I really need to learn more about meds

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Arenace
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   Posted 8/17/2005 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I really need to learn more about the various meds so that I can be better informed if/when I need to change meds. Shannon are you listening???? LOL
Bipolar brings new meaning to the "Little Ups And Downs Of Life!!"
 
Sandra


 


kittycat27
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   Posted 8/18/2005 6:26 AM (GMT -7)   
 I guess I always just had the worst things happen , that's how I knew to change meds. Not to mention my doc is great, he knows what's working for me and what isn't. It's not always entirely up to me what med I will be on, if that was the case, boy I would feel no pain at all. Anyways, when I was prescribed a new med, I learned everything there was to learn about it, then I waited till I experiencd the med myself. Example, I liked depakote, even though it was always being increased, however I didn't like the side effect, the weight gain, so my doc and I discussed it and we changed it. Overall it worked great, but I didn't want to gain 100lbs, and have something else to be depressed about. There are lots of wonderful websites to go to when your on a meed and research it. Are you also on topamax, I tell everyone, to read Topamax, the good, bad , and the funny..... It sums up pretty much everything you could expeience. I know that Shannon has said in the past that SSRI's are definately not good for people with BP, usually can cause mania or hypomania. That happened to me, and to know what those are just google SSRI. I know Shannon will have more info to give you than I , but that's how I learned about meds. Anytime someone would say they were on a certain med (on here) I would google it. Not to look intelligent to compare, their experiences with what the prof. think can or will happen . Understand? Anyways, sorry I answered, I am in the middle of watching my ebay stuff. I also just realized I missed yesterdays night meds. I am so forgetful. Hope this makes sense.

psychnurse
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   Posted 8/18/2005 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   

Morning, Sandra! :-)

What meds were you interested in, there are so many.  One suggestion I would make would to be to talk to your doc (pdoc) about trying a combo of Lamictal/Welbutrin for the depression instead of any SSRIs.  They tend to cause hypomania, and at the very least they can cause more mood swings, up and down, up and down.  It's good that you are on two mood stabilizers to counteract that, but then you lose the effectiveness of the antidepressant!  The above mentioned cocktail is used very commonly in BP; the Lamictal is actually a mood stabilizer that has great antidepressant effects, but on BPs only.   When it was being studied,  the majority of patients reported the effect, it was found purely by accident!  Yea!  They were only testing for the stabilization effect.  I can say it made a HUGE difference in me.  Therapeutic dose is 200 mg.  You have to go very very slowly from 25mg up because of a very rare possibility of a rash that can be deadly if left untreated; its called Stevens/Johnsons syndrome.  dont let it scare you, it's one of those super rare findings, and the moment it happens you report it, it can be taken care of.  The welbutrin added just helps that much more.   You may be able to stop the Topamax and just do the depakote, because of the stabilizing effect of Lamictal.  Just a suggestion, talk to your doc.

Depakote is as good as lith, IMO.  If you are supermanic, sometimes lith is added to help, but this isn't usually necessary.

Another great stabilizer is Trileptal, its a new cousin to Tegretol, but no blood levels needed.  I know I am always singing its praises, because it works so well for many BPs, and the dosages are superflexible and adjustable.  No side effects to speak of except constipation and that can be treated as well.  No weight gain, no grogginess, no "dopey" effect.  That's worth gold in my book!  It was my only chance for a stabilizer due to the intolerable effects of lith (destroyed thyroid, acne that left scars, muscle weakness and fatigue!!!!) and depakote (lost over half my hair in the top front and gained a LOT of weight).  I prayed it worked, and it did!!!   Yay!!!!!  I am always surprised more pdocs dont use it, so glad mine is a cutting edge pdoc.  It defo pays to shop for a good one!  They are out there!

Well, I hope this helps, if there are any others you want to know about, let me know. :-)

Shannon

 


psychnurse
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   Posted 8/18/2005 6:37 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey, Nick, you posted while I was typing.  what the hell do you mean you're sorry you responded!  Girl, you apologize WAYYYYY too much! mad   You have every right to respond! yeah   And furthermore, do you think I don't go to the source on a lot of these, esp newer ones, the actual patients who have been on them?   That is the real Litmus test!  It's a VERY intelligent thing to do!  Example - you and I both have experienced bad mania as a result of SSRIs, many also have severe panic attacks, (me included) plus I have seen it millions of times!  (lol, do we ALL have to exaggerate?!!! eyes (sp)

You are a crazy girl! :-)


Arenace
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   Posted 8/18/2005 7:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Morning Shannon, Morning Nickie, Thank you both for posting!!!! What I meant by learning more was making an informed imput. There are some meds I am afraid to take because of some things I have seen happen with other people on them, i.e. Seroquel. I know that doesn't in any way mean I'll have the same reaction, but..., so that's why I went on this fishing expedition. Anyway, the other reason is that I am on Lexapro. It works for me for the most part and I don't want to rock the boat but...and both of you know what that but means. So wondering what I could take that would keep me out of the darkness, but wellbutrin makes me mean, so that's not a good choice. Love the Depakote, Love the Topamax, though the Topamax sometimes makes my head feel like it's in a vibrator! And, I do have a bit of an issue with balance, but not sure which med is affecting that, or maybe I've just grown unbalanced in my old age! Oh no wait, that happened a long time ago!! I am on a pretty even keel for the most part. The lows are not as low, though when I'm there I'm so afraid of it that I lose perspecative...Thank you so much Shannon for pulling me back from the edge the other day. You have no idea how to point your words were. They hit directly and I was able to take a deep breath and say "OH!! I'm way overreacting to this, down happens without being catistrophic!" And the Highs and not as high and my loved ones don't have to run when they see me coming!! I've learned to not leave the house with money other than what I'm specifically going for. No checking account, no credit cards. Hey I'm getting there! My youngest son put a dent in my beloved car yesterday and low and behold he's even still breathing today, so there IS hope! LOL
I have learned more in the short time that I have been on this forum than I have learned on any website and any book that I have read since my DX. This is an invaluable tool for those of us who really want to get better, be better, and be informed. I am really looking forward to the day when I have something intelligent to say to someone who is asking a question or asking for help.

Love you both
Bipolar brings new meaning to the "Little Ups And Downs Of Life!!"
 
Sandra


 


psychnurse
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   Posted 8/18/2005 7:44 AM (GMT -7)   

I am so glad we can help you - you're right this place is invaluable.  I have those times, too and sometimes I have to vent/whine, too.  Instead of trying to put on the happy face, it's nice that others understand.  And I also know how hard it is to think the right way when it happens.  In a "moment of clarity" I can try to say something to help, but even when I'm there I tend to lose perspective sometimes.  I think we all do, that's why we need each other to remind us. 

I'm glad Lexapro works for you, not every single BP is the same, for sure.   The mania effect can be much more dangerous if you are type I, which is mania with psychotic episodes; Nickie and me are both.  But like I said, lamictal is invaluable in BPs and very underpresribed.  It has a stabilizing effect of keeping you from going too low, just like the depakote keeps you from mania.  Ask your doc!  I love it; so do myriads of others!

Curious, what bad effects did you hear of with Seroquel?  Were the people you've seen have problems with it BP?  It seems that all docs now are prescribing it for things it really isn't intended for like insomnia and anxiety.  It is intended and indicated for psychotic episodes in BP and schitzophrenia.  Other people tend to be way oversedated from it.    It's usually great for most BPs because it doesn't usually have the weight gain issue.  It really does depend on the dose, some docs prescribe way too much or not enough, it has to be adjusted to suit the individual.

I'm glad you have learned to deal with your spending.  That's a really bad part of BP.  I actually bankrupted us, I think I told you, but when I was stabilized all that urge completely went out the window.  I NEVER buy things I don't need anymore and even manage to keep a small savings account.  That's something I have never done before.  I no longer have to juggle checks to pay bills or wait until payday.    There isn't much extra of course, but we get by ok.  since I can't work anymore that kind of hurt us, but I get almost half what I used to make through disability.    I don't ever tell other poeple I am on it, of course, they dont' understand how bad the illness is, but I feel I worked my ass to the bone and then some - I "paid my dues" into SS and I deserve to get the benefit - i am not ripping anyone off or just being lazy.  Besides, my pdoc told me for threee years to stop working because it was making me so ill.  I resisted due to my pride.  It finally got too much and I was physically sick all the time, and in the mental ward, too! lol.

Anyway, there I go rambling again. eyes

I'm glad you are doing well, talk to you later! :-)

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