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jayson ac
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   Posted 4/13/2008 6:03 AM (GMT -7)   
i am on day 4 of going cold turkey off of percocets. i was taking 2-4 a day for a couple months. i havent puked or anything but i do feel nausea from time to time and restless body a little shaky at times but not to bad. can i expect things to get worse or better from here on? and how long do you think the withdrawals will last?

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/13/2008 6:05 AM (GMT -7)   
also my pupils are dilated most of the time.

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   Posted 4/13/2008 7:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Since you only took the percocet for a couple of months, your symptoms should last only a few more days. There are some things you can do to combat the symptoms, but it's mostly a waiting game. The worst part of withdrawal is the high blood pressure that comes with it. People who are in extreme withdrawal (non-stop vomiting, diarrhea, etc.) are given a blood pressure medication that helps a great deal. Your symptoms are mild enough that this wouldn't be necessary in your case.

When you get the restless symptoms, get into a hot shower or bath. It really does help with the shakes and muscle cramps that are so much like RLS. If you can take quinine, Hylands pharmaceuticals makes an over the counter RLS med that helps too. It's called Hylands Leg Cramps, but make sure you get the one with quinine.

Sublingual B-complex liquid helps with general symptoms, and it works quickly.

If you are discontinuing your pain meds under the care of a doctor, you can ask for something for nausea like phenergan or compazine. Diarrhea can be dealt with by taking Immodium, which also seems to help a bit with the RLS symptoms of withdrawal.

If you're having problems sleeping, over the counter Melatonin is a very effective sleep aid.

All these things will take the edge off your symptoms, but again, it's just going to take time. You should start seeing noticeable improvement any day now. So why did you decide to stop taking your meds?
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jayson ac
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   Posted 4/13/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
i stopped taking them because at first i would just take them everyonce like once every few days but over the past month i started taking them almost everyday and even twice a day and alot of people in my family are drug addicts or alcoholics and it was scary realizing i was heading right down that path so i have to stop now because im only a teenager and i dont want to end up like them.

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   Posted 4/13/2008 8:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Please make sure you weigh out this situation. I would hate to see you experience more pain. Just because you need pain meds doesn't necessarily make you a drug addict. But I can see what you mean.

Just remember we are always here for you.

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PAlady
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   Posted 4/13/2008 12:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Jayson,
I hope you're doing this under the guidance of your doctor. If not, you should be. That way you can correctly assess addiction issues and the need for pain meds. I commend you for proactively looking at the genetics in your family and realizing that you could go down the road to addiction very quickly because of genetic predispositions. But if you have pain, you may need to work with your doctor to find other ways to help you manage it. Or maybe cure the problem, especially since you're so young. What is the cause of your pain?

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/13/2008 6:06 PM (GMT -7)   
well i dont have any physical pain but yea i just took them because of all the pressures of being a teenager basicly and all that stuff but i dont want to take them anymore and no im not doing the withdrawals under the supervision of a doctor but so far today i am feeling alot better and i hope it stays that way. do you think the worst is over because at 11 tonight it will be the end of day 4 and the start of day 5 since i started feeling the withdrawal symptoms.

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   Posted 4/13/2008 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Congratulations for stopping now, while you still can. Since you weren't getting these drugs from a doctor, simply stopping putting them in your mouth is only the beginning. You're going to have to get away, and STAY away from the people in your life who gave them to you, and are still active users.

As for how long the withdrawal will last, there is no way of telling. Everyone metabolizes opiates a bit differently, but you should be over the worst now. Don't be surprised if you still have cravings for a while - even weeks to months - and be prepared to mentally stamp that down and walk away. Good for you!
Living in the Republic of Texas minus a gallbladder, a couple of cervical discs, appendix, uterus, and 18" of colon; but still alive and living with my husband, 2 dogs, 1 cockatiel, 1 quaker parrot and 2 gold fish. 


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   Posted 4/13/2008 7:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I would concider talking to your school counselor or finding mental health counseling somewhere else. Though I don't think I would tell a school counselor about illegal drug use I would talk to them about feelings of depression, stress and anxiety and have them help you develop some coping skills and other appropriate help and support.
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jayson ac
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   Posted 4/13/2008 7:54 PM (GMT -7)   
yea i have been having alot of cravings for them but im going to fight that i just want the nausea and the restless body and legs and dilated pupils and insomnia and all the other symtoms to stop. it seems like they come on in a cycle and then stop for a little while and then come back but it does seem like its kind of worse at night time then during the day. it does seem like its kind of getting better and hopefully tomorrow will be a better day. but nobody has been giving them to me my dad has a bad back so he gets perscriptions for them and i found where he keeps them in his room and i started i guess you can say stealing them from him but he is not a drug addict neither is my mother. its some of my uncles and other family members who are or where at one time the abusers.

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   Posted 4/13/2008 9:49 PM (GMT -7)   
jayson,
if you continue having problems I think you need to see your doctor to find out what's going on. I very much agree with sjkly above, that you should talk to a counselor about the problems that have driven you to using drugs. And I think you need to be honest with at least your doctor about what you were doing. Some 12 step meetings for teenagers could be helpful. One thing that's very important to learn is that different drugs can keep an addiction active; for example, alcohol can keep cravings for the narcotics active. They use the same physiological pathways. Often people end up substituting drugs (legal or illegal, it doesn't matter as far as the body is concerned) one for another, thinking that they're unrelated. Your body is already telling you that you do have a genetic predisposition. And that you tend to use drugs to help you deal with life problems, and that when you do use them, your tolerance develops very quickly so that you''ll continue to crave more and more of the drug (or a drug that does the same thing to your body) to get the same "high".

So if you're wise you'll learn a lot from this experience. That you need some more appropriate (non-drug) help for life issues right now, and that's ok, and that you will get addicted if you start drinking, using other drugs, etc. rather quickly. Good time to start and stay on a sober lifestyle, and that's a healthy one, anyway. Maybe getting involved in a sport or a hobby you feel successful at can be one outlet. But talk to your school or some other counselor, ok?

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/14/2008 6:15 AM (GMT -7)   
i have learned alot from this experience but i dont really want to see a doctor or anything unless i absolutly have to. i learned my lesson not to use them anymore but i just want the withdrawal symptoms to stop because they suck really bad more so at night then during the day. and yes i do play sports i run track for my high school and i play basketball and baseball in recreational leagues for my town or state and i also do pretty good in high school get mostly B's for grades so its not like the drugs took over my life i was just stupid for taking them and im realizing to stop before they do take over my life.

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   Posted 4/14/2008 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jayson,

You're a smart guy! And you have done the right thing by stopping. I agree that you should have done it under a doctor's supervision but in the situation you're in I think just stopping was more important. Might have helped to taper off but if you were taking them from dad's stash then that's not possible.

Your symptoms should be just about over. No one needs to chew you out or punish you for what you did. You've punished yourself enough and have learned a very valuable lesson. I admire you for not wanting to take the same path as your relatives. You're worth more than that.

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jayson ac
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   Posted 4/14/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
yea i dont think i need a doctor really because my mom is a nurse and i did tell her about it and that i was only taking 2-4 a day if that and only for a little while and she said i shouldnt really need the doctor or anything because i wasnt taking that much.

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   Posted 4/14/2008 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I had some difficulty reading your post (a computer thing) but I think it says you told your Mom, who's a nurse. That's great, because the honesty will help her help you. And your Dad should know he may have to lock up his meds so there's no temptation for you. But I still encourage you to talk to a school counselor or someone. There's lots of pressure on someone your age these days - maybe even all the pressure to keep up the grades, sports, etc., and you don't need to go it alone. School (or other) counselors are very used to helping with these things. You probably don't even need to tell him/her about the pills, but talk about what was troubling you in the first place.

You're on the right path!!

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   Posted 4/14/2008 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Jayson:

I am so proud of you. I am sure it was difficult to admit to something like this and especially to tell your mom. I see so many kids like you in my line of work who start just like you did and end up in such terrible situations. It is a brave thing to stop and confront this issue. I know it feels really crummy right now, but I hope you feel some pride in yourself for toughing the withdrawal out and not giving in to the temptation to take the drugs again. I wonder if part of the reason you feel better during the day is because of how active you are. At night, when you slow down, your body and mind have fewer distractions from the symptoms of the withdrawal. When you are feeling crummy, try going for a run or doing some sort of physical activity with your family. Maybe that will help.

Stay with it and keep your mom and other positive influences close to you! :-)

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/14/2008 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
yea i think thats why the symptoms arent so bad during the day. i still go to track practice during the day and go out with my family or friends and try to still live alittle and just take my mind off of it and stay active. but at night the symptoms can get alittle bad and im hoping they soon stop because it will be going on day 6 tonight.

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   Posted 4/14/2008 7:24 PM (GMT -7)   

Jayson,

KEEP THE FAITH IN THAT YOU ARE HEALING YOURSELF! I know exactly where you are , I was there myself. I have had over 20+ years of pain and pain med management. TEX JEN , and CHUTZ have  hit the nail on the head... just work to get yourself better!!!!!!! You seem extremely in tune with the world and we can't have you checking out on us!!! You are  an important member HERE!! VENT!!! VENT!!! VENT!!!!!!!  let it out, there is so much care and knowledge here! We are all here for you!!

PEACE to you today and everyday!

Colerg


jayson ac
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   Posted 4/17/2008 7:46 PM (GMT -7)   
i apreciate all the support from you guys thank you.

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   Posted 4/17/2008 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
You're welcome. How are you doing?

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/19/2008 7:52 PM (GMT -7)   
im doing pretty good when should the symptoms completely stop i mean they are alot better now but when should i not feel them at all ever.

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   Posted 4/19/2008 9:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know, Jayson, I'm not a doctor. You said your Mom was a nurse, so I'd ask her. It does seem to have been long enough. To my knowledge, none of us here are doctors, so I'd take your Mom's advice as to whether something else might be going on.

jayson ac
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   Posted 4/20/2008 5:34 PM (GMT -7)   
yea im wondering if something else is going on too.

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   Posted 4/20/2008 7:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Talk to your Mom, ok? Maybe you need to be checked by a doc. I wonder if you might have had some sports injury - even a minor one. Your Mom certainly sounds like a good place to start.

Good luck!
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