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tatirira
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   Posted 6/11/2007 4:29 PM (GMT -7)   
confused  Hello:
This is my first time here. I would like to know if there is any way I can help someone who does not want to admite he is bipolar or anything else, but from what I have searched about he is bipolar. Since he is not accepting his illness he won't go to the doctor. what can I do?

jerseycherries
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   Posted 6/11/2007 5:01 PM (GMT -7)   
i dont think you can force or trick someone into any kind of treatment. so until he's ready you can only try to love and support that person. but not treat them with out them knowing. wont work and i'm not even sure how you would do that.
I am bipolar, have social anxiety, panic attacks w/agoraphobia , diabetes, asthma and high blood pressure. Life is short but i am not.


tatirira
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   Posted 6/11/2007 6:17 PM (GMT -7)   
thank you for your advice

olivia of course
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   Posted 6/11/2007 11:41 PM (GMT -7)   
tatirira,
 
I agree with with jerseycherries, you cannot force anyone into treatment.  Plus, he would have to go to a phychiatrist, a general practitioner or a trained proffesional to get diagnosed.  This could take a while to correctly diagnose him.  Then there is medication and/or therapy.
 
You can't skip the first part, because it will only be hurting him.  You shouldn't give meds to anyone who is not properly diagnosed.  There are so many variables.
 
In the mean while you should educate your self about the illness, there are so many resources out even on the internet.  This is way you would be ready on how to handle the situation if he chance his mind.
 
All you can is hope for the best and he might accept the invitation to go to the doctor.  Best Wishes on your journey, it is a tough place to be.  So hang in there, and many be things will change for the better. 


@~ Olivia

"Don't let your yesterday, ruin your today"


serafena
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   Posted 6/15/2007 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Tatirira, I'm guessing you've already tried this... but just in case,

What you can do is sit down with the person and calmly and gently outline what behaviors are concerning you and why, and offer to help make them better. For example, you might not be able to say "you definitely have BP" but you may be able to say "I'm concerned that you're spending so much money and I think you need help stopping." Maybe you can convince your friend to go to the doctor by demonstrating what your worries are and why you think a doctor visit is warranted.

serafena

2Hawaii
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   Posted 6/19/2007 4:05 AM (GMT -7)   
tatirira, I mostly agree with olivia, jerseycherries, and serafena. I agree there is no way, that I see of that you can force them to consider or accept possibly being BP or to see Drs or to take meds, etc. I also agree that it's important that you dont' medicate someone without a diagnosis and that what you can do for yourself and for them is to educate yourself and discuss what you've learned with them. That way when a manic episode, aggression, or depression hits you and they will know what to do to help themselves and yourself to get through the episode as quickly as possible.

Where I differ, just a little, IMHO if you are the person the BP person is around most of the time and if you are the person who prepares the meals, then you can control a certain amount of their behavior through the foods, liquids, vitamins and herbs they willingly take. I have found, knowing what foods, liquids, as well as situations and my own behavior that help alleviate/soften the BP symptoms/behavior really helps the BP person and everyone around them. I've found by taking and by giving various vitamins & herbs will help control the reoccurrence and severity of the BP symptoms...BUT It's ultra important, that you must really educate yourself and understand what the vitamins do and then only give them with a Dr. or nutritionist instructions / assistance and the consent / agreement of the BP person.

Also, by knowing what the triggers a BP episode & the types of situations to avoid, like no sleep, a fast moving life, emotional ups and downs, lots of stress, poor diet, and what foods or drink may trigger a BP episode, will really help you and the BP person to avoid problems. This is especially helpful when someone will not face the possibly of having BP.

Lastly, it's been discussed on other threads in this BP section about consequences for behavior. Consequences for inappropriate behavior will work to some extent, just as rewards will work to some extent. It takes several things working in harmony to really make a difference in a BP person's life, so eduction really is the key to a better life with a BP person.

One thing that I've not read in the threads on BP (yet) is that the reoccurrence of BP episodes slow down and become much fewer and father between as a BP get older, when a BP reaches their 50s & 60s. about 8 years ago I read, in a number of places, that BP is at it's worst in a BP persons early 20ies. I'm not sure if that is the current thinking, but I do know in my situation and in many others, the BP episodes slow way down in the rate of reoccurrence and the episodes are duller and weaker with age, and life becomes much more normal. I hope that helps you some.
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