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Trixy's Got Butt Trouble
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   Posted 12/14/2007 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   
My BIL was diagnosed BP and has gone of his meds.  He's in Finland and thinks he is Jesus Christ and is searching for a wife (Magdelina).  His dad is dying and we are trying to get him to see that he needs to come home. 
 
I just don't know what to say to him or how to respond to his email to us. 
 
hey
i am really gla dto hear from u right now, but I am a little sorry to aee that
your don't see the thuth that is happeningn now.   i know that m y da d is
sufffering and dyig  now, but I  ( christ ) have bigger things to be cvoncerned
about now.    My dad knows this and that is why he asked me ....have you found
your girl yet?  .--the last time I spoke to him.  

Obviously I know  how weird nd stuÃ¥id this all looks, but the relationship
between christ and magdalena is the most important thing on this earth. 

like I have told my friends, I would rather be homew  main god money in my own
house ling peacefully, but god wants me here.
so... cant do much else than wait and  see how things go.   I love my dad and
have loved him my whole life, but trust me, god has larger plans. 
peace out
How do I respond?  I don't want to say the wrong thing.  I definately do not want to encourage his thoughts, yet I'm afraid to tell him he needs help and that he isn't Christ. 
Best Wishes,
Trixy (39)
dx Pancolitis, mild, w/more activity on left side & IBS
12 Asacol a day;
1 Rowasa at night during flare/1 a week during remission;
Nexium; Probiotic; Multi-Vitamin; Flax Seed Oil
UC manifesting to other organs: joints, eyes (Iritis) & skin (Erythema Nodusom)
Controlling w/MEDS & DIET (eliminating animal protein, white flour, sugar, dairy, eggs, & nightshade veggies)
Current Status:  11/2/07 Ending 5 month remission w/mini-flare :-(


olivia of course
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   Posted 12/15/2007 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Trixy,

That is a tough situation to be in, the fact that he is in a different country makes it even hard to do something about it. Unfortunetly, he is not on any meds and is in a delusional state. So there is no guarantee he will comprehend what you write to him. I am sorry you are dealing with such a tough situation. I am not sure what can be done about this situation.
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serafena
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   Posted 12/15/2007 10:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Trixy,

I'm so sorry about your BIL's dad. I can't imagine how frustrating this is, but he's just not going to respond logically to your emails. Short of your going to get him, I can't see what you can say to someone this far gone that will bring him home. How awful, he really needs to be hospitalized.

serafena
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Bipolar II
It is a melancholy of mine own, compounded of many simples, extracted from many objects, and indeed the sundry contemplation of my travels, in which my often rumination wraps me in a most humorous sadness. -- William Shakespeare


Trixy's Got Butt Trouble
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   Posted 12/15/2007 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Olivia and Serefena,

Thank you for your responses. I am having to deal with this silently. My DH (my BIL's brother) does not want to talk about this and basically instructed me not to speak about it with him. I'm going behind his back and trying to get help for my BIL. It is frustrating having to do this alone.

I agree that he needs to be hospitalized. I remembered last night that I had received an email from one of his friends in the states about his condition. I emailed her last night (after DH asked me not to) to find out if she had an email address for BIL or a phone number or any information. She replied back this morning with some info. She emailed me a link to his website, which proclaims him being Jesus and how he's performed some "miracles." She also gave me the email addresses to some of his friends in Finland and said that they tried to have him admitted to the hospital, but b/c he hasn't threatend anyone or is a danger to himself or others, they can't take him.

I still don't know how to respond to his email. I think I will email his friends and see what is going on over there. Thanks for your concern!
Best Wishes,
Trixy (39)
dx Pancolitis, mild, w/more activity on left side & IBS
12 Asacol a day;
1 Rowasa at night during flare/1 a week during remission;
Nexium; Probiotic; Multi-Vitamin; Flax Seed Oil
UC manifesting to other organs: joints, eyes (Iritis) & skin (Erythema Nodusom)
Controlling w/MEDS & DIET (eliminating animal protein, white flour, sugar, dairy, eggs, & nightshade veggies)
Current Status:  11/2/07 Ending 5 month remission w/mini-flare :-(


Trixy's Got Butt Trouble
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 296
   Posted 12/18/2007 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I wanted to update. I tried to get my BIL to come back to the states and get professional medical help and if he didn't want to come back here then to at least get help in Finland and get back on his meds. He doesn't think there is anything medically wrong with him.

He still believes he is Jesus and he is there to find Mary Magdelen. He said he knows who she is and is waiting for her to get back in town. He said this is God's plan and his number 1 priority is to get Jesus and Mary Magdeln together. She is the same girl from a few years ago that was spooked by him - his first episode. I am really afraid of what is going to happen to him over there if he continues to pursue her when she has made it perfectly clear she wants nothing to do with him. Even her family has told him to stay away and we keep telling him the same. It is falling on deaf ears.

You were right, nothing we say is going to bring him back to reality. We are afraid we have lost him forever. How does someone with BP realize they need to be on their meds? Does it just take family and friends bringing it up and supporting him or do they just wake up and make the realization on their own.
Best Wishes,
Trixy (39)
dx Pancolitis, mild, w/more activity on left side & IBS
12 Asacol a day;
1 Rowasa at night during flare/1 a week during remission;
Nexium; Probiotic; Multi-Vitamin; Flax Seed Oil
UC manifesting to other organs: joints, eyes (Iritis) & skin (Erythema Nodusom)
Controlling w/MEDS & DIET (eliminating animal protein, white flour, sugar, dairy, eggs, & nightshade veggies)
Current Status:  11/2/07 Ending 5 month remission w/mini-flare :-(


serafena
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   Posted 12/18/2007 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes,

Someone from the family is going to have to confront him and insist he go to the hospital. No one can force him, but yes, an intervention is the best option you have right now.

serafena.
Serafena
Co-Moderator, Bipolar Forum

Bipolar II
It is a melancholy of mine own, compounded of many simples, extracted from many objects, and indeed the sundry contemplation of my travels, in which my often rumination wraps me in a most humorous sadness. -- William Shakespeare


loving frustrated wife
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   Posted 12/18/2007 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Being that he is in another country, he will have to live under their laws. His behavior of stalking may land him in prison there (who knows what their laws are), and while there, may eventually get the help he needs. Or, you can contact the local authority and rat him out and see if they will institutionalize him there? You never know. I know you've tried, but really that’s all you can really do is flag them about him (and the girl he is stalking), and then let it go and let him be responsible at this point. He is quite mentally ill. But the bottom line Trixy...doing it without the consent and support of your DH will backfire on you with him. I know you love your husband, but this is his family, and he should take the lead on this. I am sure he could use your love and support right now as he is in a lot of pain himself about his dad too. Maybe the only thing you should say to your BIL is not to contact you again without him receiving the help he needs. That there is nothing you can do for him while he is in Finland and completely delusional, and you hope that when he wakes up and gets help, he doesn’t regret his behavior and not being able to say goodbye to his father in the end. My best wishes to you. LFW
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