Post Edited By Moderator (brynn) : 5/11/2005 2:08:12 AM (GMT-6)
Post Edited (brynn) : 3/28/2005 10:33:58 PM (GMT-7)
Sorry about the delay in answering, I'm rather fatigued at the moment and find that I have to summon up my energy to think in a straight line these days....jokes are easy, serious logic is tricky... That's my disclaimer, you have been warned !
Thank you all for your adivce.
To answer Brynn- I do fit into the 'canon' of symptoms, for want of a better word, I just located my most severe symptoms as discussion points.
Snohare- thank you for your time, a lot of the things you described are very similar to mine, particularly the 'telescope' effect- that's what I was trying to describe when I talked about my vision problems.
I'm not on drugs, but I have had an eye test wihch came back as slightly short sighted.
I've seen a chiropractor about my back and neck, but felt the relief it provided was only short term. I think I'll try an osteopath, perhaps it will help.
My fatigue feels more severe than the tiredness I suffered from during Glandular Fever/Mono, perhaps ME/CFS is an innacurate diagnosis, as I haven't had a cold all winter, but I do take tremendous care of myself, with diet, hydration, gradual and limited (very- a brief walk to the shop)and staying off pain killers etc.
Mark- no, I haven't added a low-carb/ no-carb food to my diet- what effect would that have?
Thanks all for your time again, I'm currently enjoying a week's holiday from work, and planning on seeing a specialist on ME/CFS and Candida, hopefully he can steer me in the right direction!
Brynn the human data hoover....! Plug your ears boys, or she'll suck your brains right out through them....
Jon, the vertebral discs I was referring to are held in place by sets of muscles on either side of the spine. It is usually when these muscles are load bearing asymmetrically with the spine curved that the discs "slip". If the discs stay out of place for long enough, the muscles then accomodate to this new position, and will tend to pull asymmetrically on the disc even when it has been manipulated back into place by the osteopath/chiropracter. So if you have several discs out, or discs that have been out of place for a long time, then it's not unusual to find that the relief is only temporary. However, each time the disc goes back into place, it is likely to stay there for longer, and less care needs to be taken to avoid it popping out. First time off though, all you need to do is bend down to pick up one bag of groceries....twist getting into the car seat...pull a heavy door open...you get the idea. My osteopath used to say that he had patients come back to him ten minutes later, because of the seats in certain makes of car. (He was a nice guy, didn't charge them for an encore.)
BTW, if you have stabbing twinges of pain in the rib cage, front or back, particularly related to posture and breathing, this may be a sign of slipped thoracic vertebral discs. Relatively rare, but intensely uncomfortable when they happen, and can cause weird and wonderful symptoms. (They may be able to indirectly affect the vagus nerve.)
The main difference between chiropracters and osteopaths (in the UK anyway) is that the former use equipment to exert leverage, and to be more aggressive in the manipulation they do; the latter usually use gentle probing of the spine and joints for diagnosis, with relatively minor leverage used by hands or fingers in the therapy itself. (Pretty much painless, in my experience.)
Sounds like your fatigue is similar to mine - doesn't have the immune deficiency component that M.E. sufferers have. (I tend to believe more in the US CFIDS paradigm for fatigue disorders myself, as the UK M.E./ Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome model seems a bit simplistic.)
I also control mine mainly by diet and exercise... although "control" is an overly optimistic word, the way my Crohn's Disease is behaving at the moment.
Hey Mark, Sucralose...is that an artificial sweetener ? Or is it just an "abnormal" starch/sugar, like corn syrup and the like ? I'd guess it's artificial by your question about the lo-carb items, as they tend to replace sugars with synthetic sweeteners....?
Crivvens, what genius came up with the idea of chlorinating sugar ? ! Talk about a marriage made in Hell !! Chlorinated anything is bad enough for anything biological, but sugar... Given sugar's potency and ubiquity in cellular systems, that idea's got to be a triumph of the pocket over personality.
I'm happy to say that Splenda seems to be very rare here in Scotland Mark, I'd guess the market here is dominated by saccharin and phenylalanine. (Which I know too much about to ever touch, even if I could stand the taste.) But of course there's no telling what catering packs and imported foodstuffs may have it buried within. For once, I'm glad I have such a restricted diet.
Ralph, it's just that I have had way too much "leisure" time to spend reading. Absolutely years. And I was of course highly motivated to find out about medicine myself, by the utter incompetence of the "help" that was on offer to me.
If you ever met me, you'd know that I'm not pretending to be a normal person...my friends would laugh at the very thought, as I do ! I have mentioned my collection of cuddly toys to you, haven't I ?
I will confess...if my memory had worked properly, if I hadn't had dyslexia...I'd have loved to be a virologist.