Anyone feel better with LESS sleep?

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Ellie 1
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   Posted 7/21/2007 3:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I've read a few threads about people not sleeping, and how bad they feel when they get less than their normal (whatever normal is for us) amount of sleep. Lately, and this has happened before, I feel MUCH better with less sleep. In fact if I sleep more than 4 hours I feel like absolute crap all the next day. Last night I fell asleep, (and I usually don't have any problems falling asleep, its just staying that way that eludes me) and I slept from a little after midnight until just before 3am. I feel great. I'm bursting with energy, maybe hypomanic, but not uncomfortably so. Perhaps my meds have pulled me from the suicidal depression and shot me straight into the other end of the spectrum. I don't care. This is so much better than living in he**. I'm afraid to tell my pdoc. I'm afraid he'll try to "fix" something I don't consider broken.
It was something that I was worried about not too long ago.  I was feeling dragged down.  Now it just seems to be energizing me.  I feel better than I have in years.

Good judgement comes from experience and alot of that comes from bad judgement.
 
You just have to accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. 
 


mogli
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   Posted 7/21/2007 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Ellie,

I am glad, so glad, to hear that you are out of the dark, out of the agonizing pain.  Reading your post, I would most definitely say that you are now hypomanic.  Not sure (can't remember) exactly what meds you're on...what was added recently.  Your pdoc would definitely want to make an adjustment, I know mine would.  That's why he won't put me on ad's, b/c they would cause me to cycle, and be in that high hmanic state.  In a way that frustrates me b/c I would rather feel good than bad, but in reality he's right, and I know better.

In the BP support group I was in, they drilled it in our heads that it was always important to recognize what state you're in, and how to tell.  The less sleep thing...When you're hmanic you not only don't sleep as much, but you don't need as much sleep.  The hmania just keeps this insane energy flowing through you and it just keeps you going.  Personally, I welcome this state for the first two days or so after a depression, but longer than that and I become extremely exhausted.  My anxiety sometimes seems to be so much worse in this state as well, b/c I feel so hyper, it's so fast compared to the depression.

In the support group the occupational therapists would always caution us in this state...to pay attention, if we were getting "too high" it was time to think of ways to bring our mood down a little bit, so we didn't feel so uncomfortable (even if it seems comfortable).  Things like relaxation, slow activities, just to calm down a bit. 

So while I loathe the depression, the hmania I also do not enjoy if it lasts too long.  The first few days of it though, I feel relief (from the depression) and I get so much done around the house, it's great!

Anyway, try to relax a bit before you do go to bed so that you are a bit more calm.  And watch yourself through the day as well. Even though the mood you're in now, you don't feel like you need the rest, you do.

Again, so glad to know you're better, just take it slow :-)


Mogs
 
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--currently not on meds for bp--


Ellie 1
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   Posted 7/21/2007 8:13 AM (GMT -7)   
I"m on Abilify, Wellbutrin, and Ativan. I'm also taking seroquel for sleep, well I'm supposed to but it makes me sleep so hard I'm afraid I won't hear the kids if they need me in the night.
I've been this way for nearly 10 days now. Usuallly by now I feel not energized, but terrible anxiety. It begins feeling like a desperate energy. This time I just feel good. I've lost my focus though. It's hard to finish a sentence sometimes, it's the "distracted by all things shiny syndrome." lol
I will admit it feels like theres one long running unpunctuated sentence going on in my head. Even my daydreams move too fast. I was just so terribly low. So far down this time, probably worse than ever before, that I'm now afraid if they try to level me, I'll end up right back where I was.
Good judgement comes from experience and alot of that comes from bad judgement.
 
You just have to accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. 
 


mogli
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   Posted 7/21/2007 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I totally understand not wanting to go back to feeling so low.  I do.  The crashing part is scary to think of too.  I don't want you to go back there either.
 
So, don't focus on that.  Focus on what I was saying before.  You are recognizing that you may be a little too "high" right now (awesome!) so think of ways to just slow yourself down a little.  If you do feel anxious, go for a walk.  If you can't slow your mind down, try to do something that requires you to focus.  That's hard to do, but if you can do something that requires you to think about what you're doing, once you get into that mode, your racing thoughts will start to go away.  Honest, it can work.
 
If you try these things, you may be able to balance your mood on your own, without the meds being adjusted.  Imagine!  It's always so great to be able to accomplish these things without it being all about the meds.  You'll be so proud of yourself, and it will help you cope with the moods in the future.
 
If you still feel this way after the weekend, you may have to talk to your pdoc though.  If you feel it's maybe too soon for an adjustment on the meds, tell him/her that.  And ask for advice from him/her how to cope.
 
You can also try searching online for techniques or coping methods on dealing with hmania or manic states. 
 
Remember that the focus is bringing yourself down just a little from the high.  It's not about the depressive state or going back there.  Just focus on moving towards the stable part of the scale.
Mogs
 
Bipolar II, Anxiety/Panic Disorder
--currently not on meds for bp--


Ellie 1
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   Posted 7/21/2007 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Crocheting helps sometimes. At the rate I'm going I'm going to have a living room carpet by monday. lol.
Good judgement comes from experience and alot of that comes from bad judgement.
 
You just have to accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. 
 


mogli
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   Posted 7/21/2007 10:41 AM (GMT -7)   

LOL-I crochet too...If that helps then that's something...I'll let you know if I can think of any other activities...I'm a bit high myself today so I'm trying to calm down too.


Mogs
 
Bipolar II, Anxiety/Panic Disorder
--currently not on meds for bp--


Ellie 1
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   Posted 7/21/2007 11:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd rather get up and clean or cook or SOMETHING! With this meniscus tear I can barely walk. I have all this energy and I feel like my head is going to pop off. Somehow I have to drive today, thank god its an automatic. My poor daughter hasn't had her allergy meds since tues. Her script is sitting at Wal-Mart.
My husband was hanging out to help but there was a bowling tourney out of town so he's outta here. It was time for him to leave anyway. We were getting on each others nerves. Thats why we don't live together.
Thanks Mogs, I appreciate the input. Hope you're having a good day.
Ellie
Good judgement comes from experience and alot of that comes from bad judgement.
 
You just have to accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. 
 


Ellie 1
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   Posted 7/21/2007 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
No, not sluggish. I blew my knee out on tuesday. A meniscus tear. I injured the cartiledge (sp) and pulled a bunch of ligaments. Its not that I'm too tired to go anywhere. I'm on crutches and it's a pain in the butt, (and my knee to) just to stand up.
I have LOTS of energy. Just no way to burn it off.
Good judgement comes from experience and alot of that comes from bad judgement.
 
You just have to accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. 
 


olivia of course
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   Posted 7/21/2007 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, yeah Ellie.  I hope your injuries heal fast and well.
 
sorry for the misinterpretation. 
 
Olivia

Post Edited (olivia of course) : 7/23/2007 7:51:57 PM (GMT-6)


mogli
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   Posted 7/22/2007 11:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Ellie,

No problem about yesterday, glad I could help a little maybe?  Hope your day ended well, and hope things are well for you today cool


Mogs
 
Bipolar II, Anxiety/Panic Disorder
--currently not on meds for bp--


olivia of course
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   Posted 7/28/2007 11:36 AM (GMT -7)   

Ellie,

How is your leg feeling?  I hope it is healing fast for you.

Olivie

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