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sheryl=jk
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   Posted 11/12/2005 6:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok I realize its the weekend and lot dont know what to say, but somelease reply, I really feel left in the dark, and that I am a bother to people here in this forum when no one replies and I know some are reading my post. Please say something s I know someone out there gives a hoot, if not for heallingwell I really have no where to go, Please any experiences
with these drugs =, please share with me, I rally need other exoeiences
Dauhgter has multiple issue ( so does son, but not discussing him right now, just daughtrer), she is milly autistic, bipilar, adhd, and tourettes. Until ths year the adhd wasnt so bad that she could contain it at school, and the tourettes she kept at home, now she manifesting tourettes and more adhd at school, she also much anxity ,a obecessive compulsive traits, geodon prozac, andbuspar had wroked for awhile with the agressibe, she was hurting me and the cats, buting there  ears til they bled, she talks about blood, and poop, and tees, constantly, its obcessive for her, we try to ignore, to make behaior extinct, but sh ehas an illness, so we are weaning her off the geodnon, on to depakote, which probably a better choice for her. But coming off the geodon is hard, and two we cant afford the geodon its 120 co-pay a month along with everythng else etc etc. I am afraid he is gogint o suggest she try a stimulant, how will that mix with what she is taking, anyone have any experience with a mixutere of meds adults or children , with the stimulants liek ritilin mixed in there, and what is the results, she cannot take the stim by itslef, will worsen the tourettes and the bipolar,
Sh ehas to have the depakote for mood stabilzer, prozac, for helpiing with socialneess at school and anxiety, and it helps her sleep. she has the buspar for added anxiety issues. I am afriud of her taking a stimulant, anyone else out there have this problem and what do you or your child take with the stimulant. i am gogin to paost this in other forums too, really needs other expeirences with multiple meds for mutlple problmes, I know diet is a big thing, and no offense, but please I need advice the meds and what others are taking with stimulants that have other problems as well, thank for any thoughts..... scool
 
Dana please help me with your knolwedge of drugs and the fact that you live this yourself, can a person child or adult been on a stimulant ( becasue I think thats where she is heading for shcool issues), and still remain onthe depakote as the mood stabilzer, and the prozac and buspar for anxiety. what other combos have you heard pr know of that wrokd with a person having to take a stimulant, but still needs the protection of a mood stabilzer and anti anxiety drugs, can you name a few combos you have heard or come across and what the outcomes have been. She is thin, i dont wan ther to lose any weight, the deoakote is for aggression, the proaz and buspar for anxiety, will ritilin rs carry her thru her school day and thru homework at 4, how bad is the rebound effect, and what can do to help that, we have to stay generic with all th is as we cannot affor the co-pays onthe name brands. Sh esill has some clonidine that would help her sleep if stimulant prevented that, but what mixing all this stuff whats your knowledge and thoughts ans experience, thanks Dan if you can reply I know you are busy, so whenever you can would be great, thanks so much...Love...Sheryl


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Post Edited (jk) : 11/13/2005 8:28:34 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 11/13/2005 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't have any advice for you I'm afraid, but you and your family will be in my prayers.
Take care
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   Posted 11/14/2005 9:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Ellie for responding, the knowlegde someone is prayiing for us really helps, maybe someone will haveadvice, a very kind person has emailed me with her experineces, so I am grateful for that. thanks again.....Sheryl
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   Posted 11/14/2005 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   

Sheryl,

I'm with Ellie on the advice part, but you will be in my thoughts. The only thing that I might suggest is that the depakote may help with more than one of her symptoms. I take depakote and its pretty cheap. Overall its a pretty good drug with regards to being effective without too many sideffects. It does often induce weight gain, my experience. I would ask your dr. if maybe the depakote could help with some of the other meds and boost their effects to have them work better. The depakote might help to keep her more level so that the other meds can kick in and work better for her and help to carry her through the day. In the end, I find that it helps to even my mood a little - it doesn't so much change me, but makes things less erratic so that things don't seem so overwhelming and helps the other meds that I take work better overall.

Have you checked into support groups in your area? There might be a group of parents with similar worries who could help point you to some resources in your community - maybe suggest some people to help?

take care of yourself and I hope that you can find a solution that works,
Putter

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   Posted 11/15/2005 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
thank putter I saw phychitrist yesterday, I will post later what happened, actually its a note to her teacher but i will copy and paste it, it sums everything up. cant post right now my son is breathing down my neck for the computer, wil post later.
thansk again
Dana if your out plz any thoughts!!!
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   Posted 11/15/2005 4:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok whle son is preoccupied her is what I wrote teacher it says everything will psot a few more other lettters to her, its easier for me to do that way so I dont have to type twice, and it really sums up how things are going, thanks again for those who responded and care..Love..Sheryl

Dear Mrs Stroh and others invested in Kara's best interest:
Seems Kara is keeping her stims and tics at home, saw psychiatrist today, again he says she is autistic, bipolar, tourettes and adhd, which mean multiple meds unfortunately, If you saw her before meds she would not be able to function at school at all, she would be in a corner and rocking on the floor humming songs all day long not interacting with anyone, I know her behavior is not perfect right now, but I am assuming she is not the only one who is getting in trouble, there are many factors to why she does what she does ( examples are allergies at this time of year( unfortunately allergy meds make her behavior worse so I avoid them, also change of seasons affect her, over stimulation, sights, sounds, smells, etc, there is more than her just not wanting to behave, she seems very anxious at school these days.) I would like a conference in middle of December, before school lets out for the Holidays to go over a little bit about these disorders with all who are working with Kara, there are different kind of approaches that can be taken, she is very much monkey see, monkey do, she has a natural tendency to talk nasty( not brought on by what we as parents are saying, we do not use this language) ( this is not good, it is part of her tourettes, we are working on it.) I think maybe we should implement an Individual Behavior Plan for Kara consisting of positive reinforcement, as well as consequences. This had to be done with my son in kindergarten and first grade. It helped greatly. We are using it at home as well.
Due to the adhd traits she is experiencing he has put her on Ritilin SR, along with the other meds to help stabilize her, she cannot be one the ritilin without a mood stabilizer ( the depakote), she needs the prozac and buspar for anxiety and to help be as social as she is now, which may not be exactly where we would like it to be, but without it she would not be social at all, and in her one little shell shaking and rocking all day, and eat even less then she already does. So it is necessary for her to be on these meds we are hoping the ritlin will help with the attention span, and attentiveness at school, please monitor her closely, if it does not work I do not want her on it. We will probably have to tweek meds until we get a good combo, we will not be able to achieve perfection, but hopefully, achieve a child (Kara) who is happy and not angry, and compliant to what authorities are asking of her, even then she will have her bad days, but hopefully not so many. Its important we work together and I need your feedback by email maybe weekly to let me know her progress, or regression, I will forward to Mrs. Freeze as well, and a few advocates I am working with as well to keep them abreast of what is happening with Kara's Progress. She goes for blood work next Monday, but school will be out so that should not be a problem, her doctor is very thorough, and wants to make sure everything is doing well. She is having a hard time coming of the Geodon, which would be expected being weaned off any med. She goes back to the psychiatrist on Monday Dec. the 5th I will check her out early then as well, and yes there will probably be more tweeking of meds, we discussed losing her night time prozac and replacing it with disipermine, which he said would help with sleep and anxiety and in the long run with the adhd, he did not want to do it now, as he wants to see what's working and what's not, so she does not have to be on meds that are unnecessary, so she may be able to lose the buspar too, the less meds the better, just what she needs to be able to function in a somewhat normal expectation at school and hopefully at home as well. .I will keep you all posted to any and all changes going on.
Her Doctor has given me questionnaires he would like you (Mrs. Stroh), and Mrs Freeze to fill out with her behavior prior to this week, as hopefully the ritilin and extra depakote will help, he wants to know how she has been before this week. Ok thanks so much for your help.

Sincerely,

Sheryl L. Morgan
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   Posted 11/15/2005 4:44 AM (GMT -7)   
teachers reply, i wil also post my next letter to her

Ms. Morgan-
I will be glad to fill out the questionnaires for the doctor. Yes, I will let you know how the medicine works out, as adhd medicine must be monitored for the best dosage possible. Even though Kara sometimes struggles with her behavior (defiance to do what's asked of her-work) she has made progress as to "fitting in" and socializing with others. The other children have been picking her for a partner and they are playing with her at recess, so that's major progress. I don't really see any increased anxiety at school. Her lack of attention does cause some problems, however.
So, let me know of a day the second week of December that you would like to come in (1:15pm).
Mrs. Stroh
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   Posted 11/15/2005 4:48 AM (GMT -7)   
My reply back to her:
Thanks Mrs Stroh , I will let you know, Mondays are usually best for me as I don't work on Mondays, but we work out a time and date, I appreciate your time and effort, and keeping me informed with Kara's social progress, that makes me feel better, maybe her extra social ness
is a two sided sword, good that she has friends of course, but I think she will copy a lot of what they do good are bad, and yes I know most typical children do too, but with Kara it is the intensity and the frequency of how she does it. She likes telling about the nasty things some of her friends say, particularly boys. She talks about Jaree?? a lot, Dillian, she doesn't talk about too many girls, when she pretends she is teacher at home ( she want's to be a teacher, hopefully she will!!) she is always yelling at a pretend Saidie, she doesn't talk about Lindsey much, she like Katlyn. Is there a Jordan? I am very pleased to hear she is making friends even if she copies some of the bad things too, better that, then no friends at all, again she is monkey see monkey do, if we could guide her to I hate to use the word, but COPY a friend who is basically well behaved kinda have that student as a peer model for Kara if possible would be beneficial to her, she likes to copy others actions good or bad, its part of her disorder, again I know typical students do this too, but not to the extent and frequency children like Kara do. I have a little boy almost 4 in my class he is being evaluated right now, he has aspergers amongst who knows what, he cries if gets off the green light, I try to give them a sticker each day they get on green, and they get something from treasure box if the stay on green all week. I realize by Kara's age this should not be needed, but maybe some kinds of token system would be benificial for her right now, it was for my son. My point with the little boy is a pick out the best behaved boy in the class, and tell my asperger student to copy him, and it works, because I know he will copy what he sees. Kara is much the same way. Anyway sorry for such a long note..again thank you so much for all your help and feedback..hopefully Kara will have a good week, I think too she may be trying to come down with something, holding off on the allergy meds, she is on enough already. If she still seems like she something down with something by next week or she does I will take her to pediatrician.
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   Posted 11/15/2005 5:41 AM (GMT -7)   
sweetie, I'm sorry I'm here. But it'll take me awhile to read.
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   Posted 11/15/2005 5:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, I'm very in experienced at using these medications in children. I did find a neat web site, that has "ask an expert" on it.

http://www.aboutourkids.org/aboutour/articles/guidetopsychmeds.html
 ~ With Love ~ Dana, Pharm. D.
 
~ Diagnosed with Lupus in May of 2004 and Bipolar II in April of 2001. 
 
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   Posted 11/15/2005 6:14 AM (GMT -7)   
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10755581&dopt=Abstract

I'm really trying to look into this but it's taking time as your situation is very complex and I know is very distressing. This is an article which I can probably retrieve the entire article because I have access. In which the combination of valproic acid and ritalin induced side effects. 
 
I have today off.  I'll try and get you everything I can pull up. 

And Actually this site has a very thourough explaination of the medicines. 

http://www.healing-arts.org/children/ADHD/medications.htm


 ~ With Love ~ Dana, Pharm. D.
 
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   Posted 11/15/2005 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh thank you Dana take your time, just knowing you care and wen you can will be greatly appriciated, anytime you can in your own time, will be fine, I am not going anywhere , my eyes and ears are open, thanks so much Dana, you are Gem, we all love you....Love...Sheryl yeah ps thanks for the links when i get home I will research them smurf
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   Posted 11/15/2005 6:35 AM (GMT -7)   
No problem Sheryl. I know you have been struggling with both your children for a long time. And this is something that interests me as I see a lot of children recieve these medications. It's something I need to look up for myself as well as you. I do need to shower now and I have to re do my resume and apply for several hospital positions today as "retail h***" is starting to make me snap. Fertility hormones aren't helping me I'm sure either as I started balling at work in front of all these customers and cried for an hour. But I couldn't leave because I was the only pharmacist. It was quite embarrassing. One lady came back with a package of M&Ms for me, which made me cry more. hehe lol. Oh well life goes on.
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   Posted 11/15/2005 7:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Dana, my goodness it has been sooooooooo long, how are you? Miss you tons, please tell me how all is going.

Sandra

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   Posted 11/15/2005 1:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I am sorry Dana you are so stress, no the feeling I will be praying you get the job you want, and the fertilty hoemones takeit easy on you her is update on what happend today, needledd to say NO RITILAN, dr confirmed she is austistic, bipolar, adjd, and tourettes, anxoiety. ocd, need I go on, my email to teacher here will some it up, so now we try not disperpermine but something a little milder than that for her at night, to help woith anxiety, he says in long run it will with adhd with out the stimulants. Son is ok on th depokote, but the seroquel is doing nothing, he needs somethiing for anxioety hoping may they will swtich serquel to desipermine may see better results, how do the tryclics go with the ahdhd and thetourettes and the bipolar, I hear better than the ssrri, and they would both still be in the depakote for mood stablixer and aggressionm ok here is note:

ok a little back ground info school called me at 10.30 saying kara ticing real bad, talking a mile a minute shaking, man nay tics, grandious ideas, said she was bigger than God, could do anything, somethng about heaven etc etc.

Its about 3:30, she is doing much better, still rather hyped up, gave her half a clonidine, I did not want to knock her out, she still has homework to do, if she still amped after that I will give her other half. So we know NO MORE RITILIN, I will email you what exactly she is on tomorrow. She still seems rather happy anyway. Mrs Freeze she is still reading that moose book, has been reading since we left at 1:30. So we know the ritilin brought out her bipolar and her tourettes more so than they were, we know not to do stimulants ever again. Her pediatrician said she was fine, not even really concerned with her blood work test as the psychiatrist was, I guess psychiatrist errs on the side of caution. One of her liver was high, but physiatrist and pediatrician both agree it can been bone growth spurt, and pediatrician said she had seen much higher levels. He blood work did indicate he allergies were active, but we already knew that, and she know I don't want to put her on any allergy meds as it worsens her behavior, she gave her a sample bottle of nasonex to help with nose, her ears , throat looked ok, she he bp was 84 over 60, her heart rate was 135, she is still pretty high as a kite, at least she not irritable. Her hear sounded good, the only thing she said is her tongue was whitish, could be dry mouth or strep, she said if she spiked fever or showed symptoms that she would go ahead and call in an antibiotic for her, otherwise she is fine, we just know no more stimulants, lets hope the trycilic helps she starts it tomorrow night. Thanks Mrs. Stroh, and Mrs Freeze, and Nancy, and everyone else too for your support, will keep posted on and email her meds tommorow.
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   Posted 11/15/2005 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah sheryl it seems to me like with that combination mood stabilizers are first line. But I'm still looking. Sorry I had to redo my cv and applied to two places almost three but got fed up with the application. And I got calls from my boss trying to get me to stay with Walgreens, yada yada yada.

I hope this helps her and you!!! getting of the ritalin and on depakote. Big things with depakote are the liver issues, weight gain, and polycystic ovarian syndrome (sometimes with insulin resistance). Which 10 percent of the population has pcos without using depakote and it seems to be increased in women with bipolar too. It's not serious just leads to fertility issues, inc. male characteristics (hair, balding, acne), and sometimes adult diabetes (which can be controlled). It's essentially too much male hormone causing ovarian size to be larger almost looking like cysts on ultrasound. It's definately a risk benefit issue you, and her doc need to weigh.

But I will continue to see what the consensus is on these issues in children and medication. It's a lot harder to find then for adults since most of my references are for adults and most drug studies are in adults.

And I know this is extrememly frustrating.

And Sandra thanks for you hello. I will post, I know I've been bad about posting.

Love you all!

Dana
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   Posted 11/15/2005 4:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Dana, so far terh depakote is the best mood stablixer we can get within our budeget, cannot afford any newer one, can you suggest anyhting better that is stilla mood stabilizer the is generic, that is not resperidal, sh ecant toelrate it, and halperdol seems alittle to hard core I think. here is what she is in as of tomorrow:
Dropping the ritilin!!! One dose was enough! her is the list: your thoughts are welcome good or bad, need the info:
Keep in mind she is 6 and a half son is 11 but looks and acts 15.
your welcome, I almost forgot, i was pretty frazzled probably more than Kara, I dont know if she iwll sleep well tonight even after other sedating meds and clonidine she is still quite high, tyring to get her to take a warm bath, its only 5:30 so maybe by 9:00 she will be settled, her homework she had like 6 or 7 pages of it, is quite sloppy, but that was the best she could do with her state of mind, I helped her out a bit more than usual too, she needed the help, she could hardly hold the pencil, and she is still reading that moose book!!!!
ok her is list of meds:

Morning meds:

250 mg of Depakene
10mg of Prozac
5mgs of Buspar
an acidophilus supplement to help keep healthy stomach flora and to help prevent yeast infections.

Night meds:

250 mg of Depakene
25 mg of Imipramine ( Trycilic antidepressant) to help with anxiety, sleep, and in long run should help with adhd the doc said
5 mgs of Buspar
and another acidophilus supplement too, her pediatrician suggested this and it helps her stomach stay regular, and keeps yeast infections away.

and thats it for Kara

Hoping to switch son off of Seroquel to Imprimine or Despirmine as well, as seroquel is doing nothing for him. Depakene is helping his aggression and mood stabilization, but not with anxiety and crying spells, he says he cant help it. I think this would help.
I will keep you posted of any changes, thanks again for you help and support, let me know how she does tomorrow, she will not be on any new meds tomorrow, but I think she will be tired. Thanks again.
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   Posted 11/15/2005 5:11 PM (GMT -7)   
this only other one I see them using in children is lithium. But that has bad side effects as well. Possibly worse than the depakote, but lithium can be very effective if you find the depakote doesn't cut it. And lithium is generic so it's pretty cheap.

and lithium needs constant monitoring. I don't know how much your insurance pays on blood tests and how tolerant kara is to getting them taken.
 ~ With Love ~ Dana, Pharm. D.
 
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   Posted 11/16/2005 3:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I think i will stick with the depakote for now, if worsens futher for either child i will consider lithium, but right now i will tkae the depaokote, sh edoes not start the impermne until tonight tonight, what do you think about that, and your expericne with others one it?PS goodluck on you job hunting, I will be praying for you to get some releif too, you neeed a long deserved break!!!...Love...Sheryl smurf
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Post Edited (jk) : 11/16/2005 3:42:41 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 11/16/2005 3:48 AM (GMT -7)   
My freind and school mentour and advocate says the tourettes is what needs to be treated the most, I agee, the adhd will have be on the back burnerm vsides her grades are above average in all areas, she get 104 on every single spelling test.
this friend also suggests i go to a tourrettes meeting, she has touretes as well, but not the nasty word parts just the tics, until yesterday Kara had mostly the nasty words, making me think primarily biplar, with some tic clicking , eye blinking, squeels evry few seconds, but nothing real bad ecept the nasty talk, but after that Ritilin she stated hse wa bigger than GOD, she ticced like she never had before, jerks motuh chewing, the whole thing. Funny hting is ritilin will knock me out cold, maybe I shouls take. i am taking Kloinpin its not even touching my anxiety, and he trippled my dose, yeah it takes edge off, but I still feel like i am anxious as heck.

She fuanlly crashed at 3 this morning she ticed for almsot 20 hours, she went outside in the middle of the night, it was as if i could nto get thru to her at all,  iam worried about school today, I have to teach, and she gonna have to go to school, i dont wna to lose my job, I will keep psoted to how it goes, thanks again for everyones support and thoughts, and those of you you have personally emailed thanks you so much for you support, and kindness, i hope I can return the favor...Love....Sheryl


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Post Edited (jk) : 11/16/2005 3:58:06 AM (GMT-7)


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 11/16/2005 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
she still had a bad day from lack of sleep, still ticing abit, how long should the ticing last, she has ticed befroe the ritilin biut not like this still tongue chewing and leg jerking have out call innto dr, she is not near life threatening no need for er, but would like dr to call back, will see hoe impermione works brand name ois tofranil I think.
Son hs appton moday he is 250 depakote n the am and 250 in the pm, and the seroquel at night, seroguel does nothing, should he be upped to 500 mgs in the morning 500 at night? he 130 lbs, and would tofranil be better than the seroquel for him as well, srroquel does nothing, so why have him on it, he is crying alot, not tolerating sistermm slamming doors, breaking pencils cuz I wont get off computer when he wants me too, daughter has major ocd goign onto demandong bossy, so i can underrstand his anger, but he has got to learn to deal with it , and we will contune to work on her as well as him. any thoughts please, I get more help here then I get at his phychiatrist, and its not that easy for me to swtich him i am gogint o try to though....
***Take Care.....Sheryl***
 
SERENITY PRAYER: "GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE; COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN; AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE........


sheryl=jk
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   Posted 11/19/2005 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   

Posted my quetion in nnew topic hope someone responds...Love..Sheryl


***Take Care.....Sheryl***
 
SERENITY PRAYER: "GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE; COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN; AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE........

Post Edited (jk) : 11/20/2005 2:42:51 AM (GMT-7)

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