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Cheryl1018
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   Posted 9/5/2006 6:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a question for those of you that may know more about what is concidered a suicidal thought.  I am diagnosed as bi-polar and have never cosidered myself to be suicidal even though I have some pretty painful medical stuff going on for years.
 
I have been in a depressed state for a few days now and yesterday I had two passing moments where I was concerned - but then was my mind just wandering?  The first was when I was staring at my bottle of Pamelor and wondering what would happen if I ate all of them. But then I just went back to making dinner.  The 2nd was when I was in my hot tub and I thought about sinking under water and staying there til I popped up.
 
Do these sound like the start of something to be concerned about - or just a bored, depressed mind?  I am at work today and functioning fairly well.
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Ellie 1
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   Posted 9/5/2006 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cheryl;
I think alot of people have those weird thoughts that flit briefly through their minds. Not to say that they should be ignored. It could be that you need a med adjustment. You sound as though your depression is on the rise. I sure wouldn't let that go. And if those thoughts persist and your dr. is unavailable:
National Suicide Hotline
1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)

Don't hesitate to reach out for help. There are also other resources and great support on our depression board as well as here.
Take Care
Ellie
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Cheryl1018
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   Posted 9/5/2006 6:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Ellie. I knew to come to Healing Well this morning as a start. If I don't move out of this state by tomorrow, I will call my doctor. He is usually avalable for me ASAP, at least for a return phone call.
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Ellie 1
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   Posted 9/5/2006 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
It's nice to know someone has a pdoc like that, and good you're not one to let this stew as well.
Healingwell is a great place, there's almost always someone on to answer. Post again if you get to feeling like you need to hon. I've sure had days like that.
Hang in there
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Cheryl1018
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   Posted 9/5/2006 7:23 AM (GMT -7)   
yes, I am lucky about my doctor and also that I can tell now when I am slipping. Years ago I had no idea what was going on but now I know what to watch for.
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CounterClockwise
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   Posted 9/5/2006 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cheryl,

Well, Ellie has already given you the best response to this. Momentary thoughts like this are just that -- momentary -- and perhaps in dismissing them you are also bringing to mind all the reasons why you don't want to chose that path, so maybe these aren't the terrible thoughts you think they are. Yes, as Ellie says, your depression may be increasing, and you could definitely do with chatting to your doc, but don't lose sight of the fact that you are not *acting* on these thoughts, and that's the crucial distinction.

Hope your day got a bit better hun!

Rosie x
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Cheryl1018
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   Posted 9/5/2006 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
So far so good today. We'll see how I do when I get home and away from the business.
Complete Hysterectomy 1991 due to Endo
Fibro/IBD
Migraines - bad ones!! Ow.
Save a life - adopt a shelter dog!!
 


CounterClockwise
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   Posted 9/5/2006 2:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Fingers are crossed for you hun.

Rosie x
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Cheryl1018
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   Posted 9/6/2006 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Just a next-day update. My mood seems to be picking up (but not in a bad way). I'll still keep a close eye. Thank you again for listening.
Complete Hysterectomy 1991 due to Endo
Fibro/IBD
Migraines - bad ones!! Ow.
Save a life - adopt a shelter dog!!
 


CounterClockwise
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   Posted 9/6/2006 11:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh Cheryl, that's great to hear. -- I hope it continues. Always happy to listen and offer any help we can -- even if it's *just* listening! :)

Take care hun.

Rosie x
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wmnak
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   Posted 9/6/2006 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
cher,
 
i belive that psychology uses gradations for suicide.  first is that, i believe, they call "idiation."  this seems to be what you experienced.  most people in this world have this level of suicide.  second there is "gesture."  in this stage a person might drive too fast, perhaps hoping to loose control and "end it all."  this stage is similaly not terrably serious, although there are some people who "get lucky" and manage to kill themselves during a gesture.  finally there is a genuine suicide attempt in which a person crashes their car against a lamp post or shoots himself in the head.  this last type of suicide is very dangerous.  anyone approching it needs to get help IMMEDIASTAELY, as ellie said.
 
hope this helps.
 
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