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hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 4:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I think when I got on pm 2 years ago I was so happy that someone was going to help stop the pain that I didnt realize just how much of my life I had to change. I feel so lucky to have a pm doc that I feel selfish to to be angry about the things I cant do anymore.  But in the past month I've been feeling so blah.  I know I'm probably depressed and I do have a bottle of cymbalta infront of me that I'm afraid to take as I have a fear of meds(you wouldnt believe how long I stared at my first bottle of oxy before I convinced myself to take it!!) But I know eventually I'm going to have to bite the bullet and just do it. But do anti depressants make you feel happy and change the way you feel? what do they really do. I've beeen doing these treatments that arent working(everything for IC only works for 50% of people) I've always managed to convince myself that I would fall into the 50% for at least one treatment, and even though there isnt any treatment that has a cure they can help or cause a remission.  But I feel like I'm running out of options and have finally realized this condition may be forever.  And that thought is exhausting and overwhelming.  Will anti depressants change that feeling or just help me to be okay with it.  Because I dont have a paying job but have managed to stay active in my community, I have alot of time on my hands(hence why I'm on this forum 10 out of 24 hours) so I have a million hobbies, but how much longer can I really make soap and bath stuff...my husband wants to kill me because I've filled every cabnet with stuff we can never use up in this life time!! I guess I just want to know if anti depressants made a big diffrence in the way anyone feels. My doc perscribed them for pain, but I'm sure she thinks I'm becoming a little depressed too.
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sjkly
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   Posted 2/1/2008 7:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Antidepresents are a lot like the other treatments you discribe. They each work a little differently and they work differently for different people. The one you are staring at is prescibed for people who's depression includes a lot of physical symptoms. It is not a happy pill. When you first take it you probably won't notice much of anything or maybe a feeling of your emotions being in a fog. After a while if this one works for you you, or the people around you, will begin to notice that instead of being detatched to grumpy as a baseline you will be a lttle more alert, active and that you will be more likely to feel a little hope for the future.

hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 8:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the replies...I'm just kind of lookind for someones own experience as to what an anti depressant did for them, not the text book description. I really do appriciate the replies though. Maybe I'll have better luck on the depression forum
Thanks for the suggestion gramps-to look at the precautions...I unfortunitly usually do...sometimes I'm so floored by all the warnings. Some seem like more trouble than any possible benefit!! But I'll pay special attention to these
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Chutz
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   Posted 2/1/2008 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Hazel,

I too was afraid of taking antidepressants. After my son passed away I went emotionally down hill farther and farther. My doc offered help but I was going to 'tough it out'. Silly me. I finally couldn't take crying all the time and being so 'down' so I asked him for some help. It took trying several different antidepressants to find one that worked for me without too many side effects. That's very normal. Also, after a couple of years, if you still want/need to take them you may have to change. They seem to loose their efficiency. But how they worked for me is....it made me more like ME again. No 'highs' or euphoria, it just brings you back into balance and lets you return to who you were before. If someone who didn't need andipressants took them they would likely feel nothing. It's not going to make them suddenly happy. That's not how they work. They restore balance to the chemicals in your brain. I was silly to wait so long.

As for cymbalta, personally I wouldn't consider that a "regular antidepressant". Like sjkly said it's for people who have pain problems. But something like prozac, effexor, lexipro, celexa...those are the ones you'll most often see used for depression. I've tried all of those and right now am on effexor. But like Gramps said, be careful and follow directions very carefully. Keep in touch with your doc. It takes several weeks for the effects to start to show. For me it was less than that.

Good luck and keep in touch,
Chutzie
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hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all so much for the replies. Part of me really wants to take it, and although I do feel depressed I dont know if its situational and just a down couple of moths or something that is going to continue and I should take the extra help. I hear what your saying chutzie, I too have a tendancy for the 'tough it out' way of going...but I guess when the help is there, its there and I should take advantage of it. Just like the forums..thought I could handle everything all myself...but even visiting here everyday has really helped me feel like I'm not alone. I'm glad I finally realized I dont have to be super woman...( like everyone around me doesnt see through that anyhow!!) I guess there is no harm in trying it.
But I totally understand how you feel Gramps when they push for a certain drug because they get something out of it. I heard Cymbalta is really hot on the market right now. I wonder what the docs get in return for pushing it??
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hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 2:52 PM (GMT -7)   
gagabonnie-I'm with you, I wish there was a pill that would just make you happy with one dose. I too see everyone walking around so happy and wonder what it is I'm missing. But hopefully this cymbalta will work and I can get in on the secret too.
There is only one medication I've had that made me so happy I wouldnt care if my house is burning down. Its the one they give you if your really anxious right before going under the knife. I dont know what that stuff is, and the anetisia guy said its only used for sugery...and I can see why, but if they could bottle that...war would end!
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hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I've heard of quaaludes. Too bad they dont make them anymore, because it sounds like we could all benefit from something like that, I would love to have a good laugh at my pain...what I wouldnt give to jump around, run, dance...Maybe they have something in the works that will make us forget what physical pain even is...ahhh, what a crazy dream!!
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hazelB
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   Posted 2/1/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
You can say that again...'certafiable' to everyone else
Hope your night is as pain free as possible Gramps...keep dreaming those dreams...stragber things have happened!!
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PAlady
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   Posted 2/2/2008 9:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Hazel,
It's important for all of us cp sufferers to know that the same neurological pathways & biochemistry that create chronic pain also create depression. It's related to the same neurotransmitters, and that's what effexor and cymbalta - more than the other anti-depressants like prozac - are designed to help with. The depression is definitely NOT in our heads, and the right anti-depressant, at the right dose can help you feel more like you. It's true as has been said anti-depressants aren't happy pills, and you have to take them every day for them to work. Frequently they take 4-6 weeks to reach maximum effectiveness, and you may have some side effects. Some common side effects can go away in a week or two, but your MD or pharmacist can tell you what to watch for. I'd just suggest you give consideration to trying one. Living with cp is bad enough; add depression and life really becomes bleek. I speak from one who knows. I tried cymbalta and it helped with the symptoms in my feet, but I had some problems because I also have a seizure disorder and the cymbalta seemed to affect that, but I had no other side effects. I'm seeing my neurologist this week and am going to ask for effexor, as I can't stand the depression and crying and feeilngs of hopelessness. Thank goodness for this board!

hazelB
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   Posted 2/3/2008 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanx PAlady. I reallly had not even considered that the same neurological pathways are the same for cp and depression. That makes alot of sense. I just have a huge phobia of meds, which ironically I treated at one time with....meds. I dont know where it comes from or why. Actually scratch that, it comes from the place every irrational thought comes from, my parents:):). But its not just that I'm adraid, its an actual phobia. It even stretches to meds that I took at one time but havent taken in a while. Its crazy and I could probably beneifit from a good shrink!!! I'm completely irrational when it comes to that. Oh well, someone has to be crazy...may as well be me!
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TexasJen
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   Posted 2/4/2008 8:43 AM (GMT -7)   
gramps, you're cracking me up! 714 sound familiar? LOL! :-D

hazel, I started taking lexapro a few years ago for depression - years and years of it since I hit puberty. My attitude was like that of my family: get over it, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps and get on with it. Sometimes that worked, most times not. I can thank my dog for finally getting treated. When he died, I completely fell apart. Cried all the time and just couldn't stop. I was lucky. The first pill made a huge difference. It's not a "happy" pill, but it clears the cobwebs out of your brain so life isn't just an overwhelming black hole. My brother has a very ill 4 year old son, and I had to do some big time PR work to get him to speak to his doctor about his depression. He finally started lexapro a few months ago, and now he is dealing with everything so much better. He is simply amazed at the results.

One way to avoid side effects is to increase your dose much slower than the doctors usually recommend. Both me and my husband felt like we had a charcoal pit burning in our stomachs the first few days, so we cut the 10 mg pills in quarters. It took a couple weeks to get to the full dose, but escaped the gastro issues that way. I don't know about cymbalta, but drinking is a huge NO NO with lexapro. My husband and a co-worker discovered that one beer too many lead to memory blackouts where the entire night was wiped out of their memories. Apparently that's not at all uncommon with lexapro.

If cymbalta doesn't help you, Lord knows there are plenty of others to try. Even if it doesn't touch your pain, having a clear head will still help you deal with it all better. :-)
Living in the Republic of Texas minus a gallbladder, a couple of cervical discs, appendix, uterus, and 18" of colon; but still alive and living with my husband, 2 dogs, 1 cockatiel, 1 quaker parrot and 2 gold fish. 


TexasJen
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   Posted 2/4/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
ROFL! Thanks for the trip down memory lane Gramps. Maybe I should change my id to Grammy since I've just seriously dated myself. :-D
Living in the Republic of Texas minus a gallbladder, a couple of cervical discs, appendix, uterus, and 18" of colon; but still alive and living with my husband, 2 dogs, 1 cockatiel, 1 quaker parrot and 2 gold fish. 

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