Pain Meds that do NOT damage kidney or liver.

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cocopuffed
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   Posted 6/27/2008 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
i'm looking for a otc or prescription pain med for my hip that is NOT injurious to the liver or kidney.

i am a diabetic with hbp and semi-poor blood suger control, my lab values for kidney and liver function are borderline.

i lost my left leg bka 6 yrs ago due to peripheral vascular duisease.

I had a CABG and EAC last year.

i think i need a new opposite leg hip, but my VA MD sez grin and bear it.

i was happy with aleve, but vascular nurse read me the riot act about renal damage.

help!

thanks.

PAlady
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   Posted 6/27/2008 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, cocopuffed,
Welcome to HW. I had to smile at your name!

With all you've got going on I don't think I would recommend anything even OTC. I think you need to talk with your doc/vascular nurse for recommendations. Unfortunately, there's very little (actually nothing I know of) that doesn't affect the liver or kidneys, or both. These are the organs that help provider our body's "filtration" system, so to speak.

I do think that some prescription pain meds. like opiods are actually easier on the liver and kidneys, but again your doc needs to determine what's in your best interest overall.

Maybe someone else has info. they can add that's more helpful. You've certainly been through a lot in your life, and I hope you can find some relief.

Again, welcome.

PaLady

Post Edited (PAlady) : 6/27/2008 4:09:44 PM (GMT-6)


Lindaloo
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   Posted 6/27/2008 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Coco,

I agree with PaLady. There is precious little that you can take OTC. Ask your doctor what is best for you, I'm sure he will prescribe something for your pain.

Welcome to Healing Well. I am glad that you signed up to be a part of our forum and chat rooms. Don't forget to try the chat rooms. There are great people there as well. And this forum, well, it is just wonderful. People sharing and people caring. It's what it is all about.

Sorry I couldn't help you more with this problem, but I did want to come on and welcome you.

Hugs,

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cocopuffed
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   Posted 6/27/2008 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
hi ladies...

thanks for the good words. I actually do take an opiods, tramadol, but not ebough to be effective. i really don't want to get into the oxycontin-like meds... i'm scared of addiction. i was lucky when i was on it. i just have to get my doc to get on the ball... but the VA has its' rules, so he's probably just following protocal. meanwhile, i just started using canadian crutches.

funny when you're on the other side of the provider/patient interface. thirty years in hospitals as a respiratory therapist, and never a sick day. retire, and whammo.

thanks again... i'll hang in there and keep you updated.

p.s. cocopuff is my dog, but the username was taken. the -puffed is from my homegrown habits.

rich

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 6/29/2008 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I am not sure, but I think that Methadone goes easy on the Liver and Kidney. Of course, it's not OTC!
Pamela Neckpain

lavendar
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   Posted 6/30/2008 5:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Coco: I have osteoarthritis osteoperosos degenerative arthritis nerve damage and now have found out I have liver and kidney problems as well. Parts of my liver kidney problem came from the oTC I took over the years for my arthritis pain . Now I am only allowed to take one half of a tylenol occasionally (why bother) So I am learning to deal with constant pain. Your right it seems that after retirement my life (health wise) went down the drain.
It seems that the only med they have offered me is the oxycontin . I tried it once, I really don't care about addiction. I'm in pain. Unfortunately I was unable to take it because of an allergic reaction. I may try a half dose one day if I'm really bad off. I recently had my bunions hammer toes and a bone spur worked on. Was only allowed to take meds for two days. And believe me I was in pain. They could only give me minimal anestisia so as not
do do any more damage. Some days I wonder why we have to suffer so much . Being in constant pain as you know is not the way my retirement was supposed to be. Take care
and keep posting. If you do find something for pain , let me know . june

PAlady
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   Posted 6/30/2008 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, coco,
I was just wondering - are you concerned about addiction because of some addiction tendencies/history or genetic predisposition? Because sometimes we're concerned about those things because of antiquated views of addiction. I posted a thread recently with a link to an article which clarifies dependence, tolerance and addiction especially relevant to chronic pain patients. Even with an addiction history, some people can be on opiods but stay closely monitored by their docs, and the opiods are easier on the liver. Don't know if any of this is relevant, but thought I'd add another 2 cents!

PaLady

cocopuffed
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   Posted 6/30/2008 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
hi all...

thanks for your advice. i was on heavy oxycontin for several months following my amputation (four revisions due to MRSA, full thickness graft before that with abdominal muscle -- looong recovery -- now i have four butt cheeks -- 8>), but when i was transferreed to a long term facility, i got off it within two weeks. Maybe I'll try it again.

i don't think i have addiction tendencies (definitely tobacco, an off and on vice, and cannabis, a rare treat), but when i was on the oxycontin (and another, related med for 'breakthrough' pain) oxycontin abuse was all the rage in the press. i was very surprised to taper off it so quickly and easily. no genetic problems -- i can take any- and everything -- no allergies 'cept cats.

i'll update y'all if anything happens, good or bad, and continue to monitor this thread.

thanks again.

rich in maine

razzle51
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   Posted 6/30/2008 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
all meds go thru your kidneys anyway , so it will be hard to tell . you just need to get a 3 month blood drawn. To see how it is functioning

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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 7/1/2008 3:38 AM (GMT -6)   
If my pain meds were taken away, I'd go right along with them.
Pamela Neckpain

PS ... I have a friend who calls Tramadol, TRAUMA DOLL. : - )

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 7/1/2008 3:39 AM (GMT -6)   
If my pain meds were taken away, I'd go right along with them.
Pamela Neckpain

PS ... I have a friend who calls Tramadol, TRAUMA DOLL. : - )
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