Post Edited (03Mach) : 2/5/2008 6:52:22 AM (GMT-7)
I myself take my pain medication exactly as perscribed, I would do NOTHING to jepordise me continuing to recieve them as in reality
these medication's give me life, and I'am certain I would not be able to continue on without them they are that important to me
just last week completely out of the blue I was sent to a lab to take a very accurate and drug specific urine test completely out of the
blue. This urine drug screen is so accurate that it not only identifies exactly what type of drug is in your sample but also shows the
amount of the drug in your sample this is to show the doctor that you are taking the medications being perscribed but also that you are taking them as perscribed as the concentrations of the drug is also shown
As I said this type of test came without any warning every appointment I must give a urine sample for testing but this is only a general test for common drugs of abuse this other one is very very accurate
I have also the day of my appointment been called and told to bring in my meds for the doctor to count to ensure they are all their he has done this with everyone I have since learned not just me and if their was a discrepency I would be immediatly dropped and cut off just like that I know he has done this with lots of his patients NO detox or Methadone treatment nothing just cut off and suffer widthdrawl with no help
Sir I do not know what you mean by cutting your oxycodone in half and this binder thing are you saying you are cutting a time released or extended release med in half if you are you are defeating the release mechanism and getting all the drug at ounce
if this is the case and your doctor found out I think he would be pretty angry with that
Unfortunately, there are those who are undertreated & are forced into taking more than prescribed. When your pain meds aren't relieving your pain & your dr won't increase your dosage, it's hard not to take an extra pill. Undertreated CPP's show a lot of characteristics as addicts but they are only abusing their meds to relieve their pain. The term for this is pseudo-addiction. It's easy for us who have adequate meds but there are many who don't have access to good dr's, proper meds, dx problems, etc that cause pseudo-addiction. We have to be careful not to judge. It's those who abuse their meds for recreational purposes that make it difficult for us not those w/ untreated or undertreated pain. Can anyone here honestly say that if their meds were cut in half tomorrow that they wouldn't take extra pills in a day or two when the pain became unbearable?
You are right Gramps, it is easier to stick with "as prescribed" when we are receiving adequate relief and the proper diagnoses. I'm not so sure I would be able to say I'm a good girl and wouldn't cave in and take more of my meds if my pain increased or my dosage was decreased. I would probably have to take temptation away and store my medication at my parents house, locked up, having them dispense exactly what is allowed per week or every few days. We do need to be careful not to judge because we are all in this fight together, and it is an uphill battle, if any one of our circumstances changed tomorrow we would probably be singing a different tune, I could just about guarantee that I would. I guess I am still naive in my thinking that my doctor and I are in this together, too, because if push came to shove and it was me and my doctor's license against the DEA I am pretty sure I'd be the one on the losing end of the battle. I can only say that "for now" I take my medication as prescribed, but all of the the tomorrows may be a new battle.
I do take my oxycontin as prescribed, within 1-2 hours. By this i mean I am supposed to take them 12 hours apart and the odd time I will take them say 8:00am and then 6pm. My doctor has increased it to 40 mg q 12 hours but the problem with that was I have 3 kids and am not able to function. Way to sleepy, but I am also on other drugs-non-narcotic that make me sleepy as well. I am seeing a pain management Md tomorrow as my meds are not very effective. i've tried take them 20 mg every 8 hours and this helps but wondering if maybe they should switch it to a BT med instead.
My pain is caused by RA and Diabetic Neuropathy. Narcotics do not usually work well for this but I have pain in the areas surrounding the joints. Anyway I need to find a solution and feel sometimes that there is no solution and this is as good as it gets!
Aftr reading this post I though I would chime in again for myself in reality have I ever wanted to take more med's than perscribed due to increased pain or pain not controlled the truthful answer is yes many time's but I never have simply for the reason's I described in my earlier post of drug specific urine test and random pill counts but also for the main reason is if I take more one day I have to make it up on another day or if i continually took more I would run out of med's early a option I refuse to explore not only would I have uncontrolled pain I would also have sudden widthdrawl and I will not go through that by any actions by myself I get exactly enough medication for a specific time period he will not give any extra and he will or has ever given a early refill no matter what the reason even if legitimatly stolen with a police report no exception's with this guy
In the past I had a doctor who had his ability to perscribed pain med's suspended by our goverment here no warning to me at all went in one day and was told no more pain med's can be perscribed just like that I searched and searched and found no Dr. to help so when I ran out the widthdrawl from these med's are absoluptly horrid the worst plus you have the pain go completely out of control to contend with also if I have anything to say about it I will never go through that again they really are that bad and the higher the dose the worse they are and prolonged
If I could I would take less to try to build up a small amount extra for any emergency like I had before but with the amount I get I can not and yes as stated above I in the past have been severly undermedicated for what I need them for cause it takes so long here to get MRI or test's so I know what that is like also and it is very common I feel right now I'am undermedicated but I am so very grateful I have atleast som medication cause it truly gives me a life
As for the cutting in half of time released medications myself I only know the Oxycontin and doing that is dangerious I know if any of my Dr's found out I did that I would be kicked me out the door as for any other type of medication I have no knowledge if a Pharmacist and the maker say s it is OK than it is OK I was told only split med's to take half if they have the score line on them Myself if I could cut a medication in half and it was ok to do it in a attemp to take less and get by with less than I certainly would no question at all
Mach03, many CPP's take their meds as directed. You mentioned in your last post about getting up at different times to take meds ie; getting up early that going to bed early. Personally, I have other health issues as many do and I also take insulin injections therefore I make sure that I get up at the same every day and take my meds at the same time. Doesn't mean i don't go back to bed but keeping a schedule is something i have control of.
Gramps, you mentioned about if people would take extra meds if their meds where cut in half. I hate to think that this happens in the United States and I'm sure you have heard many horror stories. I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I guess I would do what I have to survive. Chronic Pain has pushed me very close to the edge a few times but I've been fortunate to have a good medical team which includes an Oncologist, Rheumatologist and Primary Physician. Even with good Doctors I still have a lot of pain and I'm not very confident that this will ever be resolved, it's been so long.
Just wanted to mention as well that I live in Canada and although I heard a lot about abuse with meds the people I know with chronic pain have been as lucky as I have been.
I am disheartened by the fact that so many have to live with so much pain every day without proper care. If it were high cholesterol or blood pressure we were speaking about we wouldn't be hearing about MD's cutting patients meds. It makes no sense.
Take care all
Post Edited (Mochiah) : 2/6/2008 10:24:17 PM (GMT-7)