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nev
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   Posted 3/11/2007 5:15 PM (GMT -7)   
hello, I have a friend who has BP and I want to know what causes it.  She did some pretty heavy drugs for about a year before onset.   It is believed that this caused it.  I know there is already a gene in our DNA for bipolar as is other medical problems. 
 
Do you all think this is right or are other factors involved?
 
thanks ,
nev

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   Posted 3/12/2007 4:14 AM (GMT -7)   

I know that drugs can cause the symptoms to be more severe. BPers can abuse drugs and alcohol through lack of judgement or self-medication. I think it could be a contributing factor in her onset. The main psychological cause is stress - like losing a job , a death , anything that is overly stressful for that person. Heredity deffinitely plays it part too.

Take care Nev ,

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nev
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   Posted 3/12/2007 7:18 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for your reply!

-nev

nev
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   Posted 3/12/2007 7:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone else have an opinion from your experience?

Hope you all are doing well,
nev

wmnak
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   Posted 3/12/2007 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
nev,
 
this is pretty much a chicken and egg situation.  drinking and drug use are fairly common as an attempt to self-medicate when the pain of depression or the stress of mania get to be too much to handle.  or is it that the drinking and drug use cause the depression and mania?  the events are always linked in the same time-frame.  as i understand it, medical opinion sides with smiler on this:  it is the symptoms of the disease which causes the alcohol and drug abuse.
 
if you can find the cause of bp, you are pretty much guaranteed a nobel prize in medicine.  gene?  environment?  substance abuse?  just plain crazy?  maybe all of the above or siomething entirely different.  then there are triggers.  smiler mentioned stress.  yes, that one is pretty common from what i'vwe read.  but each perrson is different and what triggers me might have no effect on smiler or your friend.  and vice versa.  we are all individuals.   ain't that grand?  lol.
 
don't know if i helped you with your query, but at least i added some additional information.
 
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nev
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   Posted 3/14/2007 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
wmnak, thanks for your response. your post sounds so familiar as if you were talking about fibromyalgia( which I have and frequent the fibro boards for support). Of course you would just take out the words bp and mania. Fibromyalgia is a syndrome which has many symptoms and it's nearly impossible to trace where it actually came from. Could be a number of things/triggers and there is not just ONE treatment. But many used in combination just to get some relief. I assume the two conditions share how patients have to work w/ their drs to keep trying different doses, meds etc before finding the right thing for each patient.

The reason I said gene was that my friend had heavy acid, marajuana,(and whatever else the found on the road while following the grateful dead). Then came back home after a year and one night took straight THC instead of extacy. Next day SNAP whatever neurochemical process changed and she has had it hard ever since. The family said it was from that one instance. That is where I got my question from.

You guys have a lot of crap to deal with everyday, and I just want to say I am proud of each of you for networking together with support. As I know with my own conditions, family and friends don't understand and won't even try. My online support is key to getting thru the day, each one. You guys ROCK, NEVER stop the fight!

good sleep to you all,
nev

wmnak
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   Posted 3/14/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -7)   
nev,
 
thank you for those kind words.  :-)
 
there is one thing that you said in your post which really upsets me.  it's amazing how a rumor can become gospel.  i am a child of the 60s - you know where ethe girls burned their bras and us guys were glad for it?  at any rate, we were also the first drug generation.  if johnson could lie about viet nam, what's to make us believe him about drugs?  so many of us smo9ked grass and a few of my generation (not me) dropped acid.  i still remember dr timothy leary, the guru of acid, and what acid did to his career and his life.  really sad.  he was once a brilliant scientist.
 
at any rae, about acid.  the powers that were felt threatened and began an all-out campaign to stomp out drugs in the college community.  they were reluctant to have mass jailings because that would upset good voting and vcontributing mommy and daddy.  so they came up with "scientific evidence" to discredit drugs.  one of these was that acid alters dna and can cause birth defects and permanent genetic problems.  it wasn't until (i think it was) the 90s that freedom of information queries discovered what the rest of us knew.  the people in washington are all liers and crooks.  when the revolution comes, they will be the second against the wall - after attorneys. devil
 
no, it is highly unlikely for a single use of this parti8cular drug to cause the symptoms that you described.  i believe only meth can cause immediate addiction - but this is hear-say - i've never been interested enough to investgate it.
 
hope this helps.  hope your friend is getting better.  give him/her our best.
 
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