Bipolar and OCD???

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crying
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   Posted 8/1/2006 9:47 AM (GMT -7)   
 HI,
I am wondering if some of you with Bipolar can help me out? I am worried about my brother and have been for along time now, he is in his mid 30's and has OCD but I really think he is Bipolar too, Can you have both of those at the same time?
The reason I think he is Bipolar is because he is always up and down and you never know what kind of mood he will be in, It can be kind of scary at times. He can call you up and be in a great mood talking and joking and then if you say the wrong thing or ask him to repeat what he said and BLAM!!!! mad   HE if off the wall mad! But it is like a crazy mad.
OR you can be having a nice day having fun and then out of nowhere he is all depressed and mad like his whole life is ruined!! confused confused confused   And he is up and down all the time!!!!
When I went to visit and stay with him he will have to get up at like 6am the next morning and at midnight he will get an idea to do something get all happy and stay up till like 3-4am to do whatever it was that got him up and happy, Or he will take up a new hobby and go by the best of the best to start his new hobby that last a week or 2.
 
Sorry I am going on and on but I do get rather worried about him!
 
 If any of you out there could give me some ideas on what you think might be going on that would be great!
THank you!

CounterClockwise
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   Posted 8/1/2006 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Crying,

It *could* be bipolar, but my understanding is that this condition usally comes on a fair bit earlier and I don't know how long your brother's been like this or if he's fulfilling all of the criteria. Then, of course, it could be all number of other things (many conditions have some symptoms in common with bipolar), or an exaccerbation of his OCD showing up in a new way. Honestly, I think that the only way you or he can be sure is by consulting a pdoc (does your brother have one already?). Sorry not to be more help!

Rosie x

crying
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   Posted 8/1/2006 1:11 PM (GMT -7)   
He has been like this since he was in his late teens, he does vary on how bad it gets but trying to tell him he needs help is like trying to kiss a rattlesnake eyes , Our dad and mom have never had any meantle issuse but all of the kids my 2 brothers and sister and me all have some type of mental issue, I myself have anxiety, He does not believe anything is wrong with him and sometimes he gets so down about his life! He blames everyone for his problems exept himself, He wont get treatment for his OCD cause he says every doc he goes to is a Dumb! He does things like haveing to turn a light switch on and off 25 times. Touch doorknobs so many times and keepchecking on the same things over and over and over, I really want him to get help cause when he is in his up mood he is so much fun. If you think it could be something else, I would love some ideas.

Ellie 1
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   Posted 8/1/2006 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Sometimes they just have to get sick enough to get sick of it, if you know what I mean. As long as he finds this tolerable, and is no danger to himself or others, there isn't much you can do. Once he's lost enough friends and destroyed enough relationships, he may be easier to talk to about this. Maybe if you left some BP reading material around, pamplets about the disorder from your dr. or some such, he might be more prone to think it's his idea to seek help when he sees himself in the descriptions.
Hope this works out for you both.
Take Care
Ellie
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CounterClockwise
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   Posted 8/2/2006 12:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Crying,

It's so frustrating, isn't it, when someone we love is clearly not well but won't seek help? Ellie is absolutely right: if he's not a danger to himself or to others, you just have to wait for him to recognise that he needs help. That's also a good idea about the reading material -- although don't overdo it because he might go more on the defensive and shut down (I did this once when people were leaving me stuff around the house to do with bulimia... took me years to make the decision on my own to get help!). Could you persuade him to come on here and ask some questions (or a different forum if you're not comfortable with the idea of him reading any of your own posts)? Maybe say that you'd like him to do it for *your* sake, to help put *your* mind at rest (play the anxiety card even, saying that you know you have anxieties about this and it would help you not to worry): often better in these situations to make it less about the person who you think needs help and more about your own needs, even if really you think he needs to do this for his own health.

On the plus side, if your parents haven't had any mental health problems, and if there's no history of bp in the family before them (sometimes hard to know for sure because it wasn't something that was diagnosed years ago, but you could ask your parents for their opinion on whether or not any family members have shown signs of this condition), then there's that much more chance that your brother doesn't have bp as, from what I've read, there's normally a strong hereditary aspect (other members here could probably confirm or refute this from their own experience). Of course this doesn't mean that there isn't *something* wrong with your bro: from what you've described, there is. Again though, without a formal diagnosis, there's nothing much you can do, and it's up to your brother to make this happen. At the moment he's making excuse (docs being rubbish, etc.), but you have given him food for though, and hopefully in time he will come to see the best thing to do.

In the meantime, I really hope that you can find some calm for yourself: I know you must be very concerned, but you must look after yourself and get breaks from the situation to help you be as well as you can. Easy for me to say, I know...!

Rosie x

crying
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   Posted 8/2/2006 9:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the advise it is hard to deal with at times, But As bad as it sounds some days I have to just put it compleatly put the whole thing out of my mind or I worry all day, But As far as putting out some booklets, I will try and now and then hint to him how forums like this have helped me to not feel so alone with my problems and he might try it just to meet and talk to others. But I think it will take him getting so sick of being sick to make him get help. My mom and dad are fine, no mental issuses but they have aunts, brothers, sisters and other blood related family members that do have mental problems. It does seem that things like that run in our family, I guess my mom and dad happen to be the lucky ones it skiped, They just seemed to carry the bad genes to us kids. Anyways
Thanks so much for all of the advice, I have learned alot here!!!
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