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Sassie and Sad
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   Posted 10/24/2005 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok--brief summary--today is my 14th day on Lamictal (25mg)  Tomorrow I will start 50mg.....  It is also my 14th day on 225 of Effexor from 300mg and  my 14th day of 20mg of Lexapro instead of 10mg.........Make sense???
 
BAsically I feel like utter ****!  I was doing really well.  Yes, the irritability and the absolute jittery, jump out of my skin feeling is gone,,,,but now I am just tired and zoned out....Hell, I don't know what is meds and what is me just coming down or going up or whatever it is for the day.........
 
I am so tired that I literally had a hard time making myself move today--I am numb, I feel empty, and have NO REASON to......but,am I spiralling down or having adjustments with meds....I cannot eat....I eat either eggs or biscuits, or oatmeal,,,,the thought of a real meal makes me sick..my stomach is very upset as well........once again, many reasons for this--it could be nerves,,,,my family is going to crap and even though I am married and have a wonderful husband,,,,seeing my parents in the situation they are in bothers me and I cannot separate myself....my mother literally hates my dad and belittles him, talks bad about him, and is just a down right B*^&%.  I know I should be able to let it go and separate my life from this but I can't......I see the hurt in my dad's eyes--no he is not perfect, but the hateful, mean comments are really taking a toll on him........anyway, just another section of the stress and drama in this piece of a life... I just liteerally hurt--my heart hurts and I am confused b/c one minute my mom is nice to me and then the next she is just cruel and hateful...yes, my other sisters have been able to separate themselves--they have resentment, but they don't let it totally consume them--I don't know how NOT to let it totally consume me---I am just miserable and I know logically right now that things are out of proportion for me,,,,I can tell you that all darn day , but it doesn't change the way I am feeling--it is real to me--every ounce of it,,,and it is bad,,,,really bad and I am furious that my mom can't love my dad or at least respect her....and through all this, my dad's response is "honor your mom and God is going to honor you for it"---  You know, I wouldn't blame him if he beat the hell out of her--and OF COURSE--that has and will NEVER happen,,,but htat is what she is doing with her words......Ugh--i am just miserable and so terribly sad.....I hate this feelign.  I was so hoping it was going away for good...................fat chance huh??? 

Sassie and Sad
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Date Joined Sep 2005
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   Posted 10/24/2005 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
got off on a tangent--the question--am I going back into depression b/c of the drop in effexor? Does lamictal cause severe drowsiness (like the antipyschotics do) Or am I just spiraling into this hole again???

I mean really, I should be able to beat this---I just keep wanting this not to be bipolar---it makes me so angry and sad! Even though, I know I am doing the right thing by learning to recognize triggers or signs of cycling,,,,,it is just another reminder that this is for real--and it isn't going away! I HATE IT!

psychnurse
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   Posted 10/24/2005 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm sorry, hon, it sounds like it could be going down.   Are you having trouble physically moving?  Made of lead feeling?   Or just sad?  or both?

Lamictal isn't causing this, and no it doesn't make you drowsy.  Some people have a terrible time getting off effexor.   Esp such a massive dose!!!!!!!!.   The Lamictal doesn't have to be moved up sooooooooo slowly!   Usually it's about 7-10 days at most for every 25mg up.  it's not really therapeutic until 200mg.   Ask you doc if maybe you can speed things up a little!   Sometimes, we just crash when a stabilizer is introducd, but Lamictal doesn;t usually have that effect; usually it's the depakote, lith, and others and/or the antipsychotics.  It is probably the reduction in Effexor and could just be the time of year, fall is the most common time to crash.

I have very troubled alcoholic parents that drink themselves into oblivion all day and night and that can consume me too if I am not careful, just try to think about how you can improve your own life more, learn all you can about your disorder so you can help get it better soooner, and maybe read, it doesn't take any physical energy, keeps your mind occupied.  Read anything, doesn't matter, whatever interests you.  If you aren't having the paralysis feeling, light exercise, a brisk walk outdoors in the cool air may help.  I hope I dont' sound lame, I have been where you are and worse, and sometimes, there just aint a darn thing to do but wait it out, it isn't forever, and it WILL get better.   Your bipolar remember????????   Keep in frequent touch with your pdoc if you are getting worse CALL HIM!  Tell him you are concerned with how long this process is going to take at this rate, the trick is be a part of your care, not just a patient.  Voice your concerns.  Don't just blindly follow because he/she is an MD, they dont know exactly what you need, because the whole thing is subjective on your part, you both just treat it as it comes. 

I hope this helps you some, talk to your husband too, involve him in this, he needs to be part of every bit of it, the last thing in the world you need is to be feeling alone at home with him.

Feel better soon, hon,

Shannon


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Sassie and Sad
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   Posted 10/25/2005 6:09 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks so much!  I am going to call my pdoc today and just ask him what can be done.  I am feeling a little better today............not as heavy,,,,yes, yesterday it was like I could barely move.....I was just zoned out and everything felt heavy--like I had cement tied to my ankles...I made it through the day though...I kept thinking,,,I just want to go home and sleep, but then I just kept pushing myself to make it through the day...

I have been talking to my husband regularly--he went with me to my pyschologist appointment and things have been really good.  He has been really supportive and listened and tried to encourage the best he can.  I think some of this was triggered by all the issues with my mom and dad.....my mom just right out talks bad about my dad to me and I have to listen to that...not to mention that one minute she is trying to do the nice supportive "mom" things and the next minute, if you say something she doesn't like or don't do what she wants,,,she just snaps--I mean, she can be the nicest, sensitive person and then BOOM--the most hateful, mean person EVER....it is so confusing to me--even though, I am an adult--I still would like to have a relationship with my mom and I am just beginning to accept the fact that it is probably never going to happen.

Seeing my dad so miserable and biting his tongue is another issue I have---he doesn't say much and doesn't respond to her-- Ithink in a way that is very strong of him, but in another way, I want to take up for him...it is taking such a toll on him--physically you can see it!  So anyway, I think some of my feelings yesterday were from that and then some of it is just this time of year and going down, I am afraid........Although I don't feel sick to my stomach and was able to eat last night and was able to get up and get going this morning--I just feel really numb and in slow motion.....no feelings of anything--other than numbness and emptiness--what do you do--just wait until it passes,,,I guess........Thanks so much for your words of encouragement and support...you have no idea how much it helps to hear from others who struggle and can truly relate.

 

Hanging on!

Sassie

 

 


psychnurse
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   Posted 10/25/2005 6:50 AM (GMT -7)   

No problem, Sassie that's what we are all here for, to support each other!

Yeah, the weight gain issue - only some drugs do it, namely Zyprexa, Risperdal, lithium and Depakote.   That's a reasonable assumption, someone who has never been overweight suddenly gains thirty pounds, but the others don't.  Seroquel has a very tiny possibility, but no one I know including myself has had a problem with it.  And you are sooooo right.  eating 2000 calories of healthy food won't put on weight like 2000 of junk and sweets.  It's a different metabolizing that goes on with those foods.  Short acting energy and faster to go to fat.  Also, EXERCISE!   No real weight loss without it, sorry, no getting around it.   Exellent for the moods, too.   If you can, if you have the leaden paralysis you just cant and I totally understand that.   I coudln't even get out of bed to take a wakl around the house, it was so hard I would literally be out of breath just walking from the bedroom to the kitchen.  Unbelieveable hell.   I am having a tiny bit of it lately, haven't been able to do but about 1/3 to 1/2 of my usual exercise, and have already lost muscle tone.  Usually I'm in bed by now, so I'm thankful that's all I have, thanks to Lamictal.  It will help pull you out when it gets higher dosage, although you may still have problems coming off the Effexor.  Still don't have any idea why your doc doubled the Lexapro, just trading one problem for the same.  confused

If it was me, personally I would find another doc!


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