is bipolar same as being crazy or insane

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F27
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   Posted 4/11/2016 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I've enjoyed it too! It's fun chatting with people who don't judge me for being depressed.

Go easy on yourself. Stuff happens. We can't change the past, but we OWN the future.

Will you have time for a quick chat tomorrow? I usually hang around in the Depression forum.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
i would like that. yes. I will be free anytime up until 1 or after 330 tomorrow.
I just forgot to tell you there is a new nonmedical depression treatment called fisher wallace stimulator that has excellent reviews ad is successful on treatment for depression anxiety and insomina.
check it out on utube.

F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Mornin' carlarenee,

I checked out the stuff on You Tube for the Fisher Wallace stimulator. Cool. I guess it's like a home version trans-cranial thingy. Interesting theory about increasing serotonin instead of just inhibiting it's reuptake. Have you been able to try one?

This old guy needs coffee ....

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 8:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I know my dr wont approve it. She wants me to stay and suffer from side effects of antidepessants. She said is would not work and only idiots would use it

i cant afford it. i am a loser

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   Posted 4/12/2016 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
I can't afford it either, but I'm not a loser, although sometimes I feel like one. But not today. Today I'm good.

Trans-cranial stimulation is one of those very controversial things. Most docs will probably ignore it until the science comes in.

For people like you and I, we don't get to play in the experimental realm - we just get the stuff where the science is settled.

How did you manage to get two psychiatrists? I can't even get one!

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
that is depressing though. you are saying i have no hope
thanks a lot
at least you have a family and you are not alone.




EDIT:Hi carlarenee, we do not talk about suicide on the forum. Editing you post... If you are feeling suicuidal, please contact the hotline, or you can feel free to e-mail me to chat. My e-mail address is listing in my profile.

Thanks, UA

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F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, it's depressing, but life is all about figuring out how to deal with the cards we're dealt. No use in getting fussed over things we can't have. I've grown to be content with life as it comes.

I hope you hang out and chat some more - it usually takes more than 2 days for people to not like me. ;-)

You still open to going to the hospital?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
you sound like a person that only accepts medications.
how are you going to be better if meds stop working.

You need education on subject of depression

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F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Meds work for me, thankfully, but you're right - there's may be a point in time that I can't count on them.

Meds for me have always been a way to calm me down enough to help me reframe my thinking. Cognitive behaviour therapy is kinda my goto survival mechanism. It's a cool discipline that's been around for a while. Basically it helps a person look objectively at their situation, and remove the fear and emotional bias.

And you're right, I could ALWAYS use some more education on depression - that's why I come to places like this. I like HealingWell, it's a great site to get and give compassion, and learn a bit at the same time.

Sorry if I offended you - it's always tough having conversations in this medium. Please know that I meant no disrespect.

Have you done a lot of studying about depression?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:12 AM (GMT -6)   
i have a BS degree in health education and had many courses in psychology so i am very familiar with depression.

cognitive therapy is bad. never worked for me. i tried emdr therapy and it doesnt work either
neighter does my therapist

my dr said i will never get better

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F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
My education is in computer science, which makes me a nerd, I guess. CBT can be hit and miss - anecdotally it appears to work better on depression with comorbid anxiety. I'm lucky it works for me.

What's EMDR therapy?

What's your therapist say that leads you to believe you will never get better?

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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm logging off in 15 minutes, but I'll be back in about 2 hours if you wanna keep chatting. :)

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
it is something using eye movement. is also for ptsd. doesnt work. it sucks
i dont have anxiety so cbt doest work for me
psychiatrist said i wont get better, just get worse as we age.
life sucks

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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Cool - I'll have to look it up. I remember there was another thing that sounded interesting called 'Tapping'. Perhaps it was along the same lines.

Yeah, life does suck sometimes. But it doesn't always suck. And life doesn't have to get worse as you age. Like I said previously: we OWN the future.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
i used tapping,
waste of time. EMDR is not worth trying, it is stupid.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
it is something using eye movement. is also for ptsd. doesnt work. it sucks
i dont have anxiety so cbt doest work for me
psychiatrist said i wont get better, just get worse as we age.
life sucks

F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
'ello again. I've been thinking about how you've studied psychology, that must make you a challenging patient! You already know all the jedi mind tricks your therapist probably has suggested.

What's on your agenda today?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
just got back from shrink. and she added new antidepressant.
I will cross fingers it helps.
She said i need to do more to help self

cilly
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   Posted 4/12/2016 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Carla,
I just like to interrupt your conversation ,hope you don't mind.

Medication is medication and you are right sometimes they stop working,that's why I hate for psych keeping on changing med or doses.

Don't lose hope .Keep on taking them on schedule and slowly you might see results.
We care here at HW.Keep posting .
Cilly

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
i will be starting new med today in combo with my orig one
Thank you

F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 3:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Congratulations carlarenee!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this'll give you some relief. :)

Sounds like things went better than you expected.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 3:17 PM (GMT -6)   
i dont count on it.
good things only happen to winners
not losers

F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 3:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I dunno, I think a med change might be just the kick you need to figure out that you can be a winner.

Everyone deserves a win every now and then. Sounds like it's your time. :)

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/12/2016 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
the nonmedical treatment would be good but insurance does not cover it
and my brother won't let me get that

F27
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   Posted 4/12/2016 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I have that problem too - basically primary mental health care in Canada consists of "Here's a bunch of antidepressants; tell me if they work."

Teaches you how to be self-reliant really quickly.
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