Hey, Nickie! So glad you're going to try welbutrin. The XL is the once a day, it's expensive. If you get the SR you can get it generically, but only in the 100 mg tablets. Weird, I know. Usual starting dose is 150 mg once a day, then in a week or so, 150 mg twice a day, so if he writes you for 300 mg a day, there you go. You can take up to 400 mg a day.
Since you are on Topamax, you probably won't have any problem with mania, but do start on the 150 mg a day first; it's not recommended to start on a high dose.
There is no difference between XL and SR; only that the SR is twice a day and the XL is once.
If you have a weight problem, you will probably find you don't have a big appetite with welbutrin. It also makes substances less appealing, haha.
I will look into your subject matter; I'm the Google queen!
Hey hot chicks, I am 27, very close to 28. I hope I look 23, ha ha.I live in the great lakes state , Michigan. about 20 minutes from Ohio. Patti, I had to get off that effexor it made me feel crazy and manic even having suicidal thoughts to the extreme. This wasn't that long ago either. How you felt on the topomax is how I felt on the effexor.Shannon, the doc started me out 150 mg a day, still have to go and get it from the pharmacy, it's just been so hectic. I don't know if I mentioned that he increased my topomax to 200mg, and I said ok, BUT I won't increase it anymore due to the possible cognitve slowing side effects that could occur. I have been lucky I guess. With school that would tend to be a real issue. Well I will talk to you all soon!!!
From one hot chick to two others!!! LOL
Hi, Nickie - I am so glad you're going to try it, I sure hope it works for you. By itself it didn't do the whole job for me, that's when she added Lamictal, then it was good. I was on 400 mg a day, now I take 300.
How are you both doing today? I hope you're well.
I hurt my neck really bad and I couldn't move the other night, and I had a freaking panic attack! 15 minutes of hyperventilating and freaking out! Well, I was lying down and the pain was so bad I couldn't even roll over, much less get up. (Don't ask how, er, you can probably guess, hehe), anyhoo that was the first time Paul ever saw me have one and he was trying to help me breath slower and stroking my back, but if you ever had one, you know that's impossible. Bless his heart. I couldn't think or talk and he finally remembered I said before breathing into a paper bag helps, so he got me one, and by God it did!
OMG Nickie, me too! A couple of years ago me and my friend were going riding, and we had to haul our horses to this riding trail. Well, I didn't know there would be a MAJOR long, high up bridge to cross! I started panicking and I had to stop becuase I couldn't drive. My friend had to take over. I didn't even know I had a phobia of bridges, but now I do! I wonder how many BPs are crowd phobic. There's this test you can take that tests you for several personality disorders, it's really interesting, and I had fairly high marks in avoidant personality, among others, I ashamed to say. Seems like everybody (BPs) has that same problem.
Well, I'm glad you get to kick back for a couple of days and spend time with your daughter. I'm so sorry she gets pushed around. She sounds absolutely precious. I swear most kids are bred to be monsters these days! Where are their parents??????
Have a good one!
Hi ladies. Happy time off Nickie! You both sound so good. That makes me happy Unfortunately it has been a nightmare for me these past few days. Just feeling sorry for myself. Wow, a Mall, a bridge you guys have lives? Must be nice! My husband and I are having problems and are thinking of splitting. I really dont think anything else could happen to me. You are so right Shannon, I need help BIG TIME. Just dont know where to start. I have no faith left. I am Epileptic, BP, Colitis, Anemic, (Infertile..I think this is the most hurtful) and the list continues. These steroids I am on for my colitis keep me up all night, finally go to sleep around 5:00am and then sleep helf the day. I just want to get out "there". I want to be a member of society instead of my bed and my laptop. The last pdoc i went to told me I had too much on my plate and to come back when those things (that was when I did the failed in vitros) were sorted out. So, I figured I could get through it (I wasnt always a weak piece of crap). WRONG!! Biggest mistake of my life was to not seek further help. My whole family (The ones in Ohio) has stopped talking to me. They tell me to stop whining, You dont know how lucky you are! Your husband is a Doctor (big deal) you have endless spending, etc. Well, guess what...when u dont have a life or ever leave the house, what the hec good dos the money do, except pay for my meds and insurance!!!! I have no friends (local). My sister and my neice were my life (being that my husband is never around, cant blame him I hate me too) until a couple weeks ago they went to Ohio and I got mad at my sister. They (her husband and her) didnt want me to join them there which would have been so good for me. She didnt say so..but I know she didnt want me to join them up there as when Patti is around, there is always an argument. See they dont understand that I hate me more than they do! And, I WISH it didnt have to be that way. They refuse to believe it is a disease not a choice, which is why they hate me, because they think it is my choice to be or not to be a b*t*h. That is all I ever do is either get mad or cry. So, I have no one to blame but myself that I am alone and sick. As soon as I open my eyes in the a.m. I start to cry. You guys I dont think that is the way it is supposed to be. I hate myself so bad. I havent had a mani/pedi, wax or hair color for weeks. I used to NEVER be that way. And even tho my family and now my husband have given up on me, I still am too weak to end this pain, I want to so bad, but I am afraid of the afterlife.. I try to live by "It will get better", then something else bad happens. "Tomorrow is another day", but in my world the feelings are always the same, they never change to "a good day" it is the same day. I know I am the only one that can help me, but can u direct me on how to find a good pdoc?
OMG Patti, NO! I am not annoyed with you! And I have been where you are before, I have had all that happen at some point! You only know the "stable" me; I was sick my whole life until last year. And I have lost plenty of relationships, friends, family, men because of it. I didn't even realize how much at fault I was until I did get well, for lack of a better word, right? But that's what I meant by saying when you get back in your right mind, your loved ones will almost always welcome you back gladly!
Sometimes, since voice inflection doesn't come across in text, it might look like I'm being mean. I dont mean to sound that way, I give lots of people the reality check, but it sounds better in person than on paper, I guess, as some of what I say is tongue in cheek. It's hard to explain. If I didn't care, or was tired of you, etc. Would I take the time and effort to write you? To try to help you see what you aren't able to see in your state right now? Thats what I am trying to do, abeit in a rather blunt way, I'm sorry for that, it's my personality. Hey, I did read recently that BPs are blunt! I think we even mentioned it here before. Anyhoo, I do care, I did try to make that evident in saying you always have us to talk to, we care and we can try to help. I think some of that is your state of mind; depression always makes us see only the dark things.
Please don't be hurt; it wasn't meant to be like that, only to help and also to give you some hope that it CAN be done. I think you're awesome because you haven't done the "deed". That shows you have strength right there.
Please accept my apology, I sure didn't mean to come across the way you thought, OK?
Hi, Patti, how are you doing today?
You didn't respond to my last post, so I take it you're mad at me, or still hurt? I'm worried. I really want to be friends with everyone, and I am so sorry that I sounded the way i did, it wasn't my intention. I get very passionate (another trait BPs usually don't ever lose, along with bluntness, haha) about trying to help people. In my experience of talking to patients about it (never had any bipolar friends before), lots of times a really blunt, cards on the table approach, (but not with any anger or annoyance intended) would work, at least give them some hope and incentive to try harder. That's what I was trying to acccomplish with you. Like I said, if I didn't care, I wouldn't taken the time away from my husband (I never really do any posts anywhere on weekends, as he has asked me not to) to respond to your post. And it took about 25 minutes to do that one. So I guess I don't care? Hmmmmmm. Not!
I really wish you would respond today, I would like to hear from you, OK?
Oh, Nickie I forgot to say to you, thank you for trying to decipher what I was saying, you say it better. I wish I had your style of talking (or writing as the case may be). Oh, well. Just chalk it up to another one of my faults, I have a looooonnnnnnggggg list.
You guys' posts made me cry - in a good way. It's so nice to have people that you can talk to that completely understand what's going on, why we're reckless and take chances that could kill us (I am surprised I'm not dead for all the things I've done, more than I told), why we're so sensitive. EVen tho I'm blunt, I am like a baby. Look at me cross eyed and first I get pissed, I literally unable to cry. I finally figured it why. Because my father wouldn't allow me to get mad about anything He would call me a "miserable wretch" and if I cried he told me the old "if you don't stop crying I'll give you something to cry about" and he meant it right after a beating and send me to my room. Then I would get so ****ing angry that I would scratch my face till it bled. I had nowhere else to put my anger. What a ****ing ******. So now I get mad first. Then, when I start to get over it, here come the water works, usually because I have used my razor sharp tongue to hurt the other person worse, and then I hate myself because I realize it wasn't verbal abuse, or meant to hurt me in any way, I just took it that way. It's still that way even on meds, it's just a learned response like a knee jerk and I can't seem to conrol the beast!
So since I know we all probably have these same reactions, or at least cry about hurt feelings, I will try very hard not to take it personally, because I know in my heart you probably wouldn't try to hurt me for real, and I wouldn't try to hurt you guys. Yes, Patti, I got mad at you after you didn't accept my apology and explanation, but I resisted saying anything mean, cos I knew it would make matters much worse, and you are just depressed and sensitive right now. But I am sooo relieved that you understand now that I didn't mean to hurt you. It's a non issue, forgotten! We all get over little petty things, I think!
Thanks for always listening and caring. I love you both *hugs*
Oh, I guess I'm not thinking! Nickie I guess that's another thing we have in common, our dads being so nice to us, and the weak mom who just obeyed. Didn't you wish all the time that your parents were nice, and loving. I have to admit, yours was worse than mine, my parent for some reason would be really good to me on birthdays and christmas, I guess they thought that would make up for the rest of the year. Right. But my mom was fairly good to me when he wasn't around. We are actually very close now. And I left out the part that my dad as of the past year is making every attempt to be nice to me now. I disowned him last year after trying my whole life to get his love and approval, finally i decided he wasn't worth it. And surprise, he came around - he is like another person. I am shocked. But you know, it doesn't even lessen one bit the resentment I have toward him, and I just can't feel much love for him, but he is trying so hard, maybe that will come in time. I am starting to feel sorry for him, because he is bipolar also, and refuses to get help. He lets his BP give him lexapro, but refuses to see a psychiatrist, even tho he admits to being bipolar. He still has his ridiculous pride. He also doesn'st care if he lives or dies. So how can I not feel for him, he went from this ultra successful business owner without any college and retired at 56 with over a million in assets and a beautiful ranch paid for, to what he has become now, a man who sits in a chair all day and drinks scotch from morning till night. It is sad, no matter who it happens to. I hate to say, but karma is a *****.
Any way, Nicki I am so impressed with your GPA! But I am NOT surprised! The cool thing about us is when we put our minds toward something, it usually becomes an obsession and we become masters at whatever it is. Very driven to succeed. I have always been that way, since I was very little. There are a lot of perks with BP, too! But you know, I am even more impressed that you did it being a single mom and NOT living at home with daddy paying for it. Unbelievable. Just going to school is impresssive, let alone perfect grades! Do you ever sit down and truly think about that? You're awesome. Wow.
Patti, I am SOOO proud of you, you are making an effort and that's the first step. Did you find any good prospects yet? How are you feeling today? You're probably asleep now, it's only 9:45 a.m. I hope to hear from you later!
Hi hot babes! How is everyone doing today? I hope u are feeling well and happy I am very happy that we have put this bullcrap behind us. Like I said, you both mean so much to me. Nicki...thank you for understanding my sensitivy. Shannon, thnk you for accepting me as I am, and accepting my apologize. Nick, I saw that u came to Florida for a pool tournment, if you come again, you are MORE than welcome to stay here with me, not to mention I would love to meet you. Shannon, while I didnt see tht u play pool, you are welcome to come for a visit, also . We could have so much fun, doing the beach thing, going to cafes, and going to nice dinners (on me, of course!) Like I said before, I live in ft. Lauderdale,, about 1 mile from the beach. I think we all need a vacation. Just dont forget your meds...LOL! I have a 3 bedroom (1 king size bed..that is MINE...LOL) And the other 2 bedrooms are queen size beds. And we all have our own bathrooms! Nick, you can bring your daughter and Jason (I have comfortable couchs for your daughter) And Shannon, I will put u and Paul pstairs as I know u r sex fiends....LOL! I understand if u cannot come, but I hope u can. Being together, I think we will have a GREAT time!!!!! Shannon, I had no luck re: pdoc. But, I will keep on trying, thanks to you ladies. Let me know when and if u can come. The Airline tix arent that expensive. But, in case u cannot aford them, you can either drive or Shannon come alone. Not to be disresptcful, but I remember u said in a previous post that u were bankrupt. Like i said I am not rich, but I would be more happy to help u lovely ladies with yourairline tix. Also, if possible can u girls send pictures? Being that I am computer loser, I may need some help!
I love and need my babes,
P.S. I am not feeling well today, I just want you to worry about me