adrenal fatigue & Dr. Wilson's supplements

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goddessAthena
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   Posted 8/9/2008 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone tried the supplements recommended/offered by Dr Wilson for adrenal fatigue?
 
I rec'd my order a few of days ago and began taking immediately. The first two days I actually felt worse and my urine has turned a very dark yellow color.  Is this normal or am i just flushing my money down the drain?  The third day I did not feel as bad after taking the pills; however, I am having much greater issues with the light headedness (when standing) than ever before.
 
When I got out of bed this morning I took about 4 steps and then went down on my hands and knees due to dizzy/light headedness.  That is a first for me!  My doctor started me on Armour back in April for low thyroid, but many of my symptoms have worsened.  My fatigue has been crushing this month.  I am not able to work outside the house, and can barely keep my house clean. 
 
I have read most of Dr Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue / 21st century book.  I perfectly fit the description of adrenal fatigue & thyroid issues, but am wondering if there is anyone out there that has taken his supplements and what type of response did they have?? 
 
Surely I am not the only one to take this stuff?

ktp812
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   Posted 8/10/2008 5:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I have adrenal insufficiency and hypothyroid. I had the saliva test done and my cortisol levels were almost nothing. I also had the neurotransmitter panel done through urine and those levels were all off including the serotonin-dopamine-and I can't think of the 6 others. Have you had the saliva test done. I am on cortef 15mg daily to help support my adrenals. I suffered from unbelievable fatigue/exhaustion for 2 years before finally being diagnosed. I also have Lyme too but I know most of the fatigue was from the adrenals not functioning. I have read Wilson's book but am taking supplements my doctor recomended to help with the energy levels. I just started them so am not sure if they will help or not. They include COQ10-Acetyl-L Carnitine-D-Ribose-Adrecore-and Balance D. The last two I bought from him.
I am sorry I can't answer the question about Wilson's supplements but I know what you feel like. I had exhaustion so bad I thought when I went to bed I would never wake up. If you have any other questions I might be able to help..

goddessAthena
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   Posted 8/11/2008 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for your response. I went to the doctor today and they drew blood to do more tests as well as retesting my levels of hormones. Fibromyalgia has been suggested as well as a test for the epstein barr virus. I have the chronic fatigue, but not the pain that is suppose to go w/these. I have not done any saliva tests yet. I'm not sure if they do those from my doctors office. There is much more that I need to do; however, not being able to work is hindering my cash flow to afford much of what I need to do.

Have you had problems with your eyes? My vision has gone to garbage in the past few months. In fact, today the weirdest thing happened to me today as I was trying to leave the doctors office. You have heard of floaters? If I closed my eyes it looked like a semi-circle of black & white bars spinning - similiar to a ceiling fan. (this is the best description that I can find) As I tried to look at the paperwork to sign I couldn't read it because it was like trying to read something through a ceiling fan. The letters kept disappearing and moving around. Entire sections of vision seemed to disappear and reappear in split seconds. I stopped at the grocery store next door before heading home but had to leave because I became so nauseated. It was a long drive home. My eyes did this for about 35 minutes or so then stopped. I then had the most intense headache /pain between my eyes. I ate a sandwich then went to bed and slept for two and a half hours when I was awakened from a dead sleep by the phone.

I bought Dr Wilson's vitamin and adrenal cell extracts supplements and have just started taking them. He claims it takes about 3 weeks to see any results. Let me ask you? Do you have mercury fillings in your teeth? That is something else that keeps popping up while doing research. The best results that I have had seem to be tied to juicing and detoxing. I just can't afford to do it nonstop.

Thank you again.

ktp812
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   Posted 8/12/2008 5:37 AM (GMT -7)   
The only problem I have with my eyes is I get periods when they get extremely dry and burn for days. Then it will just go away. Sometimes I go months in between times. Once in a while I get little black floaters but not too often. That happens mostly if I have been out in the bright sunlight.
I don't have any pain right now. When I was first sick they did the 8 pain point test on me and I didn't have any so fibromyalgia was really never suggested as a diagnosis. I know from reading Wilson's book that it can take up to 2 years for the adrenals to recover. I am still fighting Lyme so mine probably will take alot longer since even on the cortef my cortisol levels are low.
Those tests are very expensive especially the saliva test. They did a blood cortisol test on me but I read that test is basically useless. The saliva test had to be sent to a speciality lab I think in Washington.
I do have a few fillings and my doctor did check my mouth and said he has never had anyone get better by taking the fillings out. I have improved in the past year so I don't think that the fillings are doing anything. I know there is alot written about this but I just don't think it is an issue for me.
I do alot of detox too and think it helps but it is really hard for me to say. . I am still waiting for two of my supplements to arrive in the mail. I was tested for Epstein Barr too and a bunch of other stuff.  I did want to ask if you have sleeping difficulties. When I was first sick I would be totally exhausted and couldn't fall asleep or stay asleep. It was unbelivable to me how you could be so tired I thought I was going to die and not be able to sleep. I wish you luck with your testing and I hope the supplements work for you.

Sherrine
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   Posted 8/13/2008 8:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Adrenal fatigue is not a scientifically proven condition.  There are many out there that are more than willing to take your money.  Here is a link about it from the Mayo Clinic.  In my humble opinion, I wouldn't waste my time or money.  I want scientific proof and studies before I'll start using a product.
 
 
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soccerbuff
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   Posted 10/2/2008 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Athena, the reason your urine turned yellow is more than likely because your supplements have Vitamin B in them. This vitamin is labeled the happy pill and will turn urine yellow which is also the way you know its being absorbed by the body.

Hope that helps

The Guest
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   Posted 10/27/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey I have been feeling really tired often and have lost interest in things i used to enjoy. Its like I just cant be bothered anymore. Other symptoms include aches and dry skin and eyes, constipation and blocked nose. Ive tried all sorts to sort this out like omega 3 and better diet and stuff but nothing has worked yet. Ive done questionaires online and many say i might have adrenal burnout but ive tried so many thing, startin to lose hope and stuff. I hope it is adrenal burnout cus I have some 7-keto DHEA and hopefully it should be able to sort out these problems n I will be active again :( Thing is sometimes I feel fine and dont feel tired and my brain works properly and stuff but the after about 2 days i go back to tired.

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The Guest
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   Posted 10/27/2008 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I thought adrenal burnout/fatigue/insuficency were the same thing?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/28/2008 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
"Dr. Wilson" of the Adrenal Fagigue fame is a chiropractor and a naturopath, for heaven's sake~! IMHO I wouldn't follow his 'medical' advice since he has not obtained any medical degrees. Adrenal fatigue is the new 'illness' being treated by naturopaths for big bucks to help people deal with modern 'stress'. I guess all those people who muddled thru during WWII, the Great Depression, Polio epidemics, and all the other 'stressful' things that happened in the 20th century wouldn't have had a problem in the world if they could have read his books.

Adrenal burnout is a real disease, also known as Addison's disease, it is extremely rare.

Athena,
You may be suffering from postural hypotension, which is a drop in blood pressure that comes from getting up quickly. Try sitting at the side of the bed for a minute or so before getting up and see if that helps. It's common after lots of bed rest.
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jmb521
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   Posted 12/9/2008 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie,

Are you aware that people thought Fibromyalgia was something that women made up. It took doctors and women and men to do research to figure out what they were dealing with. I haven't decided if I'm going to try Dr. Wilson's supplements....however, I think that saying that he doens't know anything is a bad move. Heck I've gone to doctors who have a their medical degree and can't tell me what's wrong with me and then I figure it out on my own and I don't have a degree. Personally I think that our western medicine is messed up and doctors want to get paid more than they care about their patients. It is conveyer belt medicine and it is horrible.

reenergized
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   Posted 3/17/2009 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I've been recovering from adrenal fatigue for the last two years, and Dr. Wilson's book helped me more than any other! I have followed it as closely as I could and have steadily improved over time. He is extremely knowledgeable and helpful, and has devoted his practice to helping those suffering from adrenal exhaustion/insufficiency since they aren't getting any help from traditional medicine.

I have been taking his supplements (Adrenal Rebuilder and Adrenal C) for the last two years, and as I said, have gotten steadily better. I am not quite 100%, but working on it. I've also made diet and lifestyle changes, get lots of rest (10 hrs sleep per night), cut out stress, and take other supplements as well. More info on my blog at http://addyandme.blogspot.com

shetin
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   Posted 4/17/2009 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   

I realize this reply is far after the fact.  My cortisol levels are high, not low.  Result of 25 at 8am - 1 point above normal.  And result of 41 at 12 noon - 31 points above normal.  Saliva test.

Tried Dr. Wilson's pills.  Tried.  If I didn't take them at the normal time, I woke up with my heart racing like crazy.  Let's just say the supposed cure was worse than the disease.  They made me crazy period.  Jumpy, *****y, and I felt that my world was coming to an end.

I tried to find where Dr. Wilson was EVER registered with any naturalpathic type registries - could find none.  I would LOVE to find a lab that could analize the pills to find out exactly what's in them.  We all just might have been flim-flammed.

 


reenergized
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   Posted 4/17/2009 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Shetin, Dr Wilson's pills are for those with HYPOadrenia, not hyper-. If your cortisol levels are high, you do not have adrenal fatigue, you have something else. Your high cortisol levels may be contributing to your racing heart, etc.

shetin
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   Posted 4/18/2009 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
The pills didn't mention a no-no for people with high cortisol levels. They seemed to infer that the pills were a blanket cure for malfunctioning adrenal glands, period.

reenergized
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   Posted 4/20/2009 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
"Adrenal fatigue is a collection of signs and symptoms, known as a "syndrome", that results when the adrenal glands function BELOW the necessary level...." (emphasis mine) http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/about-adrenal-fatigue.html His website explains the condition his pills are targeting to. Hope this helps! : )

kama'aina
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   Posted 12/1/2011 8:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I've also gone through a myriad of drs....after going menopausal I experienced severe insomnia and went into hyperdrive, I had developed Hashimotos thyroiditis a few years before at the end of perimenopause. The insomnia continued and eventually I crashed with crippling fatigue. Had to quit work. Haven't worked now for 2 1/2 years. I went through 4 endo drs, one family dr, one ND, the ND did tons of tests, determined I had adrenal fatigue. I continued to go downhill despite her efforts with supplements, dietary changes, lifestyle changes, etc. She referred me to an endo dr -I like, but she doesn't think I have adrenal fatigue, of course she only did blood tests on adrenal function. I really have no pain, occasional joint pain, mild, just feel sluggish and fatigued, no stamina. I get very bloated every evening on my right side under my rib. My family dr had me do a CAT scan of upper torso, everything looks normal. Drs have no idea why I bloat, probably something off in my colon and it bloats at night. Now just seeing an endo dr, sleep dr and family dr. I read Dr Wilson's book on adrenal fatigue, and Dr. Teitelbaums book, From Fatigued to Fantastic. He recommends as part of his protocol to go on corvalen D-Ribose....has helped me with energy a lot! I'm still struggling to get enough sleep. Have taken many different sleeping pills. Teitelbaum's protocol includes taking whatever sleeping pills, aids (3 to 7) you can in low doses, to get 8 to 9 hours of solid sleep. I'm lucky if I get a few hours of fragmented sleep. Always build up tolerance to sleep pills making their effectiveness wane. I know I can't begin to recover without adequate sleep. I was always a good sleeper up until I turned 49 when all this happened. I would so appreciate any suggestions from anyone for getting a good nights sleep.
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