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Date Joined Nov 2005
Total Posts : 1
Posted 11/19/2005 2:26 AM (GMT -6)
I'm BP 1 and I've been on meds for a little over 4 years. I've been on almost everything you can think of for bipolar--even clozaril. A friend recently sent me an article downing prozac and other SSRIs. The article really irritated me. It talked about
numerous studies "proving" that Prozac increases suicidiality in people---to say that, in my opinion, is a blanket statement without paying attention to other many and fine emotional, psychological, physical, environmental variables, other than Prozac, that may cause an increased amount of of the population to feel suicidal.
Also, I've read posts on here from people "warning" others not to take a particular drug because it was the worst thing in the world for them. That really irritates me as well, because again, messages like that are based on only one individual's experience and include major generalizations.
Being that I have been there and have personal experience dealing with this illness and with medications for it, my advice to everyone is become as well-informed as possible about
any drug or therapy you intend to pursue. Ignorance can have bad consequences, and besides, it looks pretty stupid to point fingers and proclaim "I didn't know how it worked" when you've gotten bad side effects from a med that you didn't research before you put it in your body.
Common sense, people.
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Date Joined Mar 2005
Total Posts : 807
Posted 11/19/2005 6:14 AM (GMT -6)
There is no study that "proves" Prozac or any antidepressant or drug for that matter causes people to commit suicide. That's common sense. Depressed people often commit suicide, even when they are taking an AD, esp if it doesn't work for them on the first try; they lose hope. The incidence of suicide on Prozac or any other SSRI, trycylic, SNRI, etc. is extremely low.
We are talking about
SSRI treatment in bipolar disorder on this board, not depression, which is what your friend is referring to. If you have a copy of the article, please cut/paste or give us the link, I would like to read it.
SSRI use in BP is very harmful almost every time, esp without a mood stabilizer. Reason: it causes serotonin to last longer, therefore lifting a person's mood. That usually triggers mania/hypomania in us, which is devastating, as you should know if you are bipolar. Bipolars usually only go for help when they are depressed, therefore, the doctor prescribes an antidepressant, SSRI. This triggers mania, which we love when we don't know any better, so no complaints and we go on to do all the dangerous things we do when hypo/manic. Even with mood stabilizers they usually cause problems with hypomania, panic attacks, severe anxiety, paranoia, the list goes on.
A doctor was on here a couple of months ago to inform us that now all SSRIs are required by the FDA to have a warning to the prescribing doctors to screen carefully for the possibility that the patient is bipolar first because of the problems they usually cause. They are simply not recommended for us.
A few of us do ok on them; if on enough mood stabilizer and/or antispychotic to block the manic tendency, but even then, some BPs will react. Everyone is different.
And people here have every right to discuss their experiences with them and should be encouraged to do so. This is a discussion board after all. Calling people "ignorant" is inflammatory and inaccurate.
If common sense were the key to treating bipolar disorder, we would all be well on the same meds.
Post Edited (psychnurse) : 11/19/2005 10:12:13 AM (GMT-7)
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Date Joined May 2005
Total Posts : 438
Posted 11/23/2005 12:29 PM (GMT -6)
Hmmmmm... Shannon well put. Even in researching the meds you will pursue, to me is great, however just like everyone is different , you will probably have a difference in the way the med effects you. Due to everyone having different genetic make-ups. I don't have time to research a med to the utmost before starting it, due to the fact that I am not well. I do however read a little about
the med. The common things, side effects, symptoms that may arise, and most important complications with other meds. Hey I figure my doc wouldn't prescribe me something that would counteract with my other meds, unless he wants a lawsuit! Lol I am only trying to be helpful, when stating my opinion and experiences with meds I have taken and even had been dx with the wrong disease. Depression first, taking SSRI's , then finding that I am Bipolar. When I read others' posts on here, I find some people's to be very informative and will take what they have to say into consideration before starting a med. Thanks for the great post Shannon, I agree. Sorry i can't be more involved in the board, as time does not permit. kitty Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!
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