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GEM_WIND
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   Posted 10/12/2006 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
  Hi Everyone
 
I have a friend whose son is 21 years old has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia he is also HIV positive and a drug addict..she has gotten several court orders for hospitals to keep him but they keep releasing him saying there is nothing they can do for him .She is at her witts end ..she has even been to the media to plead for help but everyone says he has too many things wrong with him and is beyond their help.she is trying to find a hospice or somewhere that will accept him.as of this moment he has been once again released from the hospital and living on the streets ..when this happens it usually takes a week or so to find him..she is desperate does anyone know of a place that will take someone like this.He is a danger only to himself not others.If anyone has ideas please let me know..we live in Montreal
Thanks
Gem

CounterClockwise
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   Posted 10/12/2006 4:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Gem,

Welcome to HW! -- What a lovely friend you are!! :)

To be honest, the difficulty with this is that, unless a person is considered a danbger to themselves or to others, there is nothing that can be done to hospitalise/hospice-ise (?!) them without their consent. And the problem with that is what we define as a danger to oneself. For example, I consider a lot of things that bp leads to as dangerous to an individual, but "danger" is quantified by authorities as severe self-harm/suicide. If your friend's son falls into this bracket, then she can have him admitted, but then it's the same process over and over. I'm not sure what the solution to that is, unless it's cripplingly expensive private care.

The main thing to mention to offset all the doom and gloom that my response so far has given is that the medical world is not as backwards as it was on mental health, and bp, schizophrenia and AIDS *can* be managed: it takes compliance with meds on the part of the sufferer, but it *can* be done. If your friend's son is not complying, then there's a real difficulty; if he can be got to do this, then there is hope.

At present, harsh as it may sound, I'm more worried about your friend: she is trying so hard, and my impression is that, if things are like this, her son is not helping *himself* (and that is a *must* -- even though I know it's easier said than done and I have a huge amount of sympathy for him). What I mean is that she is having to watch att this happen (as are you) and is desperately trying to find solutions (as are you) to something that can only be solved (or rather managed) if her son accepts some degree of responsibility. As I say, I know that sounds harsh, but I'm thinking in terms of the hospital visits he's had and the fact that, each time, he will have been put on a med regime: he has to stick to that, or accept that he needs someone else to take over for a while and *make* hims stick to that until he is capable of taking the responsibility himself. Without that compliance, there's only him separated from the reality of what's going on and your friend watching in fear and pain and trying everything and hitting all the inevitable brick walls.

I am worried that your friend is needs support, and not just from wonderful friends like yourself: she could do with some counselling at the very least. -- This is traumatic for her, and (I must be honest) could be more so unless her son accepts, and indeed seeks out, help.

I wish with all my heart that I had some wonderful idea on how to solve this for your friend -- and I'm sure everything I've written is just the old stuff you and she keep hearing back. If I could think of anything better to advise, know that I would. My heart goes out to you, and so much to your friend, and of course her son.

Very best wishes,
Rosie x

P.S. Please somebody else have better proactive ideas than me!! -- Does anyone know of any loopholes -- anything?!???
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GEM_WIND
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   Posted 10/13/2006 5:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank You Rosie for your reply ..its pretty much what Ive been telling my friend..unfortunately her son isn't willing to help himself which of course i know is why she is having a hard time finding help for him..I was hoping to find some kind of solution even if it was to help her ...thank you for your kindness and have a great day !!!
Linda

judyinky
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   Posted 10/13/2006 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Linda,
Your friend might find some resoures @ NAMI. (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill.) There will be support there for her, I know that for sure, and for her son if he wants it. Maybe she can find some solutions as to how to deal with her brother. I will find the link and post it for you. I don't know where you live, but there are branches and support groups in most cities ran by mental health consumers and professionals. I hope this helps. I'll come back and post the link for you.

Judy
"Hope is seldom found in the things we can see;it is the sweet fragrance of grace."

             

 




judyinky
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   Posted 10/13/2006 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Linda, here are the links. I will look for some more. Keep us posted. Tell your friend to hang on. I have a friend that has a son with everything her brother has except he is alcoholic and does not have HIV, so I know a little about what she is going through. Does she have any other family support?
She is fortunate to have a friend like you. :-)

Judy


http://www.nami.org/

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?
Section=Your_Local_NAMI&Template=/CustomSource/AffiliateFinder.cfm
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CounterClockwise
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   Posted 10/14/2006 5:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Great links Judy! :) -- I'm sure these will be helpful at least to Linda's friend in finding sources of support to help *her* cope -- and there may even be something there that shines extra light on her son's situation.

Linda -- You really are doing great work trying to help your friend and her son. And you know what, it's just occurred to me *how* much what you're doing may help her. -- If the worst comes to the worst, it will make thing so much easier for her to know that it wasn't just that *she* couldn't find a solution (which she might feel mean that she wasn't trying hard enough -- we all tend to self-blame in situations like this), but that yourself, and others couldn't find the magic solutions for her son either. In time that may help her more than anything. That said, I do still hope that her son is not so far gone that he won't accept and even pursue help.

You and she have been very much in my thoughts.

Rosie x
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People are not like fish: they do not work well battered.

When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded...

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GEM_WIND
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   Posted 10/16/2006 2:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Judy,Rosie Thanks so much ..you have been a great help..I print these responses out for my friend and you have no idea how appreciative she really is ..I dont think she ever realized that there is support for her and not just for her son..So even if we can do nothing for her son we have done a great deal for her..Thanks so much for helping you ladies are great !!!!

Linda


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CounterClockwise
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   Posted 10/16/2006 3:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Linda,

I'm so glad we could help even a little bit. Do tell your friend that she is so welcome to come here herself too as well as you, and that we will be there for her.

I love your tag line! -- I recognise it, but I can't place it! (I lose my memory regularly too!!)

Take care, you and your friend.

Warm hugs,

Rosie x
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People are not like fish: they do not work well battered.

When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded...

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judyinky
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   Posted 10/17/2006 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Linda, I'm so glad we have been of some help to your friend. I will look around some more and see what I can find. You might want to post on the AIDS Forum here too. I'm sure there are people on there that might have or know someone who has been in similar situations. I also know of an addiction site that is very good. There is a place there for families and friends of addicts to post. I'll see if I can find the link to it. It's been a while since I have visited there.

My prayers and hopes are with your friend and her brother.

Judy
"Hope is seldom found in the things we can see;it is the sweet fragrance of grace."

             

 




dry
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   Posted 10/19/2006 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I am a great Advocate for your local and county Health Department.  Start there, and let them know he has Aids, and about his other Mental illness and explain to them about the danger he is to himself and to those around him if he is released from the hospital again without proper med and phsyc. management.  Also there should be some positive resources just for his Aids disease where there are living communities for people with Aids and other Medical problems that want to continue living a somewhat normal life and who want to remain self sufficient.  Go to the State Department Of Social And Health Services too and ask them for a referral of housing and help for him .  Stay persistant, and they have to help you there is something they can do to help if you have to go to the Hospitals Head Administrator and explain the situation and also to the chaplin they have programs and resources there to help those in need.  I will be praying for you all of you, and let us know how it all comes out please, and God Bless. 

Post Edited (dry) : 10/19/2006 10:59:48 PM (GMT-6)

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