INSURANCE company decided I'm taking MS Contin!

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Chutz
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   Posted 1/24/2008 10:17 AM (GMT -7)   
mad  I'm not very happy about this change. I've been stable on oxycontin for a very long time. We had to change insurance companies at the first of the year. When I went to get my script for this month's oxy I was refused.  It's not Aetna's "prefered" medication.  ggrrrrrrr  So a quick call to doc last night, since he's leaving on vacation today, and he's changing it for me. Doc was wonderful about the entire thing but I still don't like it.  The word 'morphine' sends chills up my spine. Probably should no more than oxy but it's my associations with morphine that bother me. The only time I've been around it was when my father was dying of prostate cancer. We used it to keep him comfortable til he took his last breath. 
 
Now, the question..... I've read that the strength ratio between oxy and MS contin is about 1:1.5.....I've been taking 80 mg of oxy/day. When doc called he said I was getting 120mg of MS contin in 30mg pills and discussed options of how to take it.  Does that sound right? I totally trust my doc but just wanted to hear from others who have gone thru this.
 
Thanks in advance!
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Chutz
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   Posted 1/24/2008 10:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much Gramps...your words are always reassuring to me!

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   Posted 1/25/2008 12:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Aw Chutzie, don't you just hate ins companies. It like a bad taste in my mouth anymore. Ours changed too effective 1-1. Our co-pay went from $10 to $20 for PCP, specialists were also $10 now they are $40. Well, I only see 5 specialists. Plus its an 80/20 policy so they gouge more there too. They are slowly trying to make it impossible for a person to see a dr... Ok my rant for the moment. Good luck with your medication....Susie


Chutz
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   Posted 1/25/2008 10:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Susie,

Thanks for the kind words! I picked up the meds yesterday so will wait til the weekend to start. No way do I want to change during a work week. I'll let you all know how it's going.

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   Posted 1/25/2008 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutz.....
I was on the Morphine prior to the Oxy's and I found it worked great as well for me .I was on 60 mgs four times a day plus percs for BT pain..........that was when I was in full blown break outs with the PG

If not in full blown PG I would only take 2 or 3 60 mgs daily depending on how I was with CD and other med issues

I am sure you will be okay with this ........
It did make me a bit tired at first but after I was just fine and it DID help with the pain.....

I wish you all the best..........Luvs my friend.......LYN
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Chutz
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   Posted 1/25/2008 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for the encouragement Lyn! It really does mean a lot to me. I'm going to give them a try starting tomorrow (Saturday). Will report in...lol

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   Posted 1/26/2008 1:37 AM (GMT -7)   
According to the narcotic conversion site at www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi   your Dr.'s dossage suggestion should be right on the money.I hope your change over works well for you.Morphine is the only drug that works for me and I've tried oxycontin,fentanyl,dilaudid,and lidocaine infusion for chronic pain over the last eight years.God Bless and take care........Rod

Chutz
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   Posted 1/27/2008 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much Rod! I took is yesterday and had headaches all day, but it nearly kept the pain under control. It's encouraging to hear that it works so good for you. Will continue today and hope for a better day. Don't want to have headaches while at work on Monday.

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Chutz
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   Posted 1/27/2008 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for keeping watch over me Gramps....someone needs to!...lol I already take something for the big C. Oxy does it too. Will watch tho to make sure I'm getting enough.

Hugs to you!
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   Posted 1/28/2008 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
So, Chutz, how did your first workday go with the new medication? Hopefully your headache at least diminished some. It will take a little time to switch over and your body to get used to it, but I hope the pain relief is better...I really hate insurance companies who think they know better than the doctors.
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   Posted 1/28/2008 5:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sue!

And thanks for asking. It really does touch my heart. I did well today. No headaches and the pain level is nearly normal...whatever that means. Took some perc's during work but that's normal also. I hope things stay about the same. May have a fairly easy transition. I may get lucky! I'll keep ya posted.

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   Posted 1/29/2008 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Good luck to you Chutz, I hate the insurance game too! the doctor wanted me to have a discectomy to help with the spinal stenosis and insurance denied it. I'll be going for more injections (not steroid) and a rhizotomy on same day next Weds 6th of February. Hope the Ms Coitin works for you, it just put me to sleep with not much pain relief.
Wish you and everyone a painfree day...
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   Posted 1/29/2008 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   

Chutz,

ii feels like i never left this forum, except that the insurance companies are more blatent about practicing medicine without a lisence.  nono .  based on my experience, you have received some eccellent advice on this thread.  if it may help (i owe you chutz, from when i was on this forum about 6 months ago), i will relate my own experience.  after i fell down a flight of stairs and hurt my back - noone ever called me "graceful!), i saw a chiropracter who really helped a lot.  she referred me to various neurologists and orthopedists for evaluation and for pain meds.  i was rxed almost everything in the book, eccept narcodics because my "pain wasn't that bad."  I will never figure out how these quacks thought they could get into the pain centers of my brain and do an evaluation.  mad

after a yearof staying pretty much stationary, my wife and i counted our sheckles and came to the incontrovertial fact that we couldn't pay our taxes let alone our mortgage.  eventually we moved to the rio grande valley of texes and have been there for about 10 years.  while in texas i was able to get some heal help with pain control.  i was rxed ms contin, percs, etc. 

i was doing reasonably well, then on a trip to alabama to visit our daughter it hit the fan.  i don't know what happened, but my back went south almost overnight (and i don't really like mexico well enough to stay there).  as soon as we got to the city where our ydaughter lives i made an apt for pain mgt.  i was rxed percs 3x/day.  i left the dr's office , took a perc, then had a pain explosion which rated somethere between a 9/10.  my wife phoned the pain management dr and he rxed morphine sulphate for pain.  so far so good.  side effects should surface with in 1 - 4 weeks.  PLEASE tell your dr about any side effects.  some of them can become life threatening.

hope this helps, chuz.  sometimes a memory dump can help.

 

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   Posted 1/31/2008 9:07 PM (GMT -7)   
my dear friend and fwllow sufferer. my mind, body and spirit show the ravages of at least four lived during this incarnation. :)
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   Posted 2/1/2008 12:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chutzie!

Hope this message finds you well and pain free!

Just wondering if you got my e-mail? I'm just really looking forward to a good talk, Yes!?

Another late night and the cough is back and the pain is off the charts. It seems that the Lyrica is not only wicked but, counter-acting with Oxy.

Lots of prayers going out tonight...helps keep my mind off myself!

Please get back....Luv and blessings, Funnygirl

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   Posted 2/1/2008 3:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Funnygirl,

Yes I did and I sent you a short message back. I've been busy beyond belief but this weekend will slow down a bit.

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   Posted 3/20/2008 4:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutzie
I did have headaches for a couple of days but slowly they stopped
I believe Gramps has something with his theory ........He is great at his input and advice IMHO

Hoping you all th best for a great and Happy Easter hun you so deserve it

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   Posted 3/20/2008 4:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutz, I was on ms contin and it worked great for me . I dont forsee any problems. if you have any call the dr on call right away. I hope you have a lpd.

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   Posted 3/20/2008 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutz, have you ever tried Duragesic patches ???? You change them every 72 hours... it contains Morphine, but does not have to be digested through your Liver and Kidneys.... I cant get by without mine....

WMNAK : I would almost bet that the humidity change is what caused your flare up... I had a Freind whos Doctor told him to move to Houston or further South to help with his pain... I go to Florida about twice a year, and I feel 50 times better while Im there.... Hope I was some help to somebody...

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   Posted 3/20/2008 10:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Another thing ... My insurance company cuts me off every year before Thanksgiving or Christmas.. It takes about 2 weeks to a month to get my lawyer to get my meds back.... I guess its there way of saying Merry Christmas..... :>)

Chutz
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   Posted 3/20/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Sheesh wild! That's just not right. Any idea what's going on? Can you jump the gun and go after them just before Thanksgiving and get the OK before they dis you???

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   Posted 3/21/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Nope, have to take them to court every year... I would think by the time they pay the lawyers, and the judge it would be cheaper to leave me the heck alone... :>) Now Im fighting with them over my Doctor..
They wanted me to see a new Doc. that has an office 2 1/2 hours from me.. First of all w/ gas costing over $3 a gallon I cant afford to see him... Second, I would feel like someone stabbed me with a dull pitch fork in the back and shoulders after driving that long.... and Third, my lawyer said that the Doc. they want me to see dont even see patients like me... So, while Im waiting for the judge to make another decision on a Doc., I am without meds again...... I paid for 1 script "$800" but can not afford it again.... They dont seem to care... I told them that both the steriods, and the patch say not to stop taking without stepping down the dosage.... They both will give you a heart attack... They still dont seem to conserned... My lawyer probably dont care either, but I cant find anyone around here besides him to fight with them...... So I sit here with an occasional tear running down the cheek from my back, shoulders, hips, wrists, knees ect. ect.
blah, blah.. hurting like hell while they are dragging their feet.... I am on less than half of my regular dosage because thats all I could afford.... Last time they cut me off I had withdraws really bad, and did not want to do it again... ... "dang, did I go on a rant or what".. :>) lol

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   Posted 3/21/2008 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Rant away! You might try going a bit 'higher'. Start with your state insurance commissioner. Also, write to your local legislators.YES, you heard me right...your senators, state and federal, and representatives. It's election season and they want good press and happy voters. We just contacted one over a motorcycle track unofficially going in next door and racing with no mufflers for hours on end. Get to emailing and writing Wild and if you need some help let me know. I'm not too bad at letter writing. My family even asks me...Who got the 'Letter of The Month' this time Mom? ....lol..

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   Posted 3/22/2008 1:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutz said...
Start with your state insurance commissioner. Also, write to your local legislators.YES, you heard me right...your senators, state and federal, and representatives. It's election season and they want good press and happy voters. We just contacted one over a motorcycle track unofficially going in next door and racing with no mufflers for hours on end. Get to emailing and writing Wild and if you need some help let me know. I'm not too bad at letter writing. My family even asks me...Who got the 'Letter of The Month' this time Mom? ....lol..
DITTO. Complain to anybody and everybody you can think of. Make lots of phone calls to your State/City Dept of Health and work your way up to HCFA (Health Care FInance Administration). Don't stop calling and writing until youfind someone willing to help you end this nightmare. I wish you the best! 
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   Posted 3/24/2008 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
How you making out Chutz.........

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