just found I have bipolar disorder

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Ne Ne
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   Posted 5/6/2008 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
eyes I'm usually on the crohn's site..... But today I went to the therapist, and was told I have bipolar disorder..... I'm not sure about all of this... I know I have a problem, I knew I needed help, and I've had to talk to people before but no one ever gave it a name... Do they give drugs for this or is it just talking, I was on something before but she never said.....Doe's anyone have crohn's and this ????and does the drugs mess with the crohn's??????? I have a hard time trying to explain to my family,what I keep feeling... It don't make any since to them... so I cry.... I've cussed out my reg doctor and his nurse, twice now, because they made stupid statements to me.... I need a new reg doctor but here where I live I'm having a hard time finding one...So that adds to my frustration, Just really wanted to say HI




Ne Ne yeah
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Dx June 07 crohn's take asacol 2x3 a day , entcort 1 a day ,lotrel for HBP , omeprezole for stomach , potassium , ond day crohn's & colitis therapy , calcium & Vit D , lomotil for lose stools , tramadol for pain , started humira in Feb 08


serafena
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   Posted 5/6/2008 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ne Ne,

Welcome to the bipolar board. Your first stop needs to be a psychiatrist -- not just a therapist. There most certainly are drugs for bipolar, it's the first line of defense. You need a complete diagnosis and a medication evaluation. Also, there are people on this board with Crohn's and bp, just give them a little time to catch up with you. I couldn't say whether the drugs interact or not.

It is very hard to talk to family and friends about. You might try reading a couple of books which are designed for patients and their families. That will give you some starting places. One I like is "The Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide" by David Miklowitz.

Hope this is helpful,

Serafena
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Ne Ne
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   Posted 5/7/2008 9:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I thought that if you went to a therapist they would send me to see a psychiatrist, if thats what I really needed???? confused I've had problems in the past, and I've been on drugs for it to.... I'm so confused about all of this.. I read on line that if your bipolar you never get rid of it... So when do I see the psychiatrist????? sad I just want this to all go away.... I've lost my life and I can't seem to get it back....I feel so out of control, Its been such a long road to get someone to figure out I have crohn's now I have to figure out this to....life really SUCKS....I knew getting older wasn't going to be fun, but I didn't think it would all hit it once....My head is going in circles,its hard to take it all in... I have so much going on with my crohn's, no doctor I can trust, and now this.....



Ne Ne
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Dx June 07 crohn's take asacol 2x3 a day , entcort 1 a day ,lotrel for HBP , omeprezole for stomach , potassium , ond day crohn's & colitis therapy , calcium & Vit D , lomotil for lose stools , tramadol for pain , started humira in Feb 08


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   Posted 5/7/2008 10:00 AM (GMT -7)   
A therapist cannot prescribe you drugs, but they do therapy. A psychiatrist can prescribe you drug but they usually do not do therapy. You will need to see a psychiatrist to monitor your meds. You did get get a double wammie here with crohns and bipolar and so thinking about therapy for find ways to help during this adjustment is a good thing as well. I think a therapist and a psychiatrist will be good right now to help you adjust to big life change. The good news is that some of the meds for bipolar have some side effects that will help with the crohns symptoms (like you might not need your lomotil as much).
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serafena
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   Posted 5/7/2008 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
MMMNAVY's right, Ne Ne, It is a lot to take in at once which is why it is all the more important that you put together a team of people to help you deal with the bipolar. Many of us on this board have both a psychiatrist and a therapist. I'm not sure why your therapist didn't recommend you call a psychiatrist for an evaluation, but that's the next step in a diagnosis like bipolar. (Truly, your therapist shouldn't be diagnosing you, only a doc is supposed to do that.) So finding the psych falls to you. Does your insurance cover mental health visits. (I bet it does). Find out who's covered and make an appointment, but be warned, sometimes you have to wait weeks to get in and see a psych for the first time. After the first time it's easier but the first appointment you'll have to wait and wait for. I don't know why that is.

It's true that bipolar is a lifelong condition, but with medication it's manageable. You'll always have ups and downs, but the meds help take the edge off and make things more moderate and stable. Your therapist helps you work through times like these when you're feeling overwhelmed and confused. Keep us posted as things progress.
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   Posted 5/7/2008 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello & Welcome NeNe,
 
I have crohns disease and bi-polar also. To me it's pretty obvious to recognize the signs of bi-polar. I understand your therapist has labeled you as having bi-polar. Some doctors do give medications for it, like you said some have in the past. But the "Specialist" doctor that needs to handle your diagnosis is a Psychiatrist. Just like when you have crohns disease, you don't get treated from your family doctor, you should be getting your treatment from a gastroenterologist. The specialist that you need to see for your symptoms is a Psychiatrist for sure! 
 
You should start with calling your therapist and ask for a reference for a Psychiatrist and make an appointment as soon as possible. Some doctors try to give medications for this on their own and that is not good. So ask your therapist for a reference to the proper doctor to handle your condition for a complete evaluation for a proper diagnosis. I'm very surprised that she hasn't done that for you since she was the one that labeled you with bi-polar, so that sounds fishy to me. If she doesn't do this for you, you need to find another therapist to work with. You can also call your regular doctor to ask for referrals to psychiatrists in your area. And absolutely YES, if you are properly diagnosed with bi-polar you will need to be on medications for it for life. But don't get discouraged. It will help you in the long run to get out of all of your mood swings. We'll be here to support you along the way. Things will get better for you.
 
You should also stay in therapy because it goes hand in hand with a healthy bi-polar treatment plan, along with lots of support from your family/friends/support groups. Again your therapist or psychiatrist can lead you to support groups in your area. Also as serafena has suggested, reading up on bi-polar is very good. The book she mentioned is excellent. I would encourage you to ask your family to read it as well so that they can better understand what you are going through and understand why their support is so very important.
 
As MMMNavy has said, some bi-polar meds will help with your crohns. I have always had problems when my gastroenterologist had to put me on steriods (which is a hell of a drug by itself) mixed with my mood stabilizers for bi-polar. It would throw my moods all over the place big time. That and Entocort. But you will learn as you go how to make the best of these situations when they come upon you. You will always have to keep in close contact with your Psychiatrist anyway because adjusting your medications is very crucile, especially during times when they start to mess with your crohns meds, if that were to happen for you. That is why therapy is also a good idea. Managing both of these illnesses can be very hard to cope with.
 
I hope some of this info has been helpful for you. Continue to post as we are always willing to work together.
 
Best wishes.
~sukay~
Diagnosed Bipolar - August 2004
     Crohns disease - 1995 
Arthritis & Fibromyalgia 
 
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Ne Ne
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   Posted 5/7/2008 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Sukay, I want to thank you for your comments it is helpful to know someone who's been there... The place where I go to the therapist, also has a psychiatrist, so I figure after a time or two He will on my the list...I know I will have to have something for the mood swing... I cry at the drop of a hat... and my adrenal gland is not working right either... But my reg doctor is a but head ...I'm looking for a new one as we speak... He's still on if something happens but, I have no trust in him anymore...Its so funny my GI told me to find a new doctor....He's been a little put out by my reg doctor...But here where I live its hard to get a new doctor, theres not a lot to pick from...I'm still confused about the bipolar diagnoses.... I did some reading and it does sound like me.... and don't worry I will keep posting because at least you all understand.... I don't think I'm going to get much understanding from my family....



Ne Ne
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Dx June 07 crohn's take asacol 2x3 a day , entcort 1 a day ,lotrel for HBP , omeprezole for stomach , potassium , ond day crohn's & colitis therapy , calcium & Vit D , lomotil for lose stools , tramadol for pain , started humira in Feb 08


sukay
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   Posted 5/7/2008 9:35 PM (GMT -7)   

Ne Ne,

I understand your confusion about how the diagnosis of bi-polar was given. What is stopping you from making an appointment with the psychiatrist yourself? You should do that a.s.a.p.

Keep us posted.

 


~sukay~
Diagnosed Bipolar - August 2004
     Crohns disease - 1995 
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Ne Ne
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   Posted 5/7/2008 10:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I go back on the 14th and I figured I'd talk about it then..She said I would be going a lot, that I had a lot to work through...I don't think she to far off... eyes I can make it through my days OK but out of the blue I just start crying...I know I've lost control because of the crohn's.. Its been a long road for me... So many tests, in and out of the hospital....I don't handle not having complete control, And with crohn's I have had no control... My regular doctor is a real a....Because I dared to question him, and asked to many question, and I voiced my opinion, He suggested I go see a therapist... He does not really want to treat me.... I've lost the person and I'm just a patient...I know I needed to get help,but I didn't need his in put...He's stopped treating me... He won't treat the crohn's or anything that could come close to it...I got so dehydrated I was in the hospital for 6 days and they put 13 bags of IV's in me....He put off putting me in the hospital and told me to just drink more gatorade...I went back a day or so later I could hardly walk by then ,and he then put me in the hospital....and while I was in there I got C-deff.... I had so much fun...but while in the hospital I only saw him I think twice he had other doctors come in and treat me.... confusedI wonder who is my doctor from time ,to time I see more of other doctor's than I do him....I know he's the reason I snapped this time...At times I would love nothing better than to make him feel the way he makes me feel...So you see I think the therapist hit the nail on the head when she said I was bipolar... yeah yeah I'll keep writing because here I feel I'm not alone...Most days here at my house no one understands me or how I feel and I have to tip-toe around everyone...I told my husband I thought about suicide and he yelled at me,because he could not understand why I would even think like that it was so stupid... So My kids think I mad or something if I don't keep a smile, so if I'm feeling sad I go sit in my room alone...I don't blame them cause they don't understand me ,cause most of the time I don't understand...




Ne Ne

sorry for ranting it gets in my head and I just get it out eyes
49 Female
Dx June 07 crohn's take asacol 2x3 a day , entcort 1 a day ,lotrel for HBP , omeprezole for stomach , potassium , ond day crohn's & colitis therapy , calcium & Vit D , lomotil for lose stools , tramadol for pain , started humira in Feb 08


sukay
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   Posted 5/7/2008 11:11 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi NeNe,

I just read another post of yours from the crohns board. You mentioned in that post that this was your first time with a therapist. You also just mentioned in this last post that your therapist said, "I would be going a lot, that I had a lot to work through".

Make sure you let her know that you want a proper diagnosis with the pyschiatrist that is on staff there.

Also be very honest with your therapist and tell her exactly how you are feeling at home. If you feel you need to see her sooner than your next scheduled appointment, give her a call and ask if she can fit you in.

As far as your other doctor, kick him to the curb. You said, (either on this forum or the crohns forum) there are other doctors to choose from in your group  and I would hope that any other doctor you pick out will be better than this quack!!!

Good luck.


serafena
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   Posted 5/8/2008 8:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Ne Ne,

It's going to take your husband a while to learn about the disorder too, so be patient with him. Try to share with him what you learn, when you learn it. If he's up for it, ask him to read the same books you read, or even better, ask him to come to the psychiatrist visit with you. That way he'll hear first hand what's going on, he can ask questions, he'll have it from an authority so he can't question your information. It's REALLY helpful to try and bring your husband on board as part of your support team. You need all the support you can get right now, and he loves you and wants you to be well. Asking him to help you instead of resisting your diagnosis isn't such a stretch. Sit him down and give him concrete ways he can help. He probably feels helpless and confused, and that's making him frustrated and angry.

serafena
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Ne Ne
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   Posted 5/8/2008 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
I keep going back and forth from crohn's to here, because I started in the crohn's forum.... I hope I don't need to call and talk before my next visit... I started a journal so when I get upset I just start writing how I feel...It might not make to much since but, it makes me feel better.... I started it about 6 months ago....I've been feeling bad for awhile, But I've been playing the big denial game in my head....For most of my life I've been the one who has to do very thing, everyone always came to me, I'm suppose to have all the answers....Its hard for me to keep thing straight in my head now so, I either have to make lists or do it right when I think about it...My family has a hard time,and I told my husband he had to step up to the plate and start doing some of the stuff.... The last time I had problems my Mother was alive and lived with me... She would deal with the kid when I couldn't,so they don't remember much of it....I sat on my couch for almost 2 months, and took hot wax and rolled it into little balls...So talking to the therapist, I told her about this..I knew the last time I had problems, and I knew this time to....I knew it was just time to seek help.....


Ne Ne
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Dx June 07 crohn's take asacol 2x3 a day , entcort 1 a day ,lotrel for HBP , omeprezole for stomach , potassium , one a day crohn's & colitis therapy , calcium & Vit D , lomotil for lose stools , tramadol for pain , started humira in Feb 08

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