pain,or a hot shower for the rest of the joints.I could soak in the tub but then I'd need help getting up & Out.LOL.
SnowyLynne


doety
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   Posted 4/24/2007 8:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Did you see the studies that came out recently saying that Glucosamine/Condroiten doesn't work? I've tried it several times for months and thought it made no difference.
I'm lucky enough to have a swimming pool in our condo, with fairly warm water. When I get up and am in pain (okay, every day), I go down to the pool and swim and kick around for 20-30 minutes and I always feel better. While I'm in the pool, there is no pain.
I take Advil for the pain, and it certainly improves my outlook.
When I can't stand it, I get in the hot tub, although I think it's not great for your skin.
Also - I have tried the topical creams. The ones with pepper just about killed me, but I've got some "Jointritis" that seems to work. Terrible name, but it makes the pain stop in my back.

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   Posted 4/25/2007 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
dear Catmommy,
 
hi!  :-) i just wanted to write & let you know that i slightly edited one of your posts from above (not this last one the one before).
in the past, it has been advised to me that HW members display their email adress in their members profile (you can get there by going to the control panel above left)...spammers & peeps with ill intent can come across your email easier when it's displayed in a post.
(so that's why i put some spaces between the address, you can go ahead and re-edit as you wish)
just looking out for ya!
sincerely,
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senaid
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   Posted 5/8/2007 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
WOW! I thought this was all in my head!  I got my ulcerative proctitis to go into remission but I've been having pain in my finger joints. I told my husband who promptly said I was falling apart.  But I think the inflammation has just MOVED to another part of my body.  What about herbs for the immune system?  I feel like this is an autoimmune thing happening? Any other ideas?

Diagnosed with severe ulcerative proctitis - 2003.
 
Remission until late 2006,  just starting to see improvement due to the following:
 
 
Doing acupuncture.
 
I take Immunplex (multivitamin), Vit E, Fish Oil, Probiotic Eleven, Slippery Elm. Hydrocortisone
 
Just went in for allergy testing... allergic to cow's milk and shellfish (no outward symptoms of this at all).  I'm going to stop cow's milk for 1 month and see if my proctitis goes away. (I usually don't eat shellfish)


SnowyLynne
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   Posted 5/8/2007 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
The only thing I take for joint pain is extra strength tylenol.Pain meds make me feel bad & goofy.Don't  need that......
SnowyLynne


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   Posted 5/8/2007 6:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Ides and Ducky.That was one of the first thing's that my GI told me nothing but Tylenol.I hope that your Doctor can come up with something to help with your pain.I don't like having to take oral pain meds either.I am on Duragesic pain patches but I will say this you have to be opiate tolerant (sorry spelling)but I like them because it does not upset my stomach and I change them out every 72 hours and they don't make me feel goofy.
Curley
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blackwidow
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   Posted 5/9/2007 10:01 PM (GMT -7)   
My dad has had some success with Lakota.  His arthritis isn't that severe.  Topically - years ago I had limited success with unscented ben-gay - I have to be very careful a lot of OTC topicals have Euchlyptus - and I'm deadly allergic.  I've had PsA and AS for about 25 years which wern't properly diagnosed as PsA until about 6-7 yrs ago. By that time the damage was .. well .. just nasty ;)
 
I cycle arthrotec and celebrex (if I'm not mistaken that's not an option for chrons)and take copious amounts of T#4 and have a PNR script for additonal tylenol.  Other drug interaction prevent anything but tylenol... and I'd been afraid to see my stomach after 12 yrs of arthrotec tongue

Post Edited (blackwidow) : 5/9/2007 11:05:17 PM (GMT-6)


JS
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   Posted 5/10/2007 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   

I take Jointritis....the roll-on......great stuff....if you dont mind the smell of menthol :)

Jay

Post Edited By Moderator (Ducky) : 5/10/2007 7:33:58 PM (GMT-6)

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