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Undone
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   Posted 8/15/2005 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
 Hello everyone, I am still relatively new to this and still learning what I can about this condition and the others that I apparently have. Anyway, what I want to ask is if anyone has experienced a cartoon like period where things don't seem real, like they were drawn on paper and distant. This happens a couple times a week and I don't know if this is something new or just a part of the BP. If anyone has any information they could provide me with it would be very much appreciated.
 
Jeff

kittycat27
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   Posted 8/15/2005 5:08 PM (GMT -7)   
 I am not sure what you mean, well I am and i'm not. I do know that people tend to have like a false sense of reality. I don't know if I do or not, because to me I have been like this forever, so to me it just seems like normal if I do . Explain how you mean or give an example and hen maybe I can say whether or not I have experienced that! :-)

Arenace
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   Posted 8/15/2005 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with kittcat27. I'm not really sure what you mean. I sometimes can't tell whether things are real or not, or if they really happened or not. Maybe if you try to explain it a little clearer to us we will be better able to answer. I have had times where I can't quite touch what is going on around me...is that kind of what you mean?
Bipolar brings new meaning to the "Little Ups And Downs Of Life!!"
 
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kittycat27
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   Posted 8/15/2005 6:23 PM (GMT -7)   
 Maybe like the whole world is moving, and you just seem to be standing still. I am either really aware of what's going on around me or I couldn't tell you who was standing next to me. I sometimes feel like my dreams are more real than my actual day , now that's weird. ok, I am starting to sound strange, it's my deep thinking kickin in. Has anyone ever went through a green light , then looked back to make sure it was green. Like I know it was green , otherwise I wouldn't of went, but i actually think omg was that green or red. Hello, if it was red , I am sure I would of been in an accident. These same thoughts go through my head everytime I do that. Am I just weird or has this ever happened to anyone. Sorry Jeff not trying to ruin your thread, I am trying to understand what you mean.

Undone
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   Posted 8/15/2005 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   

Sorry my description was so poor but it's very difficult to put in to words. It's that some times everything around me appears very small, fake, and very distant. I was sitting at the computer and started getting a really spaced out feeling, turned around to look at my dog and everything seemed like I described, distant, small, fake, my dog seemed like she was made out of plastic. I had to get up and go over to touch her to see if she was actually real. It lasted for a couple of minutes and then went away. I hope this is a better description.

Thanks

Jeff


Undone
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   Posted 8/15/2005 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
 Don't apologize for anything Kittycat27, I have experienced exactly what you said in your last post. So nice to know I'm not the only one going through this crazy stuff.

Arenace
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   Posted 8/15/2005 7:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay, Jeff, I think I know a little better what you mean. I don't experience things exactly like that, just a kind of unrealness. And yes, even things around me seem unreal, but not like plastic or cartoons. Okay, now we all sound abstract!!! LOL I sure hope someone here has an answer for you though. One thing I have definately learned is that though we have similar issues we do all have some really really individual experiences!
Bipolar brings new meaning to the "Little Ups And Downs Of Life!!"
 
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kittycat27
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   Posted 8/16/2005 5:05 AM (GMT -7)   
 No Jeff, yeah I recall times like that. It' s been a long time ago. So I vaguely remember or what it was. Yes it has happened to me. Lately I notice more of the shadow thing going on. I think I trip myself out sometimes. Example, ( always happens upstairs or on the way), I thought I seen someone or something, and I swung in the air again. It's paranoia , like I really think something was there at first. Then I say to myself, your a psycho. ( please, no one take offense, I was calling myself that only, and I might think that psycho means something completely different than you do) So , I keep telling myself, quit freakin yourself out. So relax, I have experienced what you have also.Hope your day is filled with fun! Mine is always unique. Have a good one, Nickie!!!!! cool

psychnurse
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   Posted 8/16/2005 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   

Losing touch with reality happens, but that's really more of a belief or an idea that no one else can comprehend, does that make sense?  I, too don't really know about the plastic or cartoon thing, but I think what you are experiencing is a short out of body experience, which can also happen.  It happens to me sometimes in a dream where I am like a giant and everything else i see is small, almost like ants.  But not anymore.

I also wonder if you are medicated?  If so, what are you taking? 


Undone
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   Posted 8/16/2005 8:42 AM (GMT -7)   

I thank everyone for the replies, every bit of information helps me. I am on medication. I take Topamax 50mg 2 times a day and going up, Effexor XR 75mg once a day, and Risperdal (which I hate and take only as needed).

Psychnurse,

What you described about feeling like a giant....I think I experience the same type of thing. So am I to assume that is just a common trait that BP people go through? I do read books on this problem and look up information on the internet but it scares the heck out of me. I don't know what my future holds, will I get worse or better, I feel so terrible for my family and friends for having to put up with me this way, I live in a very small town and only have very infrequent access to talk to professionals or anyone should I feel the need. I want to be normal.

Sorry...I just realized I was rambling on. I hope everyone is feeling good.

Jeff

 

 


psychnurse
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   Posted 8/16/2005 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   

OMG dont ever apologise for rambling!  I am the absolute worst!   We all do it, it's part of the deal, lol.

I know it's scary, it is a serious illness, so the more in touch with your pdoc, the better.  Why don't you have regular access to a doc?  Are you seeing a psychiatrist or a GP?

I am also concerned because you are on Effexor, an SSRI NOT recommended for bipolars!!!!!  They cause mania or at least hypomania us!  You are also on a rather modest dose of Topamax, it usually should be much higher to counteract the effects of the Effexor, and many times even a stabilizer won't stop it.  Welbutrin is preferred.  

If you were stable, you would not be having this out of body thing.  Bipolar gets worse and much harder to control with time, it is permanent.  That's why it is critical you get a handle on it now, and stay in constant contact with your doc preferably psychiatrist  (pdoc), because it is very hard to treat and it changes constantly, so your meds have to also.

Can you tell me all what you are feeling, If your'e hyper, euphoric,  irritable, snappy, angry, etc??

How old are you?  How long ago were you dx?  By what symptoms?  What was the first med you were given?

Tell us lots about yourself, the more info the better! yeah


Undone
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   Posted 8/16/2005 10:00 AM (GMT -7)   

Sheesh....where to begin. Well I'm a 32yo male, been having problems forever!!! now I have finally scraped up enough courage to go find some help. I have been seeing both a GP and Psychiatrist for about 4 months or so now. They figure I have BPII and mixed episodes. My moods go up and down like 30 times a day, I go from feeling like you said euphoric,HYPER (PERFECT DEscriptION), zooming around, laughing being the fun guy, to being the angry, mean, sad, irritable, don't want to be around anyone guy. I basically have almost every sign/symptom that is indicated.

about the Effexor, they initially started me on that alone, for the first couple of days things seemed fine, then all of a sudden I felt like I wanted to jump out of my skin. I was going nuts everything was bothering me so they cut me back. I want off of it but it is difficult to see a psychiatrist because of the small town I live in, I actually have to use a video-conference to talk to one. I could drive to a huge city an hour away but it's difficult due to the hours I work. My mood changes have slowed down but do still happen, will they ever stop? I hate feeling like this.

Thank you for talking with me Psychnurse


psychnurse
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   Posted 8/16/2005 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   

You need to get off that Effexor double quick, sweetie.  I get from your post that these symptoms are current?  If you have to drive 1 hour away, so be it!  Your mental health is more important than an inconvenience.    (Sorry, not yelling at you, just very passionate about people getting better!)  Mania will destroy your life, money, career due to attitude and time missed, relationships, health and anything else you can think of.  Whoever put you on Effexor only was not too smart IMO, unless you ONLY complained of depression and nothing else was asked or said.    That is usually the case, we don't usually seek help until the depression comes, so I need to know that as well, OK?

Who do you video conference with?  Pdoc or GP? You  don't have to see the pdoc everytime you have a problem.  You do need an office visit, thorough consult so he can note everything, and he should be asking lots of questions.    Then, you only need to call him if you're having trouble, they don't make you come in every time, they know there is frequent adjustments needed.  You should have been taken off the Effexor completely as soon as that started, the only thing is there are withdrawl symptoms and you have to tapered off carefully. Also, see only one doc (pdoc) for your BP, as it will be very confusing and basically impossible for you to get the correct treatment. 

 

You are an ultra rapid cycler, made much worse with the Effexor.  When you find the right cocktail of meds (much trial and error), it will slow way down, possibly stop, but I'm a rapid cycler, and still have minor swings kind of frequently.  It's MUCH better than I was, tho LOL! yeah

You're so welcome, think nothing of it, that's why I'm here and also the support is maybe more?  It's a great place, I hope you will stay, too.  Ask anything you want, anytime, you are going to have a billion questions, I still do!

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