Has anyone ever stolen meds from you?????

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Centurion
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   Posted 2/6/2008 3:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I usually keep my meds in my medicne cabinet in my master bathroom..reallly no need to hide anything..its only my wife, my son and I...So we had some people over for the superbowl and I was unaware that one of the people who came over had a problem with pills...So today I was counting my meds cause I have a doctors apt next week..just wanted to see where I was...and Im 15 pills short...so I immediately called a few friends and they explained that this person probably took them....
 
It was hard cause most people dont know I take pain meds...not something i advertise....My question is..how do you approach this person..I highly doubt that hes just going to be honest and say yea i took them.. and my other question is..what the hell do i do till i go back???

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   Posted 2/6/2008 6:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I've had a friend (well... some might call him a friend!) take some of my meds before. I use to just keep them in the kitchen on the microwave since it's just me and my wife (and my sister in-law at the time, but she cool) and they were safe I thought. Well we had some people over, which we usually don't do since we aren't the most social people : ). Turns out this dude that came is big into drugs... drugs of all types! Well he got into my percs, took like 10 of them. I never would have noticed except one of his better friends gave me a heads up on what's up. I called him out on it, and he was just like sorry dude I didn't know you needed them for back problems... blablabla.. luckily I always have extra at the end of the month so it wasn't really an issue for me. Now I have them in my lock box.. As far as what to do about running out early, i have no idea what to say! I know thats a red flag thing to tell your doctor. How long have you been on the pain meds? Have you ever had to call in early before (for any reason. ie. lost pills, stolen pills, dog ate my home work, ect...)? I'd approach the person who took them, but that's just me I can be an a-hole and have a pissy attitude (I also don't care much for people who STEAL mt stuff). I don't know you or the person who took them so it's hard to say what you should do. I feel for you though! If you do approach them, I'd like to hear how it goes down.. Keep us posted about how you handle the person who took em, and how you deal with the shortage.

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   Posted 2/6/2008 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi,

As most of us here we need all of our meds and I too count them from time to time just to see if I have enough befor my next Dr. vist. I know for a fact that there are people out there who have addiction issues (a family member of my own) who vist for what ever reason and ask to use the restroom and they check your medicen cabinet for any drugs that they can steal and abuse. they have no disreguard for you or your situation as they are addicts. be careful.

P.S. I keep mine locked up.


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   Posted 2/6/2008 9:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Sadly, yes it's happened to me before. It was a co-worker and her husband who were over for a small pool party years ago. They ransacked my home and just threw everything they didn't immediately eat into her purse for later perusal. It took me a bit of wondering why they were both so loaded all at once, and they got so bad that my husband and I had to drive them home. In the process of getting them out of our home and into the car, her purse fell open and out spilled the entire contents of my medicine cabinet. Unbelievable. I had no idea she and her husband had a drug problem, and had never told anyone about my medical situation. They apparently made it a habit to check out the med situation in any home they went to. Needless to say, that was the LAST time they were ever in my home.

As to what you should do. Confront this loser! Tell him you expect to have whatever meds are left returned. Of course, he'll lie through his teeth about it. Then, you pick up the phone and make a police report. If you're going to stand a ghost of a chance of refilling the missing amount, you'll need the report to back up your claim with the doctor. Some docs won't even accept that, but nevertheless, it should be reported.
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   Posted 2/6/2008 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Centurion,

Bare minimum, file a police report as was suggested. It will save your caboose when it comes to your doctor. You might use a little um.....blackmale...to nail whoever did it. Tell them you're going to get the police involved if they don't come clean. If someone does come clean, call the cops anyway. May not sound nice but look at the situation this person put you in. And obviously one of them has a reputation. I wouldn't hold back. I hate thieves and liars more than anything...yes I said HATE!
 
Luckily I've never had anything stolen but I keep it pretty quiet as to what's in there. Looks like I should lock things up anyway. Thanks for the advice.

Hugs to you Centurion,
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   Posted 2/6/2008 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   
This is so pathetic, isn't it? I mean the cp itself is bad enough, now we have to lock things in our own homes even to protect from unexpected guests?! Believe me, I know it's true; I work with addicts, but this thread also got me thinking about repairmen/women, etc. I live alone and leave all my pills on the kitchen counter so I remember them (not that I'd forget, but it helps me keep track of what I've taken plus it's a hell of a lot easier). Now I realize I should especially pay attention if I have anyone in the house I'm not 100% sure of. Of course, like many of us my social life sucks, so there aren't a lot of visitors. Most people tire of just visitin with a cp patient who doesn't feel like doing much of anything - or can't do things because of pain. Anyway, I digress. I do agree with Chutzie's post about the police report. It also confirms my little practice of building a small stash of extra pills for myself for emergency purposes. Mind you, it's a small stash, but on a day when I take 1 less pill, I put it aside in a separate bottle in my dresser, so I have at least a small handful of pills should anything happen and I not be able to get my meds - theft, change of MD's, etc. I don't know if your MD will give you any extra; like the earlier post said, it may depend on whether this is your first time asking, and your relationship with your PCP. It's so sad; we're rarely believed. I had one of my pills roll under the refrig and knew I couldn't get at it, and felt like crying because you know you can't go to your MD with that kind of story. Anyway, know we all understand, and send hugs. If you can't get any extra meds or get them returned (and I'd be leary of taking anything some addict returned to me - how do you know it's the same drugs they stole or not some counterfeit junk) then I'd suggest trying to stretch what you've got now a little bit by lengthening time between doses, etc. Plus use every other tool that helps even a little bit - heat, ice, etc. And I iknow it's not a cure, but some form of relaxation, and assuring yourself that while it's bad it won't last forever, can help you ride out the storm. I know from firsthand experience my anxiety can sometimes get the best of me and make everything even worse than it already is. And i"m NOT implying this is all in your head - just that when we get scared we tense and pain levels are even worse.
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   Posted 2/7/2008 1:23 AM (GMT -7)   
My phamacist warns all his CP customers NOT to throw out their empty narcotic pill bottles with the trash because there is too much information contained on the label.The quantity and type of pills as well as refill dates and your name is way more info than you would want a dumpster-diver to be able to sell to any home-invasion types.I only take out enough narcotic pain meds to last a few days and keep the rest under lock and key.

Centurion
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   Posted 2/7/2008 4:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Well heres an update...I tried calling this person about 25 times throughout the day and hes obviously avoiding my calls...I called his older brother a friend of mine aswell and explained the situation and he said hes going to deal with it..and he asked me to give him a day to deal with it before going to the police...again...Its just me my wife and my son who cant walk yet so..I really have no need to hide..well havent had a need....but i will now....I used to lock them up all the time..just seemed pointless...I GUESS NOT HUH....I called my doc today and explained that it was a friend and that I was trying to get them back but chances are theyre gone already..and he said to keep him posted and he will try to help as much as he can......and really sounded sincere when he offered to help when i figured it all out...so he told me to just come in 3 days early as its not a big deal and chances are the police wont do anything as its been 4 days...again my fault...but lesson learned..that will not happen again..and no ive never had any problems missing meds before..I always tell him upfront if I take extra throughout the month...

Centurion
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   Posted 2/8/2008 1:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all your replies...

Question for you though? Why if we live in a "civilized" society (and i use civilized loosely), do we penalize people for having chronic pain. Let me explain. You go to a doc and he gives you lets say 90 pills of anything..and in a normal month you are to take 1 pill 3X a day. Whos to say that every day of every month is the same. Why do we limit the amount of medication..(within reason of course) My pain is at a constant 4-5 with meds...9-10 without..but my point is my pain level depends on my activity level as im sure most everyone elses does too..but do the docs assume we just sit and dont move all day?? How are we supposed to live normal lives...I am frustrated with this beyond words..I have missed out on allot because I cant take an extra pill to do what ever activity it might be...as Im physically limited but there are still thngs I can do and again within reason but without the freedom and freewill to choose..I am locked into living my life based on a shcedule of my meds...and that just seems obsurd when they can give you the standard 90 and and extra 20 for emergencies...One would think that would be the common sense thing to do...Just a thought...

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   Posted 2/8/2008 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Common sense doesn't exist where government regulation is concerned. Doctors and patients alike suffer because of government interference in our care. We can all identify the problems, but what to do about it? I just don't know...
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   Posted 2/8/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Gramps I'm not sure I agree with you entirely, but you raise some very interesting points. I bet many of us have had, for example, nerve root blocks. I spent 3 summer in a row going through a series of them, each with different PM doctors. I wonder if these injections have ever cured anyone - yet they are enormousy expensive. I am a believer in PT because I've learned had 2 great PT's in my life (and also some bad ones) without whom I'd never have survived this long. But I'm angry about the fact that things like acupuncture - which could help a lot of of manage (but not cure0 our pain WITHOUT the same side effects as the drugs, are rarely covered by health insurance. This, of course, attests to the strength of the pharmaceutical lobbyists, but I don't want to get political here. But I really wonder if we surveyed everyone on this board how many of these high tech treatments have actually worked for more than a few weeks time. So you're right about that - we seem to end up on the drugs as a last resort. (As a sideline, I have a friend who's the wife of a doctor & she's a chronic pain patient. She, however, can afford to get accupuncture treatments at $100 a pop. She gets 4 treatments/month and says it's changed her life....if I had the money I'd get them, too, but I can barely pay for my health insurance premiums.)

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   Posted 2/8/2008 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I was just reading the postings regarding the stolen pain meds. and most recently about the chronic pain/accupuncture issue.  It is a real tragedy that most insurances and especially the ins. co. for the military do not cover accupuncture or chiropractics.  I am a nursing student who just happens to have a rare, incurable (so they say) autoimmune disease.  If so, then true to this disease process, I will be faced with chronic pain as it degenerates.  I am not there yet, and have read in a neurology magazine about T'AI Chi as a method of management.  It is not really expensive and has had great results.  I have just gotten ahold of a CD and hope to give it a try as no one in my area does T'ai Chi.  Has anyone else heard this?

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   Posted 2/8/2008 1:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Gramps-
 
Thank you for taking the time to reply.  I will let you know how/if it helps.  As I said before, I am not to the point where the pain keeps me from doing alot of things.  We bought a new mattress with the memory foam stuff and it has helped the pain in my hips.  I really just have had to get used to the constant feeling of being 'aware' of my hands.  I try not to concentrate on them. 
 
:-)  Lady Hendley

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   Posted 2/8/2008 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I know that T'ai Chi and many of the eastern based approaches can help manage pain, and even more I think manage the anxiety and depression and sense of helplessness, although they may not be curative. T'ai Chi in particular is wonderful for balance, and helps prevent falls. But Gramps has a good point about who is teaching such things. When we in western medcine (I am a health care provider....please don't throw stones, I'm also a cp patient!) "borrow" from the eastern traditions we usually extract only a piece of the whole. What I mean is that most of these practices come from a spiritual or even religious base, and are meant to be INTEGRATIVE of body, mind and spirit. It's not just about taking a yoga class and learning to stretch; the positions (asanas) have emotional and spiritual significance, but quick fix western practitioners often eliminate these important components. So finding teachers who are based in the ancient traditions IMHO is the best. And they may be on video! I've seen David Carradine's Tai Chi on public TV and found it very easy and useful. You might even check your local library and try a few out before for variety. And an excellent source of relaxation materials can be found at healthjourneys.com. The woman who designs these is named Belleruth Naparstek; she's a licensed clinical social worker who started out working with cancer patients at the Cleveland Clinic, but has now branched into many other diseases and conditions. Her tapes for surgery are given out free by insurance companies in California as they have shown patients who listen to them use less post op pain meds. Mind you, these resources will not cure chronic pain conditions, but can help us manage. And I for one need all the help I can get!

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   Posted 2/8/2008 2:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm not so sure I can agree that some of the procedures done before starting narcotic medications are done as a way to increase the pain clinics income. If Dr's were not to try these procedures before starting pain medications the patients could be missing out on an alternative to oral medications. Of course they do increase the clinics and Dr's financial income, but this is true for any buisness.
Anyone would be pretty upset if they were not provided with a procedure pr therapy that could be a huge benefit to them.In my view narcotic pain management is a huge risk to the patient. While largely beneficial at times, narcotics can be dangerous and damage the bodies internal organs. It would not sit well with me if I wasn't given the option to try other therapies before narcotics. Even if those other therapies included things that didn't work for everyone. If they were completely useless they would have no place.
Why is it that we all(including myself at times)forget that Dr's need to make a living too? If we want to be angry at anyone it should be the unaurance companies. They are blood sucking leeches. There the ones deciding what they cover and what they will not. And don't forget the Dr's are at there mercy also. My PCP was just complaining the other day about a procedure that they didn't cover for him and one pill that cost him 75 bucks at the pharmacy. Dr's also spend the most money going to school and need to pay it all back. My uncle has been in medicine for 15 years and still owes for med school!!! Everything is a pretty penny these days.
But although I'm new on the boards I've been looking through the forum(I can barely post because I don't have a computer only a blackberry) and have noticed that every topic seems to have a debate or two sides to it. I guess pain management is an ongoing debate for everyone.

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   Posted 2/8/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   

Ok, I have to add my 2cents here. This is going to shock quite a few of you. My 1st pain mgt dr was a young guy that fell into a mini gold mine. He took over the practice of an MD here that wanted to retire and get into more research. The dr that retired was the only one here that did accupuncture. Most of his patients were elderly people with arthritis problems, one lady actually took her arthritic poodle to him and hell he treated the dog. Think that didn't knock me for a loop. But these were wealthy people that went to him. Accupuncture back then was considered just short of quackery.

Two things I learned straight from the horses mouth. Accupuncture rarely works on acute chronic pain. ESI's rarely work, if anything the patient ends up in worse pain. They are nothing but a money maker for the dr and the facility he uses.

At my insistance he did try accupuncture and he was right, no benefit at all. I asked about doing the series of three ESI's, thats when he told me about them. Although, later down the road he got hooked up with an anesthesiologist and was doing the ESI's. I would still be a ptient of his today, but he died of a heart attack.

Drs are only going to dose our pain medications to us as is recommended by the pharm. company. They are not going to go out of bounds of the recommended dose for anyone.

For those interested, last year the pharma. companies spent 37 billion dollars for research and such. They spent 51 billion dollars in advertising. Now doesn't that put a knot in your gut!!!!  Susie



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   Posted 2/8/2008 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Pharmacies and insurance companies leave a sour taste in my mouth. I'll tell you right now insurance companies dont give a darn about you, they just want your money and dont want to give you what you paid for. Its the biggest fraud in
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   Posted 2/8/2008 11:13 PM (GMT -7)   
America today. I used to have to deal with Ins companies at work. If a patient was suicidal I had to prove why they should remain in treatment. Killing themselves wasnt enough for the Ins company to cover them. I think there are some docs who are only in it for the money. But most of them are surgens. I agree they swindle us. I think that if they didnt offer anything else I'd be upset. Its a catch 22. Things work differently for everyone. There are some people who say, all they wanted to give me was pain pills and they dont work for me. I know a handful of people who say accupuncture is great and a handful that say its crap. But I guess thats true for everything. I'm more angry at all the TV stars and athletes who make millions for doing next to nothing. I try to think at least docs can keep you from dying(in some cases) Docs arent supposed to do harm, but even that seems like a fine grey line. My obgyn did me tuns of harm and I could have sued the pants off her, but ended up just letting it go. cant decide if I should of, as I'd be rich myself right now and with a pile of med bills that would have done me much help. I'm not sure the way docs are in America will ever change. The medical profession is idolozed by society(western society) You ask little kids what they want to be when they grow up, more than half say DR's. The only way any of us will get a break is if we change to a government form of health care. In the UK, everyone gets the same care from the government. Everyone is covered for the same things. But even they have to pay out of pocket for certain things. Just not anything like it is here. Its the American way to be over indulgent and money hungry. Its not always right, but it has become completely out of control. And it does completely suck. I guess the question really is, which ones see us as a pay check and which see money as a seconadry perk. Those are the ones we should see. They'll all want money, but some wont crawl over our lifeless body just to get it. I truelt believe the good ones are still practicing.
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   Posted 2/9/2008 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
There are drug companies wooing docs all the time. My mother who is a sec in a doc office always used to come home with the best food from a lunch or diner. You want loster, you get lobster. I dont know about the Vaca's but I'm sure it happens. They dont care if the drug kills you, they want the docs to buy it anyway. Like all the hoopla with Oxy and the company who was selling it. Saying that it was less addictive and dangerous. Saying that patients could take it at doses that would ended up putting them in the hosp for ODing. I'm still on the fence if some of the doc's actually bought all that BS publicity or they just agreed to perscribe it through a sea of caviar and chamage provided at a drug dinner. I cant believe pain docs are that ignorant and persuaded taht easily that any narcotic is safe and not as addictive as all the rest...for heavens sake addicts will take anything to get high, even anti-depreesants. Everything that makes you drowsy or uppy is addictive even tylenol PM...okay I'm getting off topic. At least we agree on something gramps...Its a start:)
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   Posted 3/8/2008 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
it's a very unfortunate situation I've had people friend and family steal my meds they seem to prefer my 30-100mgs of morphine it's a shame i have sickel cell disease and i am in cronic pain i only take morphine when it get very bad, i hate the way it makes me feel i tend to take hydcodon or oxy for milder pain, sometime i wish people could switch place with me and see how it feels to real need your meds i would give anything to be healthy and not have to use these drugs, people fail to realize that this not some type of leisure pill use... i have to use the meds to make it through life, and keep out the ER the longest I've went with out taking any pain meds in the past 2 mths has been 3 weeks I've very proud of myself, i make sure to keep my meds locked up, people need to stop abusing the meds they don't realize that there are Many people out there who really need these drugs and there making hard and hard for the ones who need it to get it.

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   Posted 3/8/2008 5:11 PM (GMT -7)   

Calling your Doc was a good move but I still would have filed that police report since your meds were short and had you been under a contract at a pain management clinic and got called in for a pil count and came up short you would have been cut off right there and then and no matter what you said at that point in time it would not have mattered.

They can if they chose replace what was stoled only if there is a police report and still then it is up to them and most Docs will only do it once and no more no matter what happens to them.

I knew a girl that was in the Katrina thing and her meds were obviously lost in the flood and because she had to have them replaced after they were stolen once years earlier by her BF they could not or would not and she suffered tremendously for almost a entire month. A shame on top of everything else she had lost including her Bil and was having to sleep in a school gym on a cot!

I cant urge you enough to go to Walmoar and buy a safe, I use one with a key and a cobo lock and it is bolted to teh concrete foundation in a closet in my bedroom. I am responsible if those drugs fall into the hands of say a child? Even a teenager for that matter and the numbers are high for abuse in that age group.

It cost about $59 which was not even close to the amount of the meds i lost to someone visiting that helped themselves once.

Even the bottle I keep in my purse with a few in it are in a locked bank bag also cheap as my bank gave it to me and i know they could take the entire bag but it makes it a little more complicated for them as well as I dont have to worry about my 3 year old grandaughter ever getting into them.

It was a few months ago a couple were charged with murder in the death of their 8 month old son whom died from a methadone overdose and it took months for them to figure out how this happened,he couldnt walk or even crawl up to where they kept the meds and the police and everyone thought they had ot have intentionally gave him the meds. Turned out they did not but had used a dropper to give him tylenol for teething pain and they had used it for their methadone from clinic which was liquid and didnt get it rinsed out good enough. Tragic really and very very sad but things happen and I want to make darn sure it doesnt happen to me or mine.

As for your fear of running out of meds or not doing something becuase you dont have enough meds to combat the pain well that is just ridiculous for one your on a short acting med and if your script is for 3 on a as needed basis and you are taking 3 each day then it is time to move on to a long acting med as this is the reason for their existing,the ups and downs of short acting meds is deplorable for most CPPs as you really never obtain any comfort level since it takes time to get into your system and peaks before time for another one and then wait in increasing pain for the next dose and by that time it takes hours to get relief again for another few hours? Not me.

Please talk to your Doc as he seems to at least listen to your concerns and let him know your requiring all 3 of your alloted pill in a day and still having a great deal of pain and is it possible to be put on something with a 12 or 24 hours lifespan and not all of these hold to those hours they are suppose to but it will be much better then what you are doing now.

 

Stray I also have heard the same to how both of those things really work and I also have from reading in forums for years found it to be mostly true. I think alot of Docs feel as though they have to at least make note of trying other methods to relieve pain for you before justifying using narcotics and again this is Docs jumping thru hoops to preven being singled out by those watching.


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   Posted 4/1/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I have to post on this subject (although you guys kinda went off the subject)(but its ok I do it reg basis) anyway first I would like to say in comment to everything discussed that I just read...I have to tell u that Gramps....u and I think a lot alike.I totally agree with you on it all.I have never had luck with my health my care or my docs or the outcomes so much that that's why I have half the probs I do.if I had the guts yrs ago that I have now(from being sick of it all) I might not be such a mess.and I have had similar probs.my saying is I feel like asking the docs(and no offense please palady as im not referring to u hust ones I had/have) but I wanna say"are you in the business of hurting people cuz that's all u do at least from me and what I hear?"but I have my own dilemmas and bad things with my docs.as far as the stolen meds....YES! Been there and I will tell u all my story cuz ur situation turned out a lot better than mine.however,I am gonna put it in new post in a second here cuz its quite a story for some people to learn from cuz I did as it affected my whole life til present and haunted me and caused me yrs of stress and aggravation.the prob was just recently resolved after over 4 yrs.so something for people to listen to and learn from.and I will follow it with a question for u all and anyone that can't give me an accurate honest answer.
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livng@thedrsoffice
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   Posted 4/1/2008 4:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok so here goes.and sorry if I jump around a lot.that's the mental and adhd so bare w/me and try to follow.as I said before I have serious chronic pain and have 2 tests left to go for.sm bowel end. And the camera w/ultrasound tip to look @ my panceas to see if I have chronic pancreatitis.as that's what my gi doc said is possible.anyway they have brushed me off to pain manage ment center.whatever.cuz they can't pinpoint the prob and because my anti spas med doesn't work for the c.abd.pain and I need the dilaudid for it my ibs(final verdict accord to gi who was laughing at me)and I need my ultracet for my back and flexeril they are no longer going to care for me and control my pain meds as they have been for quite some time.instead they r making me go there.Now,I have been there in past for my endometriosis for chron.abd.pain as well.same place,same doc as who im havn this time.not good cuz things didn't turn out so welland this is why.u still with me?I was married when I used to go to p.m. about 4_5 yrs ago.this man ruined my life.I had lot of health stuff like usual and surgeries.so I was alaways on pain meds.however I was married to someone that was an abusive person.not a come rite out and punch me but close.he was mean and hurt me physically many times.exam:u know my knee situation rite now with the immobilizers and crutches.well when I had same thing one time back then he kicked me in the knee hard knowing how bad it was.anywayhe did much worse things than that.and he always took my pills.there was one point I carried them in my bag by my side.I would have to call my docs and try to explain and got the 3rd degree.my doc said I should turn him in.I didn't cuz I was a weak person and was terrified to turn him in as I figured he would prob kill me which he was very capable of as he threatened me before that he would and did many screwed up things to me.so I took the fall.I started goin to pain center and he had taken the last of my pills and maybe I didn't fully read and undertsand the pain contract and stuff thoroughly or my head was to messed up from him.well like I said he took the rest and then he had some tylenol 3s and I was dying.no pain med.u know what that does.I needed relief so I had taken 1 or 2 of his.I wasn't trying to be mischevous,I was desparate for relief.well I don't know what happened but they drug tested me at p.m. And said they would no longer give me my perc.only ultracet.no other pain med.I was devastated.I once again took the fall,the blame for something I didn't do.they thought and these couple docs back then as well that I was taking all my pain meds.I would cry and I don't know if they thought I was guilty when I was crying,but I was crying everytime it happened because I was hurt and angry and too afraid to tell all these docs what was really going on.all I could say once in a while was its not me,he's takn them.I took on all the blame for yrs.and they stuck it on my record that I was allergic to opiates,to perc,and to vic when im not.they also put on there that I had severely abused narcotics in past.do u know what affect that has to someone that has a million health probs and tons of pain all the time.even when something would happen and they were about to prescribe pain med and then turn around and say oh wait I can't cuz ur allergic and the abuse.yup I got so angry and hurt everytime.I would cry and suffer for so long like u wouldn't believe.anyway up until this past yr and few months they did this.I would tell them til I was blue in the face.and then one day I snapped and lost it and didn't care anymore.I looked at these docs sincerely and said can I tell u something.cuz I had enough.I was suffering and being treated unfairly like a drug addict for something that wasn't my fault.I shouldn't have been so weak.but anyway I finally lost my temper and spoke with a nurse one day and explained everything to her as well.she took the allergy off there becuz u legal.can't put it on there if its not allergy.and then I thought it was all set and it still said allergy to opiates.still more probs.and then after my last hosp stay and having to be on a strong med,I filled it 1 or 2nd time no prob. Then I forgot that I used diff pharm and the doc was gonna call it in(before we knew u couldn't call it in)and this pharm said they wouldn't fill it anyway becuz I had allergy to opiate.....well,that was it that blew my fuse.I lucky recently had acquired a patient advocate(becuz of other bs hassles with docs office)and she had helped me greatly with other issues.well lets just say I gave her a call and let her know thati had had it and that I have no allergy and I do not abuse.and that I am seeking my legal rights just so they know.....well....I got a phone call next day and my script was ready to pick up and wouldn't ya know it...miraculously my record is empty and clean out of no where finally.I don't know what happened but I continually count my blessing for my advocate who clears the communication barriers and is a huge support.soooooo.my question now to all of you when I spoke w lady to set up appt for pain center this time asked if I had been before I said yea and she looked it up and said I would have same person and I said my docs said they wanted me to come here becuz they said u would be able to control my dilaudid and do months supply rather than the few amounts they were doing.then her voice went from pleasant to not so pleasant and she said oh um ur seeing kathy again oh I don't know ,that's something she will have to talk about with you.ok well I have mental issues pesronality mood thing..I get paranoid and non trusting of people so am I just thinking too much.cuz now my brain is saying.I've been takn the same meds for long time now for my back.ultracet and flexeril.and they been using dilaudid because my stomach is severe.I even saw what doc put on referral to them.she said on all the questions that my pain is severe resulting in disability.but now im panicking and worried that when I go she gonna say she won't give me my 2 pain meds.mainly my diaudid as my probs never end and either gets worse or something else goes wrong and end up in hosp stay for wk.againand my pain has been very much increasing .and I told nurse today when I called to see if my doc could give me just enough pills for next 9 days when I go to p.m. Cuz she only gives me 1 a day which isn't even enough.gi was giving 3 day .anyway.so I think that's what's gonna happen and I think even if I try to explain whta happened back then they won't listen.and then im screwed and will suffer horribly and may as well call it a day.so im dreding goin again but have no choice.and I do everything these docs want me to and still have suffered.until I flipped and stood up for myself and put my foot down.so what do you think? Am I worried to much and being paranoid that that's what will happen?or will they see that obviously I don't abuse them when my docs have prescribed them all this time and that I've had many health probs and injuries since then that require me to take pain meds for constant severe pain?please give me ur answers and opinions I need them.im going in 9 days.and not lookin foward to it.and I am sorry for this post being 5 novels long,but I sincerely feel that anyone that stumbles across my story whether today,next wk,or months, will learn something very valuable from all this.I was weak and it took me long time to grow courage to leave that man for good.it took me long time to speak out about things he did.and I accept responsibility for my choosing someone that was bad in my life.however,since then,I have become very strong as far as that part goes.I always keep my meds like they locked up in a vault or alcatraz.if I discuss my meds with certain people and someone walks near or I know they can hear me,I whisper or wait til no one can hear me.I do everything to protect myself from ever even coming within miles of a situation like that ever again and if something ever in the rest of my life ever came close to somebody takn my meds id beat the...haha just kidding....but I would turn them in to the police without even a second of a thought.I would escort them myself.cuz I will never go thru that again or ever be weak like that or deal with someone like that.I have even cut everyone out of my life except for those 5 people I told u about becuz I knew the other people were bad for me in one way or another.and lucky for me I have a strong loving bf who is different than any kind of person that's ever been in my life.and he doesn't even take medicine or like it .doesn't go to docs.u have to force him.and in 4 yrs I have never had to worry about anythinng w him.we have a very strong connection and he knows everything I have been thru in my life.and he is the best thing and loves me like no other.so anyway,that's my story and the lesson.please give me your responses and answers....(aside from the fact that I wrote 5 novels)lol :))))
Chronic pain,buldging disc in spine and little scoliosis(don't know if I spelled it right),neck pain, dislocated patellas in both knees with some arthritis,fibromyalgia,tendonitis,torn rotater cuff(surgery)bursitis,asthma,chronic bronchitis(lung bleeds too),chronic chest pain,repeated ovarian cysts,endometriosis,(appendix and uterus removed)anemia,chronic breast pain,severe irritable bowel syndrome,possible chronic pancreatitis,SVT(heart-cath ablation),Pulmonary embolism,gerd/acid reflux,childhood trauma(abused)many surgeries,did I forget something?just unlucky I guess but there's a reason for everything.I feel your pain.lets talk.


livng@thedrsoffice
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   Posted 4/2/2008 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the advice gramps
Chronic pain,buldging disc in spine and little scoliosis(don't know if I spelled it right),neck pain, dislocated patellas in both knees with some arthritis,fibromyalgia,tendonitis,torn rotater cuff(surgery)bursitis,asthma,chronic bronchitis(lung bleeds too),chronic chest pain,repeated ovarian cysts,endometriosis,(appendix and uterus removed)anemia,chronic breast pain,severe irritable bowel syndrome,possible chronic pancreatitis,SVT(heart-cath ablation),Pulmonary embolism,gerd/acid reflux,childhood trauma(abused)many surgeries,did I forget something?just unlucky I guess but there's a reason for everything.I feel your pain.lets talk.

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