shakey hands and lithium

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Mr.T
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   Posted 3/14/2008 4:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, it's been awhile, but I have a question for those taking lithium.  My hands started shaking about five days ago and has gotten to the point where I can barely write and have a real hard time just typing. I have been on the same dose for some time and have not had these problems.  I have been eating alot less and not getting good deep sleep. Very vivid dreams all night and wake up early.  I can handle that, but today my chest was real tight left side. Not shooting pain or pain down the arm just hurt to breath and move alot.  Made for a fun day at work. Is this a late reaction to the lithium?  Anyway, if anyone has any ideas let me know.  The only new medicine I am taking as well is a form of Zyban 300 mg a day. The rest is the same. Thanks in advance.
SSorry one more thing. I can't remember things within a minute after I was told or if someone interups I will have lost track of what I was saying.  Thanks again

Railey
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   Posted 3/14/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I think you should have your lithium level checked immediately.   I had similar symptoms when my blood level was too high.   Even though you're taking the same amount as before, there are many reasons why your level can still get too high.  Most concerning is your not being able to remember things from moment to moment.  The same thing happened to me when my lithium level became toxic.

Mr.T
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   Posted 3/14/2008 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for your advice. I will try to get in Monday.  There is only one hospital here that will do it and it takes a week for the results.  Should I continue on a lower dosage and see if the levels drop or do I stop. It seems like that would be a long time off of it and wonder what the effects of that would be.  By the way I live in Thailand so nothing is ever that simple to do or easy to understand at the doctors.Plus you always have to go to the hospital because there are no clinics or GP's not sure what you call it, but a doctors office.  Anyway, Thanks again and we'll see how things go.

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   Posted 3/14/2008 9:59 PM (GMT -7)   

mrt.

your symptoms sound very familiar.  my wife sometimes goes crazzy because i suffer from crs (can't remember crap).  My hands have become so shaky at times that i literrally coudn't eat whole kernal corn with a fork - i had to use a knife - or was that a spoon?  :-)    if you don't laugh at these crazy side effects you will DEFINITELY go nuts.

 

DO NOT go off the lithium without medical supervision.  I have heard some real horror stories of people freaking out with fluctuating lithium levels.  one of my drs HATES lithium because of all of its interactions and side effects.  you prpbably have about a week or so of lithium in your system if you've been taki9ng it for a while - but the body gets rid of excess daily anyway.  that last statgement didn't make a lot of sence to me, either.

get off lithium?  my pdoc took me off of it about 2 weeks ago and my mood swings are legandary already.  my wife siked the cat on me this morning because i was too anxious.  and her's an attack cat, too.  goes for the shoelaces, you know.

if you want to get off of lithium - or just change your medicine around because your current cocktail isn't doing it that well anymore (it happens to all of us) by all means do so - but with the help and support of your medical advisor.  bp isn't really a disease to fool around with too much.  as a matter of fact, i don't find anything about this pesky chemical imballance at all funny.  in Thailand you may be at a big diaadv antasge in terms of available competent assistance.  like all of us, though, you'll just have to do your best - as you have been doing.

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serafena
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   Posted 3/15/2008 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm with Warren, Mr. T. Don't lower your dosage on your own. You don't know if you're toxic or if it's your new drug causing the side effects, so get checked first. I'm sorry to hear your struggling with new side effects though, one way or another it's no fun.
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Mr.T
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   Posted 3/15/2008 7:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks guys for your input.  i Will keep on the same meds until I see my doctor.  This is so annoying and embarrasing.  I put a business dinner off on Friday, but they insisted on meeting Sat. for dinner.  I couldn't even pick up my drink without 2 hands and I was still shaking and trying to eat was very difficult.  They asked me if I was shaking because of a hangover or  are you ill?  I told them I started a new blood pressure medicine and that waas causing the shakes.  What could I do.  It was bad, but I can't lose this deal. I had to really concentrate so tthat I would not forget most of what they were saying.  Anyway I did make it through the evening and hopefully all will go well.  Whatever it is is also still affecting my sleep, very vivid dreams and up and down all night.  I guess at least the boogy man will not get me because more than likely I'll be up.  Thanks again everyone

nev
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   Posted 3/15/2008 9:02 PM (GMT -7)   
As others have stated, definately get the Lithium checked.
 
It is quite possible the  Zyban has changed how your body processes the Lithium.  Shoot, aspirin can throw off a medications potency.
 
I have read your posts before and it sure seems like you are on top of things, you really work hard to stay stable.  What a guy, good job.
 
-nev

olivia of course
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   Posted 3/16/2008 10:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Jery,

Wow it has been a long time. As the people above has stated do not lower your dose without medical guidance. You never know how it will affect your mood.

Also, I would definitely get my levels checked, the only time I had the shakes real bad was when I had toxicity. I was on 900mg for over a year, but when another med was added my levels were up to 1.7. Right now I can't take more than 750mg of Lithium a day. Also the brand of Lithium you are taking might also be the trigger. Each brand comes with it's own side effects.

But I am definetly with the others on the toxicity stuff. You don't want to have that too many times, for it can cause liver problems, thyroid, and others.

Please have it checked out.
Olivia
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Mr.T
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   Posted 3/16/2008 5:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes Olivia it has been a long time and Nev you are right I do try to keep on top of things.  It's much more difficult here.  Anyway,  I thought that if you had toxicity it would be more noticeable? It just seems odd that shaky hands and bad sleep could be caused by that, but I will get it checked out this week, I can't stand it and now have to have my assistant write down everthing for business. Not good. Anyway, it was nice hearing from you again Olivia. I hope all is well with you.  Have a good day everyone.

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   Posted 3/17/2008 2:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mr T.
 
I was just thinking about you last week and how we haven't heard from you in a long time. I normally don't post to you since I am not familiar with Lithium, but I do read your posts anyway.
 
I'm sorry to hear the news you shared though. I just want you to know that I hope everything works out well for you. Please keep us posted. sad
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Mr.T
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   Posted 3/17/2008 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello Sukay,

Thank you very much for the kind words.  It had been a long time since I was on.  I really do need to stay connected because this is the only place I can open up and not be put down.  It's nnice everyone has experienced one thing or another and what may seem like nothing can mean the world to someone else, even just a note like yours. That means alot.

I wish that everyone would realize that this world is not so big and we are not so different. This message board proves that.

I am scheduled for Thursday so hopefully I can get my shakes out of my system.

I hope everyone has a good day  if not today then hopefully tomorrow.

 


daisha
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   Posted 3/18/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Mr. T
I am on lithum also and I certainly understand your problems.  I have a hard time taking mine and as you might be aware if not taken correctly it can be a roller coaster ride. I have pains in my left side of my body as well not like major hurting but a funny pulsing feeling. Usually when I tell my doc this he will tell me to get my lithum level checked.  Hope all works out for you.
 
Daisha

Mr.T
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   Posted 3/19/2008 11:55 PM (GMT -7)   
well, I went to my doctor today and he didn't know what was causing the shakes and chest pain so he ordered blood tests for tomorrow.  He gace me a beta blocker to help with the shakes.  I hope that works. I don't know what else to do but wait it out and hope we find out whats wrong. Anyway, thanks for the support.  I guess I will not hear anything til next week.

olivia of course
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   Posted 3/20/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Jery,

I am glad that you finally went to the pdoc. Beta blockers usually help with the shaking, but I do not know how long they take to work. Please let us know how things progress.

Olivia :-)
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   Posted 3/20/2008 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
((((hugs)))) Hang in there.

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Mr.T
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   Posted 3/21/2008 5:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks.
I didn't make it to the doctor because of work issues but re scheduled for tomorrow and will give them my blood.  He said a few days and we will know.  My chest has really been acting up today.  Not sure why.  Something is doing something to me.  I feel REALLY STRANGE.  The meds did help the shaking for the most part.  Not near as bad.  I good thing.  Anyway, I hope that everyone has a wonderful Easter.  I'll be working, but will do my best to celebrate later.  All but Easter dinner.  Can't win them all. Enjoy and make it a really happy day.

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   Posted 3/21/2008 9:05 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Mr. T,

I'm glad that you're feeling some improvement. I hope it gets better for you each day. I'll be waiting to hear about your lab results. I too want them to get to the bottom of why all of this is happening to you.

Will keep you in my thoughts!


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   Posted 3/23/2008 11:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Jery,

I am also glad there there are improvements in your condition. I hope your lab results will reveal what is the matter. Will be waiting to hear back about them.

Olivia
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