Drinking and Meds.

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sukay
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   Posted 8/26/2004 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
cool  In all seriousness, can you occasionally have a few drinks or more with the medications that they treat us for like bipolar. I am on depakote and xanax..... was just curious.
 
Sukay

Phyllis0326
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   Posted 8/30/2004 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi I am on meds for bipolar and occasionally I do have a few drinks.  Sometimes the alcohol does not have any effect but most times it really kicks in with the meds and kicks my butt, especially with the xanax.  I used to take Depakote but it had a side effect on my kidney function.  Talk to your dr. about it as well but I don't think a couple of drinks will hurt as long as it's not a everyday thing.
 
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odettesmom
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   Posted 9/9/2004 5:15 AM (GMT -7)   
beware hard liquor! had two one night and my body went totally crazy/sick/pain. have been okay with a very small glass of wine once in a while. i sit by someone i know at baseball games or parties so i can grab a sip or two of beer. otherwise, i stay clear but could just be hard liquor that does it.

clrk131313
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   Posted 9/15/2004 12:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, xanax should certainly never be taken with alcohol as a general rule. The alcohol affects the same neuronal receptor the benzos (like xanax) hit. They don't have an additive effect, but act synergistically, meaning they enhance each other's effect. 1 xanax + 1 beer becomes 1 XANAX +1 BEER. When we talk about 1 to 1, most people will not die or have severe detrimental effects, but that doesn't work for everyone and it is definitely safest to never mix the two.

songster
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   Posted 10/14/2004 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow. Anyone who has the guts to drink while on all these drugs has more nerve than I. I've been stable for about 6 months now and wouldn't trade real life for any drug high, including alcohol. Just my two cents.

sukay
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   Posted 10/19/2004 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear songster,
 
So glad to hear that you have been feeling so good for the last 6 months.
 
It's not that I have the nerve to drink, I am just ignorant and was asking in all seriousness. I am new to this bipolar crap and wanted some advise from people who have been there.
 
Obviously, I am not where you are at with your condition. It still hasn't sunk into my head yet. I was only diagnosed a few months ago. I am not stablized yet on my medications and sometimes the alcohol just gets me to where I need to be... to either just chill out or be happy, depending on which mood I am in.
 
Sounds like you think I am a real idiot. At least that is how you came across to me.
 
Sincerely, Sukay

Phyllis0326
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   Posted 10/26/2004 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sukay, I don't think that person thinks you are ignorant but is saying they are too afraid to try a few drinks on top of their meds themselves.  You have a valid question and I am sure alot of people were wondering the same thing, you are the only one however to actually have the nerve to come on here and ask.  I am glad you did.  I do have one point that should be taken into consideration in that if you do have a few drinks, do it at home so you don't have to drive, especially until you know how the alcohol mixes with your meds. (Actually you should not drive and drink at all), but I bowl and usually have one beer a game and make sure I don't take my Xanax that day but I do take my other meds as prescribed.  I have found the alcohol does not have much affect with my other meds but I found out at home before going out first.

Good luck with learning how do deal, it can get rough at times.  Don't feel funny about any question you have, there are other people out there with the same thing and probaly the same questions, but are nervous about asking on the board so ASK AWAY.

 

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sukay
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   Posted 10/26/2004 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
:-)  
Thank you Phillyis,
 
I appreciate your sincerity in answering my question. I know that any pharmasict or doctor would tell you to never mix any medication with alcohol, but we know that sometimes some of us do and are able to handle it.
 
I was just not familiar yet with the Bipolar medications and that was why I posted that questions on that board. I wanted to hear from people who have been there and know.
 
I also know that meds and alcohol react differently on people, but I was just curious how many people have done it and how it went for them.
 
I occassionally have a few drinks and a few times I have gone overboard and I am now learning what my limitations are.
 
Thank you again, for YOUR HONESTY TOO!
Sincerely,
Sukay

SpaceyCase
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   Posted 10/26/2004 6:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I think drinking on these meds is about two categories: the chemistry of it and the psychology of it. Some people feel they can't psychologically handle alcohol with their illness or after reaching a finally stable place, and that is totally understandable I think. I think this is the aspect of it that Songster was talking about. Not everyone handles alcohol the same.

The chemistry of it is a different matter. If one truly feels stable and comfortable enough to have the occasional drink, that is their choice. But their question should then be how the alcohol and meds will react to each other. Of course that depends on the med, but in general the answer is just BE CAREFUL. Psychotropic medications tend to increase the effects of alcohol, so one should naturally not overdo it.

So thats my view :) If your psyche can handle drinking, ok, just do it in small amounts to account for your meds.

-Em

songster
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   Posted 11/4/2004 10:42 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi, Sukay, I'm sorry if I upset you. I don't think you're an idiot. It took me 25 years for this stuff to sink in, so I'm certainly not in a position to judge.

But I'm off this board for awhile. I realize how sharp I can be and I don't want to spike anyone who's down. Also, since I have breast cancer(!!!), I'll be hanging out on that board until I beat yet another life monster.

ciao, Songster 

 


sukay
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   Posted 11/4/2004 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
cool  
 
Dear Songster,
 
Thank you for your reply.
I guess I misinterpreted what you were trying to say to me in responding to my post.
 Since being diagnosed with Bipolar I am always on the defensive side.
So I guess I need to apologize to you also.
I took what you said the wrong way.
 
I am so sorry to hear you have
breast cancer. I hope the new board that
you will be going to will be just as
supportive as this one is.
 
I wish you well. May you find peace and stength to help get through this difficult time of your life.
God bless, '''
Sukay
 
P.S. Stop in once in a while and keep us posted how things aregoing for you.

YingYang
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   Posted 11/15/2004 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
im responding to the question as to which we can drink or not. i have found that i cant drink anymore that im on the medication lamictal. it makes me seiously sick. i've tried twice, once was having a mixed drink, two of them, and the second time was having three beers and both times i became very very sick. talking projectile vomiting and stomach pains. before i was on lamictal and was on numerous other meds i was able to handle the alcohol. i think it just depends on what medication your on. i also dont belive in drinking on meds so i am done. i had one doctor tell me that if i knew i was going to be someplace that i might have a drink. to stop the medication for 24 hours before, but resume them once the night is over, like the next day. im really on the fence about mixing. but i know as long as im on lamictal i wont be drinking.

sukay
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   Posted 11/15/2004 10:38 AM (GMT -7)   
sad  
 
Hey Ying Yang,
 
Wow, that is really something how the drinking didn't affect your other meds too much, but how intensely it affects you with taking Lamictal.
 
I have had a few drinks while on Lamictal and I am on 100 mg twice daily and have had no side effects from it besides the little high that I look for.
 
It just goes to show that different meds affect people in different ways. I don't know if that  makes it fortunate/unfortunate for me that I am still able to enjoy a few drinks and that one day it may catch up with me or that it is unfortuanate for you that you are now unable to enjoy a few drinks.
 
Wow! I can't believe your doctor told you that if you were to drink to stop all the meds at least for 24 hours prior to drinking then to resume the meds the next day! My doctor told me to consistantly take my meds and really try not to miss any doses. That that would throw me off more.
 
I guess each doctor has their own opinions as well. Although I haven't spoken a word to my doctor that I do have occassional drinks once in while, because I am sure he would discourage me from it. But I guess I am daring or stupid and took the risk of trying it out for myself. I just started with little and gradually increased so I would know what and how much would affect me.
 
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. It is good to hear and learn from other peoples experiences.
 
Sincerely,
Sukay

swingman
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   Posted 12/18/2004 1:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I dont touch booze because it not only makes me feel like crap but it triggers nasty horrible things with this bipolar crap I have.  When I was on lithium and trazadone I could drink till the cows came home and I could keep going.  When it comes to meds and are illness I have come to learn that booze and this crap does not mix.  Even a couple of beers can set me off into a horrible but short lived depression that makes me wish I was dead.  In all seriousness I think Manic Depression, medications, and booze are like mixing gun powder and gasoline over a open fire.  You just dont do it mix those things together.  Then again this is just my opinion for whatever that is worth and I am sure certain people react differently.

try2bhappy
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   Posted 1/14/2005 9:42 AM (GMT -7)   
It sounds to me like you want to self medicate yourself. That is one good way. Smoking pot is another. So why don't you all just have a party?You all have a serious illness, which you are on medication for. It is not a game . grow up. it does not take a rocket scientist to know alcohol and medications do not mix.

jacqueline
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   Posted 1/18/2005 2:16 PM (GMT -7)   
people please be calm  drinking doesnt mix with anything  i friend of mine is dead from mixing a few beers with a med  if you see what happens hopefullly youll wake up the next day  if drinking means that much to you try MICA mentally ill with chemical addictions, its around everywhere now  well anyways it saved me when i thought i should keep drinking after being diagonosed  good luck and try other options other than drinking

try2bhappy
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   Posted 1/18/2005 3:14 PM (GMT -7)   
jacqueline,
I am sorry about your friend. I did not mean to sound so abrupt. My husband is Bipolar and takes meds. I have epilepsy but visit this forum sometimes. It just scares me when people take very serious meds. and then try to talk there way into drinking. I am sorry if any of you thought I was rude. Mary

jacqueline
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   Posted 1/18/2005 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   
mary you werent really rude for me but for someone new to everything maybe if you had said that to me 11 years ago i probably just would of kept on drinking and made the situation worse like i did  im really opposed to drinking all together now thank god  anyone with any life threatening illness beware of alcohol especially mental illness  it confuses you to how you really feel  alters medication reactions   leaves you open to bad decision making  and god only knows what its doing to your insides  i could go on   please be careful  look at a sunset

psychnurse
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   Posted 3/29/2005 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I used to be an alchoholic (self medicating) and it made me feel great - for a few hours. Then always the depression set in. Even just a glass or two of wine. It made at least me, more depressed. It is a depressant, after all!

I got clean 4 years ago, and got straight with meds. Haven't even wanted to touch one since. There is no feeling better than being stable. Maybe if you got on the right cocktail, you would realize that, and you wouldn't want to mess it up with drinks. (Even occasional)
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