Epstein-Barr and Cytomegalo Virus (CMV) Simultaneously. Complications?

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nannen
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   Posted 9/20/2008 3:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I was diagnosed with both EBV and CMV simultaneously 3 years ago (at 17), and have never been the same since.  I was nearly bed-ridden for the better part of six months. Since then, I have had ongoing issues with my spleen, severe chronic fatigue, auto-immune issues, and joint pain/inflammation. I have a positive ANA and an elevated Sed Rate. Most recently I've been dealing with dizziness, shortness of breath, rapid heart rate, and anxiety. Has anyone else had the two viruses simultaneously?? I am curious to know what others are experiencing. I once read a post of a woman who did, and whose symptoms were similar to mine in both their nature and their longevity. Because of this, I feel that there must be others with these issues. I will be going to Mayo in a few weeks, but thought I'd try to be proactive in the meantime. Perhaps someone could provide me with some insight. Anything at all will be most appreciated. Thanks.

jasjas
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   Posted 9/20/2008 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I have EBV bit not CMV. I have been sick for a year and mine started as MONO. I have been bedridden for this whole year.  I have extremely high heart rate and dissiness, lightheadedness and so many more symptoms. Please keep me posted on what happens with you. Did yours start with MONO? Have you been tested for Lyme or Lupus?

nannen
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   Posted 9/21/2008 2:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I understand how you feel and wholly sympathize with you. I hope you feel better soon. Yes, mine did start with mono (both viruses are mono-causing...I got it from them both at once). I have been tested for both Lyme and Lupus and both were negative. I have a couple of Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis indicators, but nothing that could flat-out prove I have either one. Also, I've heard there are many things that could give a false negative for Lyme Disease. One girl I talked to had a friend that tested negative for Lyme disease sixteen times. On the seventeenth, she tested positive. It's just so hard to know for sure.

Zoda
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   Posted 10/31/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I got diagnosed a week ago with ebv and cmv, this after feeling like crap with swollen glands for a while.

I feel like I could sleep forever and don't even get me started with the headaches!! Does any of you experience a killing and constant pressuring headache?

I live in Scandinavia, and apparently the knowledge among doctors when it comes to ebv and cmv simultaniously is not that great. I have been tested for mono many times but I have never had it.

jasjas
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   Posted 10/31/2008 11:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello ZODA, Sorry to hear that you have been feeling so bad. I also have EBV and no I never get the headaches but I know lots of people do. You said that the doctors there arent that knowledgeable about EBV well I'm in US, and it's the same here. How long have you been sick with this? I am going on 14 months now and it's driving me crazy. I am going to post a link to another site that is just for EBV and I love this site.http://www.cebv.org/forum/index.php
if that link doesn't work just go to chronic epstein barr virus foundation.

nannen
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   Posted 10/31/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey ZODA, I'm sorry to hear you're so sick. Headaches are very common with Mono. The best thing I can say to you is WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETELY WELL TO DO ANYTHING. ANYTHING! This is very important. I did not do this, and I am still suffering because of it. Also, please try and find the best vitamins and foods you can. You have to build your body back up. I don't know what kind of vitamins would be available to you, but please, find THE BEST. Things like Colostrum and Acidopholus are very important for EBV and CMV. Also, Cayenne, Lobelia, Garlic, Vitamin C, Green Tea, Cinnamon, and Ginger have major immune-boosting powers. Alternative medicine specialists might be particulary helpful to talk to. It is tempting to not eat or eat junkfoods during this time, but please try and eat as healthy as possible.

Zoda
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   Posted 10/31/2008 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I was diagnosed EBV 3 years ago for the first time, and apparently it only leaves my body alone for periods.
My doctor keeps telling me it is not the same thing as mononucleoses since it keeps coming back.
At the moment I am just trying to survive the day, with a new job and a kid that has just started school over here =/
I tell you it is no fun!!

lucysgd
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   Posted 10/31/2008 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Nannen - your post really resonated with me!  I was dxd with EBV and CMV 11 years ago - and while some periods have been better than others, I too, have never been the same since.  I'm quite a bit older than you are - and I'm sorry you're dealing with this at such a young age!  I am currently dealing with some auto-immune issues as well - really, I'm just stil in diagnosis limbo.  As my signature indicates - I've also been dx'd with fibro and chronic fatigue.  Everything changed after a terrible "virus" that left me with fever and bedridden for months as well....had to quit my job.  I was finally tested for both CMV and EBV after an infectious disease doc advised it (my pcp dragged her feet for 6wks) - which were both positive. 

All the symptoms you mention I have either dealt with - or mostly, am still dealing with.  I have had some remission periods when the symptoms were minor - but I'm currently am in a flare that I can't seem to get out of (a year).   I also have a positive and relatively high ANA, with elev. CRP.  I've been seeing a rheumatologist for a year and a half.  She initially said undifferentiated connective tissue disease, and it seems she is waiting for further proof of specific disease, since she keeps testing.  She also confirmed fibro (3rd doc to do so) and the chronic fatigue. 

I'm very curious if you had a nasty and prolonged fever with your onset, along with extreme fatigue, joint pain, elevated liver enzymes and a terrible headache that involved your eyes - hurting to move them?  I also had a rash, loss of appetite with weight loss.  Ring any bells?  I'm wondering now if that might have been the onset of lupus, rather than EBV/CMV.  What have you discovered? 

I'm so glad you're going to Mayo - please let me know what you find out.  I've pondered doing the same thing many times.  At any rate, I certainly sympathize with the difficulties you are facing in terms of trying to live a normal life.  The heart rate and anxiety issues are particularly tough.  Hang in there.  I hope if there are more of us who are dealing with these same issues they will post. 

Take care,

Lucy


diagnoses:  mono 1972; postviral CFS 1997; fibro 1998; CEBV 2005; UCTD (dx limbo) 2007
meds:  occasional low dose xanax for sleep, artificial tears w/ ointment at night, ibuprophin (none of which manages the problems very well!)
 
We cannot avoid the birds of sadness flying over our heads, but we need not let them make nests in our hair. 
       ~~ Chinese saying as quoted by Helen Nearing


Juanita Z
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   Posted 11/6/2008 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Since originally getting ill with mono when I was 17, I've been dealing with chronic viral attacks for 8 years, and I was found to have both CMV and EBV when I was tested a few years ago. I don't have the same energy I had before, but I don't have the fatigue and headaches that most others seem to have. I just keep getting viral attacks that land me in bed for a few days - swollen glands & sore swollen throat, bad fever, no energy. Lately it has been happening as often as every 2 weeks. I'm on a program of supplements (mainly immunity building) with a medical consultant who has a good understanding of the problem, and he tells me by looking at my blood under the microscope that my immunity is improving, but it doesn't seem like I'm getting better.

nannen
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   Posted 11/9/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   

Wow. Sorry for my delayed responses.

Zoda- I have heard of recurring EBV. I don't have any good information for you besides what I've already mentioned, but hopefully someone who can help will see your post. I wish you the best. Good luck!

lucysgd- Wow. It seems like you have a lot more going on than I do. I'm sorry to hear you've been dealing with this for so long. I know how disheartening and tiresome it becomes.

I don't know much about any of the connective tissue diseases, so I can't provide any info there. Fibro and CFS have been loosely thrown around as diagnoses for the past three years also, and fibro is what Mayo ultimately diagnosed me with. They definitively ruled out Lupus and RA (at least for now), and now I am currently in the process of ruling out MS and other neurological issues(in my hometown).

As for the symptoms you mentioned, not too many of them ring a bell with me. I actually had little or no fever at onset, and even at my sickest since then have rarely gotten fevers. I definitely had the extreme fatigue, but more of a "generalized achiness" rather than the joint pain. I don't know about the liver enzymes or headaches. It seems like maybe I did have the headache/eye issue though. I did not have a rash, but I definitely had weight loss and a loss of appetite.
 
Although Mayo wasn't as comprehensive as I expected, it was certainly the most comprehensive of all my labwork, doctor/specialist visits, etc. It is something that I would completely recommend and I cannot emphasize this enough, epecially for someone in a situation as enigmatic as yours. Please, please consider it. I believe there is a real benefit in giving Mayo a try. I don't know what kind of insurance you have, but mine is covering almost all of the cost, which makes it all the more worthwhile.
 
Thank you for your post. Please keep me updated. :)
 
Juanita Z- Its good to know more about others who are dealing with the CMV/EBV combination. Thank you for your post. I hope your supplements will help. I, too, feel like I have almost zero immunity that isn't rebuilding. When I went to Mayo, though, the doctor suggested that it wasn't that I had no immunity, but rather a slightly overactive immune system. From what I gathered, the two produce similar symptoms. I doubt that helps you, though. Good luck with your supplements. Keep us posted! :)

lucysgd
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   Posted 11/14/2008 11:09 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Nannen, Thanks for your response.   I'm glad Lupus and RA have been ruled out for you!  Was that because your bloodwork was negative - or a combination of lab and clinicals?   I've just had another round of blood tests with my rheumie - finding out the results next week.  Don't know what they will reveal - but my symptoms have been ramping up over the last year.  I've dealt with fibro long enough to strongly believe that there is something else going on. 

I'm sure there are more tests in my future - and I will definitely be considering Mayo or Cleveland Clinic if there aren't some answers very soon.   My 29 year old cousin was just dx'd w/ MS.  I  hope your upcoming tests are all negative - best of luck with that! 

Thanks again for your post - I hope you feel lots better very soon! 

Lucy

 


diagnoses:  mono 1972; postviral CFS 1997; fibro 1998; CEBV 2005; UCTD (dx limbo) 2007
meds:  occasional low dose xanax for sleep, artificial tears w/ ointment at night, ibuprophin (none of which manages the problems very well!)
 
We cannot avoid the birds of sadness flying over our heads, but we need not let them make nests in our hair. 
       ~~ Chinese saying as quoted by Helen Nearing


nannen
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   Posted 11/26/2008 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Lucy. Lupus and RA were ruled out by blood tests, mostly. There were some questions and examination of my joints, etc. by my doctor to verify. Thank you for your kind wishes. My tests were negative, and I hope yours were/are as well! If you don't get answers soon, I hope you can work out going to one or both of those institutions.
 
Oh by the way, with your fibromyalgia do you experience severe sensitivity to flourescent lighting? I have had such a difficult time with this. Many times when I am subjected to this lighting, I become dizzy and feel disoriented. I am dizzy a lot, regardless. And also, do you experience any dizziness after exercising? I often feel this same way after a 15-30 min walk. I know these are somewhat common symptoms, but I would like to hear what others have to say about it. Thanks. :)

lucysgd
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   Posted 11/26/2008 10:17 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Nannen - glad to hear your tests were negative!  I just got my bloodwork back, and while the ANA is still high - sed rate is normal, and I don't test positive for any of the specific AI markers (Sjogren's, Lupus, RA, etc.) despite my symptoms.   My rheumie says it's definitely AI "something", indicated by the ANA - but without the lab test to confirm, she can't make a decisive diagnosis.  She  has referred me to Cleveland Clinic and I'm supposed to start Plaquenil.  My potassium is high and now I'm wondering if that isn't the beginning of some organ (kidney) involvement.  Apparently I have some issues w/ my hematocrit and RBC's as well.  Yikes.  I'm hoping we'll get it figured out soon -

As to the flourescent lighting - yes indeed - I have a problem with it.  I also have trouble with sun sensitivity.  When you are walking for 10-15 min, is it in the sun?  I've had fibro longer than I've had the positive ANA - and I always had some trouble with flourescent lighting - dizziness, visual disturbance and headache.  It didn't happen with every exposure, so I think the reactions had a lot to do with other triggers/stresses going on simultaneously.  A flourescent fixture with a balast going out (flickering) made me feel like I would go into a seizure, and I'd flee ASAP.  I don't really have the dizziness after exercising.  But then, I'm not exercising much these days shakehead

I have learned on the lupus board that many folks that are sun sensitive also have the same problem with flourescent lighting.  If you look on some of the Lupus sites (lupus.org) I think you will find reference to it.  But many fibro folks experience this as well.  I'm assuming it's a CNS manifestation in either case.

Take care, Nannen - and stay warm!

Lucy 


diagnoses:  mono 1972; postviral CFS 1997; fibro 1998; CEBV 2005; UCTD (dx limbo) 2007
meds:  occasional low dose xanax for sleep, artificial tears w/ ointment at night, ibuprophin (none of which manages the problems very well!)
 
We cannot avoid the birds of sadness flying over our heads, but we need not let them make nests in our hair. 
       ~~ Chinese saying as quoted by Helen Nearing


ladybugmandy1
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   Posted 2/21/2009 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
hi all. i have one suggestion for anyone with ebv/cmv/hhv6. do not waste time. see dr. a. martin lernere in michigan ASAP. he is really one of the only ones you who is going to help.

you need some combination of valtrex and valcyte, long-term.

for those of you who have had CFS for less than 5 years, you are very lucky and your chances of recovery are very good.

i wish someone had told me this years ago!

sue

andrean
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   Posted 2/22/2009 8:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I was diagnosed with CSF, EBV, and Fibro in Jan 06. I was sensitive to fluorescent lights and sun. They made me nauseated and disoriented. I couldn't use my flat screen monitor for more than 5 minutes at a time (back lit with fluorescent) because it made my eyes blurry and made me wired. I even bought a low EMF monitor but this didn't help since it still uses fluorescent. Someday, LED monitors will be available and maybe they will work for those of us with these sensitivities.

Anyway, I have been working with high potency enzymes through Dr. Jenefer Huntoon in Seattle and I feel so much better! I can now use the computer for long periods of time but not within 2 hours of going to bed or I am so wired I cannot sleep.

You might want to give the enzyme approach a try.

Hang in there!
Chronic Fatigue; Fibromyalgia; Epstein-Barr Virus; IBS; Food allergies to milk, wheat, sugar; sensitivity to sun and fluorescent lights

I have been helped the most with therapeutic enzymes and botanicals prescribed by Dr. Jenefer Huntoon and Bowtech Bowen gentle manipulation performed by Dr. Jenefer Huntoon


cmvebvlupus
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   Posted 3/21/2009 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was 16 weeks pregnant I found out that I had EBV and CMV combo. The disease also affected my daughter because she had chronic ear infection and disability delay. that happen 14 years ago. i ALSO HAVE ALL THE SYMPTOMS THAT WAS DESCRIBED THROUGH OUT MY LIFE; SUCH AS FEVERS PHNEMONIA, DIZZINESS, ENLARGE SPLEEN, TIREDNESS, DEPRESSION, MOOD CHANGES, LOW FEVERS,JOINTS PAIN, LOW PLATELETS, BLOOD CLOTS,INFLAMMATION,POSITIVE URION CULTURES, CHEST PAIN, SHORTNESS OF BREATH ETC. WHEN MY DAUGHTER TURNED THREE I WAS ADMITTED IN THE HOSPITAL FOR LOW PLATELETS COUNT AND BLOOD CLOTS AND WAS DIAGNOSE WITH LUPUS AT THAT TIME. i NEVER CONNECTED THE SYMPTOMS THAT i HAVE BEEN HAVING OVER THE YEARS TO EBV AND CMV AND NEVER TOLD MY CURRENT DOCTORS i HAD THE DISEASES> I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE LUPUS WAS CAUSING THE SYMPTOMS. tHANK YOU FOR YOU IMPUT NOW i AM GOING TO EMAIL MY DOCTOR about MY DISEASES

Tjbruce
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   Posted 4/2/2009 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Everyone! Just came across this site and feel I could've written it all on my own with my own experiences..just as you do. I have had all the chronic symptoms for 7 years now and possibly may have come across a true answer to my dilemna. I found a dr. that does not believe in FM and is certain there is a virus that started it all and we just have to find out what it is and treat it. That simple! I can only hope so. I will hold off on sharing details since the last any of us need is another dead end, but I am very optimistic this guy can help and if so..I will pass on all the details that could possibly help you too. I am submitting this simply to give you hope as that is truly the only thing that has kept me going for this long. My prayers are with all of you and I wish you a pleasant evening with less pain!

DaDeeVa
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   Posted 6/26/2009 5:35 AM (GMT -6)   
hello to all, I was diagnosed with cmv/ebv in 1993. had nno idea at the time that it does not go away. i was then bedridden for months, and gradually got over it. last march i developeda terrible fever, swollen lymph nodes all over my body, no energy, and my whole entire body felt as if it were on fire, i felt hot all the time. went to 2 docs that did tests and told me nothing was wrong, my husband was convinced i was crazy, and took me to a shrink. which in turn put me on several different meds. the anxiety got so bad i honestly wanted to shoot myself. i finally went back to my hometown to the doc that diagnosed me in 93. i was convinced i had aids, but the test came back negative. i did however find out that the cmv was reactivated, and was told that there was nothing i could do, and no meds to take. since then in feb. i still run fever on a daily basis, and find new lymph nodes swollen every day. my husband does not understand at all and has no sympathy for me. i can not convince him that this is real and there are days when i feel i cant even get out of bed. not to mention my body has hot hot sensations all the time. i dont know if this is from fever. has anyone out there experienced this ??? all i know is that this is miserable. i have been dealing with this for 15 months, and was so releaved to find this website with other people going through this. i know now that i am not alone, and i am not crazy. i know when my body isnt right.maliase, i think they call it, and i so wish it would just go away.my husband says to ignore it, but how do you ignore fever. i am sick and i am tired....very tired...i am not on any meds at all, and i dont know what to do.....but sit here and cry, . anyone out there that can lend an ear, or advice, or let me know you have experienced these things would be much appreciated......................

starpilot44
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   Posted 6/28/2009 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
get a lawyer and file for social security disability-you can't work(EBV is listed with SS as a disability) . you feel lousy take anti-depressants. you can't stop the virus. the only thing is to treat the side-effects-other conditions that occur as a result of the auto-immune disease. My wife developed diabetes 45 days after full physical check, she developed cataracts that needed removal in less than a year, high blood pressure, virtually bedridden. Cleveland Clinic waste of time and gas-lot of testing-no treatment.
get a doctor's note for a massage (tax write off) to keep the body stimulated every few months since one is off the exercise routine. quarterly doctor visits and lab work to be on the look out for the next body system failure: the auto -immune controls are broken! ! !
HUSBANDS-we resent the lost of our wife in all aspects, can't heal her, can't help her-been reduced to a caregiver. try to go to diner once a month to get off the couch and out of the house. go to a movie even if you sleep through it. he needs a break in the routine. ask him what to do about EBV-the more he looks for a cure he will realize your true condition and situation. enough rambling going to watch nascar race with her while she is awake. Good Luck!

prayingforanswers
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   Posted 7/13/2009 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so glad to find this site! My husband has recently been diagnosed with CMV (6/30/09). He has so many different symptoms and I am struggling to find out what is wrong with him. I am just not sure if all of this has to do with the CMV.  His newest problems started on 7/4/09.  He has started having these very strange pain episodes, for lack of a better term. His heart starts beating very hard and his whole ENTIRE body (lips, eyes, tongue, feet, I mean entire body) has this extremely intense burning pain. He says it is the worst pain he has ever felt. He has had 6 of these full on episodes and at least a dozen of them that are not so severe, he says they are tolerable compared to the bad ones. His body hurts all the time! He has a history of migraines and has Tourette's syndrome also, which have both gotten worse. I am nearing insanity... I just don't know what to do!  Please someone help me!

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   Posted 11/15/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so glad I found this forum. I was diagnosed with CMV and Eppstein-Barr on August 1. I spent 6 days in the hospital. I am 55 years old and I have never been so sick. The doctors treating me said they had never seen anyone with these two viruses at the same time. I was out of work for 8 weeks and spent all that time in bed sleeping. It has been 3 months and I am still so tired but that is the least of my problems. I have no appetite, I have weight loss. My biggest problem - liver enzymes were in the high 100s when I left the hospital and now they are nearly 400. I am very worried about this. I am afraid my liver is going to fail. I had a liver biopsy which showed my liver inflammation is much higher than it should be for someone with CMV/EBV. Anyone out there have elevated liver enzymes and did they resolve? Thanks for any help.

gee
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   Posted 12/28/2009 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
buy milk thistle for your liver, @ iherb.com

get tested for lyme, im 55 have cfs, 15years. this year bloodwrk came back 1 band for lyme.

babygirl1022
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   Posted 1/13/2010 8:31 PM (GMT -6)   
shakehead I am 28 yr old mother of 4. Two years ago I got terribly sick. My lympth nodes in my crease of my groin area started to swell, I had fever, nausia, fatigue, headaches, horrible body aches. I could'nt be touched, move, or bearly speek. Now 2 yrs later, Im still sick. I have been diagnosed with cytomegalo virus, then Mono, then heart palpations, cronic fatique syndrom, IBS, Vitamin D defiency, and God knows only what else is coming next. I have been tested for HIV/Aids and every other std, they have all been negative. Lymes and lupus, negative. My antinucluar test is positive one test and neg the next. No one can give me any anwsers. I am not understanding why this is lengering so long. It is like everyone is dumb founded and has no anwsers. I can't have a bowel movement at all with out medication, yet my dr dissmisses any other problems. I am now having a huge lump in my breast with severe pain to both breast and under my arm pit, dr also dissmisses. Can any one tell me where to go or who to talk to to get some anwsers. I feel like my life is falling apart, Im sceared to death.

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   Posted 2/2/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow. We do not really appreciate the good days of having the freedom to get up, get ready and go to a job the freedom it provides you. You rarely think about those who we Leave behind - those stricken with horrible disorders and diseases who would trade their right arm with us - UNTIL the day we can't go anymore - the diagnosis Epstein-Barr Virus - I was just diagnosed but have been sick for months - I'm sorry what is CMV I am still early in all the testing - I want to make sure they cover this - Where would one start; (1) Headaches the size of Mt. Everest (check) (2) salty / metal / burning taste and sensation throat, tongue, pallet, jaws (check) (3) extreme weakness (check) (4) burning sensation running through your body/veins/face/eyes (check) exactly what does antifreeze feel like running through your body - that's it! So tell me
I have had Graves Disease (auto immune) for 20 years - I have had Menierre's Disease (vertigo) for 5 years - now I have EPV? I want the truth is this the BLUE SCREEN of DEATH - I am a big girl I can take it and I have a 25 year old son in Heaven - is this my ticket to ride - or is this just another thorn in my side?

Zijaman
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   Posted 2/8/2010 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello babygirl1022 and sadie57,

I feel confident I have a solution for you.

Up until a month ago I didn't know what EBV or Fibromyalgia was and how painful it is and the effects on ones quality of life. But after
seeing both women relieved of the symptoms in less than a week I knew I had to get the word out.

I am not a doctor but I work with one in my wellness company and we have been help people everyday but EBV or Fibromyalgia are the most chronic cases I have come across.



Gary

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