First visit to a chiropractor... kinda nervous.

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03Mach
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   Posted 2/6/2008 10:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Well I seen one once before, but he was one of those fruity type.. Who knows the secret technique that no others in the area knows. All he did was pat my ass and tickle my feet.

The one I’m going to tomorrow morning (well this morning I guess) was setup by one of the neurologists I’ve seen (the duh who convinced me to go off the oxy cold turkey). Anyways, I’m a bit nervous… Not sure what to expect, hope he doesn’t break my neck! So anyway… I know he will harass me about the pain meds! Every doctor other than my PCP does. I hate it when they do that, they make me so embarrassed! Well, wish me luck… Maybe I can get some relief!

Mochiah
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   Posted 2/6/2008 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I have no response, you left me speechless because I was laughing so hard!
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shortcake_727
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   Posted 2/7/2008 5:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi 03Mach!

Ditto, in response! I can't stop laughing, "pat your bum and tickle your feet"!! That cracks me up, thank you for the giggles, I needed that!!

Shortcake

03Mach
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   Posted 2/7/2008 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad I could offer you guys/gals some comic relief! Seriously though, the dude was just a wacko! I picked him because he was in network.... lesson learned!! Never pick a chiropractor at random!!!!! Like I said, he was in network so I was like good, I'll just go here.. I thought I'd just pay my $20 copay and be good. Nope turns out he did some hooky thermal and voodoo scan ( I can't remember the 2nd one) and it cost me $90 plus my copay. The insurance company said it was an experimental procedure so it wasn't covered. I was oh so happy about paying extra for something that I got NO relief or information from! He told me he wanted to see me 5 times a week, when I left the lady asked if I wanted to make my next appointment.. I couldn't get out of there fast enough, she made me make and appointment. Right when I got home I called and canceled it.

The new guy is actually pretty cool. He took the time to explain what was going on with my back/neck. He didn't give me any flack about the pain meds, which was SOOO nice!! He thinks he can help. I'm going to get some spinal decompression and adjustments 3x a week for a month, so 12 appointments in all. The really cruddy thing about it is I have to pay my copay each time. It really sucks, but if he can offer help maybe I can actually get out and get a job.

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   Posted 2/7/2008 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Mach,

I saw a chiro for six weeks, 3 times a week. The chiro took the time to show me on my xrays and ct what he was hoping to correct.

I'll admit that it sucked, a lot, I also had to pay the copay up front each time. HE did help with a headache I'd had for awhile, but other than that, that was it.
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03Mach
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   Posted 2/7/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
He thinks he will be able to help "stretch" my disks back out so my joints aren't rubbing together. I'm not supper confident it will work, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

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   Posted 2/7/2008 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like he knows some traction techniques...hopefully that are longer lasting than actual traction. My neuro had me buy this traction device that you hang over the door...basically a huge bag that you fill with water and a face/head strap that is hooked up to the other side, you hang it over the door, sit in a chair and the contraption pulls your head and neck up. Have to admit, it felt great while I was in it, trouble was ya can't live in it, you have to get out some time! Towards the end before I went for surgery I was sitting in it for 1/2 hour and would have 1/2 hour relief, just a huge cycle.
Mochiah/a.k.a. Sue
cervical fusion 2006
L4-5 surgery with cages, plates, and screws in 2005
MEDS:  Fentanyl patch, Norco, Celexa, trazodone, and baclofen
 
To handle yourself, use your head...to handle others, use your heart
 
I'm going to smile like nothing is wrong, act like everything is perfect, and pretend its not hurting me.


Mochiah
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   Posted 2/7/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
When I had to go back to the neuro after using the traction for a few months he said something like "yeah, didn't think it would work but we had to try." The reasoning he gave for it not working for me was because besides my disks bulging I had huge osteophytes (big bone spurs or growths) and they were pinching the spinal cord badly. I would have to agree with gagabonnie, it made mine worse and moved me towards surgery faster. Of course, he didn't tell me up front that he didn't think it would work...I swear sometimes I think they play a psychological game with us to see if we are really in pain.

You take care, and become very well educated about what is going to be done, it is your body so don't do anything that you aren't comfortable with.

Edited to add:  Of course, I do know where you are coming from in wanting to try it....we all get to a point where we have had enough and will do just about anything for some form of relief.  Just make sure you have him go over all of the pros and cons involved and tell him you want it straight from the hip, nothing worse than feeling like you were lied to afterwards.


Mochiah/a.k.a. Sue
cervical fusion 2006
L4-5 surgery with cages, plates, and screws in 2005
MEDS:  Fentanyl patch, Norco, Celexa, trazodone, and baclofen
 
To handle yourself, use your head...to handle others, use your heart
 
I'm going to smile like nothing is wrong, act like everything is perfect, and pretend its not hurting me.


razzle51
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   Posted 2/8/2008 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   

well to me something throws up a red flag . A medical Dr. referring you to a Chiropractor ??????

He should have referred you to PT .


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03Mach
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   Posted 2/9/2008 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
The doctor uses DTS Decompression therapy. It's some type of table the gently decompresses by light stretching and releases it back down slowly. I guess how this works is different because it doesn't just pull and let the disks "snap" back into place like a rubberband. I am reluctant, but somewhat desperate. He seems to know what he's talking about, but I guess thats how they all are. He does have concern for the nerve running up the spine. I guess the tube that it's in is shrinking and starting to pinch or constrict around it. This is the doctor's website: http://www.chiropracticassociates.info/ if anyone want to look around and give some input I'd be thrilled to hear it!!! The neurologist did give me a script for a personal traction unit, but I'm not getting it. My insurance will cover it but only after I meet my deductible... So I just don't think it's worth paying my $150 deductible for something that's not going to work anywho.

I did do PT for a few months, but it wasn't really helping. It didn't hurt, but it didn't help either, I really like the ultrasound massage.... It felt so darn good!!! I want to tank everyone for their thoughts and concerns, I really appreciate it and feel like people here understand my feelings!!

I'm doing as much research about chiropractors in general, I'm not sure what to think about them still. Anyone here been to one and felt better or worse after seeing them? I've read that a lot of people get results EXTREMELY fast but they just don't last.

Well if anyone wants to chime in about Dr. Taber, feel free!

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   Posted 2/11/2008 3:33 AM (GMT -7)   

label this posting "in defence of chiropracters"

i liven in davenport, iowa for a while, which is the home of the oldest school of chiropractic in the world.  several of my friends were chiropractic students, so i guess that i just became less sceptical than most of you seem to be. 

afteer i hurt my back when i fell down a flight of stairs.  i immediatly thought of my friends who were chiropractic students and sought out a chiropracter rather than go to the er. (stupid mistake re:  insurance companies!).  the chiropracter helped a LOT with the immediate pain and referred me to several neurologists for evaluation.  the neurologists were a mixed bag.  they were all ofer the range.  one said that i was faking the pain to get narcotics (i wasn't taking any at the time) and another wanted to do a laminectomy on me immediately.  money motivated as gramps has said?  i don't really know.  i DO know, however, that this chiropracter did me a lot of good and kept me mobile.  i have seen several chiropracters after we moved from that area, with varriying degrees of success.  could it be the individual rather than the dicipline?  makes one think. . . .

best of luck.

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03Mach
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   Posted 2/19/2008 6:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Well I'm off to the chiro in about 45 minutes. This time he is actually going to do something, I'm a little nervous to get the manipulation! I'm a little excited to go though... I really hope he can offer me some relief so I can get off my narcotic pain meds. I'm pretty sure the traction will feel good as it's being done, but I'm skeptical that it will have any long term help. who knows... I just really want this to work. Just wanted to post... I'm feeling a little jittery/talkative/nervous!

03Mach
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   Posted 2/19/2008 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I just got back.. All we did today was use the traction table for about 20 min. It gave me a little help, but it didn't last long at all. I can't wait for the manipulation to start.

03Mach
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   Posted 2/19/2008 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Like I said it didn't last long, but it was only the first time. He told me that it will get better with each treatment. Have you even been manipulated by a chiropractor Gramps (or anyone else)? I'm wondering what to expect... I go back tomorrow, and he might do some popin and crackin depending on how I feel.

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   Posted 2/19/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I've had a few chiropractors in my life. None have resulted in lasting relief, and one actually made things much worse. I read an overview of chiropractic care from Harvard, and the research seems to indicate chiropractic manipulation and treatments may help more with lower back problems, but can actually be dangerous for the neck (cervical spine). The chiropractor I went to many years ago for my neck made it worse (ended up with numb hands!), so when I tried it again for my lower back I refused to let them touch my neck. I'm in the middle re: chiropractic care. Like Gramps says, it's certainly better than surgery, if it helps. I think you have a good point about the individual versus the profession as a whole. I went to one guy who spent two hours telling me all the schooling he'd been to, and hardly ever focused on me; needless to say I never went back. And the ones who try to get you to take tons of supplements (they make money there) be wary of. Granted some supplements are excellent, but you need to do your research and find out if it's something that will help YOU and your condition, and whether it truly has any evidence to back it up. Same with devices. Yet there are some good things if one sorts through. My bedroom is now starting to look like a PT's office - I have a stimulator, SI joint belt, back brace, home ultrasound unit and blood pressure monitor! Yet these only help with management. I suspect whether you get relief will on what's causing your problem, and how serious it is. I think the best PT's and chiropractors are the ones with training that overlaps; a friend of mine had a great experience with a chiro, but he also did ultrasound and massage. My PT has had 30 years of experience, and know how to gently put my SI joint back into place, but then ALSO gives me the exercises to help strengthen the ligaments. If PT and/or chiro. did the trick for me, I'd certainly have preferred it to surgery - which to date hasn't helped anyway. So I along with everyone wish you good luck. Don't expect an immediate cure, but just like you did with the first chiro, if something doesn't seem quite right (like come back 5 days a week! most day 3 and for a limited amount of time), then do research and/or head for the hills!

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   Posted 2/19/2008 2:27 PM (GMT -7)   

I will say this for chiropractic care. I live in a large town and chiropractor offices are popping up on every corner just like donut shops & nail shops and I am not exaggerating either. Parker College is one of the big chiropractor schools and they are turning these guys out left & right. After graduating from Parker College they are left with huge school loans, while in school they are told to buy all of the high tech equipment that is expensive and does crap for you and me. When they bill our insurance companies for it, they won't pay for it either. Then, they have to lease a spot and set up shop. The school fills their heads with so much crap on how they are going to make all this money and they believe it. Alot of them find out the hard way its not that easy out there in the dog eat dog world and its so competitive since there are so many chiros out there.

The best chiropractors are what I call the old school guys. The ones that don't have all the fancy useless machines that get billed to you the consumer. They actually only do massage , light traction, e-stim, cold/hot packs, and some ultrasound. They will also show you exercises to do at home. They don't try to sell you a bunch of supplements either. I told my sister what to look for in one, she found this guy and he has really helped her a great deal with her low back problems.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade because we all have our own thoughts in what we look for. Susie

 
 


Mochiah
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   Posted 2/19/2008 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Mach, if you are interested, I can send you the home traction thing I got from my doctor/PT office. I don't use it any more and it just sits in my office closet. I didn't pay much for it and it is useless to me since I have had the operation. You can email me through the little envelope icon at the side.
Mochiah/a.k.a. Sue
cervical fusion 2006
L4-5 surgery with cages, plates, and screws in 2005
MEDS:  Fentanyl patch, Norco, Celexa, trazodone, and baclofen
 
To handle yourself, use your head...to handle others, use your heart
 
I'm going to smile like nothing is wrong, act like everything is perfect, and pretend its not hurting me.


kateekate
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   Posted 2/23/2008 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
straydog,
you are so right! my sister found a chiropractor that is actually young and she doesn't have all the fancy equipment. she does the manipulations. massage , hot and cold packs and ultrasound. she has me come once a week. says it took a long time for me to get this way and will take some time to get and keep things in place . her husband tells her she's never gonna be rich. that's because she truly cares about her patients. i have had very good results with her.
For years none of the doctors could get rid of the pain in my hip aand back. it took her a few minutes to put my hip back in place. sooooooo amazing. also have had noticable improvement with migraines.

it's worth finding a good one

take care
kateekate

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   Posted 2/24/2008 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I've had many trips to the chiropractor and while I would usually feel good after heat packs, es, and manipulation, it would rarely last very long and I would be right back as I was in no time.

I've recently discovered accupressure (followed by accupuncture), which I have found to be dramatically more productive and long-lasting, but also much more painful during the process. Every muscle in the area, and in my case also my top rib, were manipulated...the result was the complete loosening of the muscular area and relief that lasted for weeks. He explained each muscle, associated nerves, etc. while he worked. He physically pushed my top rib down to relieve pressure on several nerves and arteries to improve blood flow to my arm, which I felt immediately in the form of a "whoosh" down my arm. When he first started and said, "OK, ready?, don't hit me," I was instantly worried and found out why, but he held the pressure in each area until the pain subsided and then it was just gone. It really was amazing. I don't think I've ever been more relaxed. The accupressure worked so well that I'm really not sure what the accupuncture that followed accomplished, but it didn't do any harm. I don't know if this type of work is prevalent in the rest of the country, but it really works for me and I'm going back on Tuesday to see if he can do anything for the mess that is resulting from my recent auto accident that I started another thread about.

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   Posted 2/26/2008 1:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a healthy fear of Chiropractors. When I first injured myself I did the usual PT, and the pain continued, and my neck cracked, and got stuck at times.

Well, my sister had me see this Chiropractor who was the Chiro to the NBA Team in my State. I thought "Great". I mean he has to be good right? Uh, NO! The first time was O.K. , but the second time he pushed between my Scapula, on my lower Thoracic Spine and "PAIN" like you wouldn't believe. I left in pain and believe the pain lasted a couple of days. It was a long time ago.

Now I'm petrified to see on, even though I believe they may be able to help my lower back, since another injury caused Sciatica and my right hip to be slightly higher than my left. I guess from what I was told was the ligaments are pulling the muscles up and that is why it is higher. Am I just a big baby? Or do I have a legitimate reason to fear them?

Besides I don't want my bum touched and feet tickled!

glynn

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   Posted 2/26/2008 2:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I have several ruptlured, which cause a pain similar to a pinched nerve. I've been to Dr.s and they do see the problem but no solution except surgery. (50-50) chance I may never walk. Also have lower back pain because of my degenerative and ostoperosis. Well a while back I decided to see a Chir. and he was realy good No gadgets in his office just large heating pad . Well I would feel pretty good for a few hours then it would come back. I continued to go to him every week for a year. Things did'nt change dramatically. Now I wish I had spent all that money on a massage. Good Luck to you, maybe you will get luckey and your pain will improve. june

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   Posted 2/26/2008 2:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I have several ruptlured, which cause a pain similar to a pinched nerve. I've been to Dr.s and they do see the problem but no solution except surgery. (50-50) chance I may never walk. Also have lower back pain because of my degenerative and ostoperosis. Well a while back I decided to see a Chir. and he was realy good No gadgets in his office just large heating pad . Well I would feel pretty good for a few hours then it would come back. I continued to go to him every week for a year. Things did'nt change dramatically. Now I wish I had spent all that money on a massage. Good Luck to you, maybe you will get luckey and your pain will improve. june

03Mach
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   Posted 2/27/2008 8:20 AM (GMT -7)   
The doctor keeps canceling my appointments due to the dts table being down. Today I had to cancel because of snow!! I really dislike snow sometimes!!! I'm excited about getting more treatments, but things just keep preventing it.

This doc isn't a creepy lunatic who tickles feet and touches peoples bum!

Thanks for all the input! I'm still going to hold out hope and stay positive about it working.

Mochiah
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   Posted 2/27/2008 2:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Good for you Mach! Part of success of treatments is not going in with a preconceived notion that it won't work and to try to be objective about it.

As a side note, I will be going into that closet this weekend to move things around so should have that off in the mail or DHL by the end of next week.
Mochiah/a.k.a. Sue
cervical fusion 2006
L4-5 surgery with cages, plates, and screws in 2005
MEDS:  Fentanyl patch, Norco, Celexa, trazodone, and baclofen
 
To handle yourself, use your head...to handle others, use your heart
 
I'm going to smile like nothing is wrong, act like everything is perfect, and pretend its not hurting me.


03Mach
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   Posted 2/27/2008 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Lol.... I forgot about it Mochiah. Cool, just let me know what I need to do.
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