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Skeeter_Bug
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   Posted 7/22/2008 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Last month I accidently overdosed on my morphine. i had taken a dose and forgotten and took another. I was life flighed to a major hospital. I was told that when I arrived that I had no vital signs. I was on life support for over two daya and in ICU for over a week. I spent a month in the hospital. I suffered brain damage because I inhaled vomit into my luings ad now I am suffereing from kidney failure. I have a doctors appointment in a week and the hospital faxed my doctor my med records. I was told no doctor will prescribe opites asfter this happened. What are pain killler that isn't an opiate that the doctor will most likely prescribe me. because  I cannot stand the thought of being in pain
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Hound-Dog
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   Posted 7/22/2008 10:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Skeeter-Bug......First let me say thank God that you made it through your O.D.....What happened to you is one of my greatest medical fears.My morphine capsules are 100mgs. X four and my breakthrough meds are 20mg morphine IR and 20mg oxycodone IR.If I accidently took five 100's,I'd be toast.Thankfully my IR's can be safely halved so it gives me some pain control options to separate my good days from bad.I use a couple of those pill organizers that keep my morning meds separate from my evening ones so that I can't (I hope) make a mistake.If for some reason I can't remember I check my pill organizer and go with what it says.Maybe if you explain to your Dr. that you will take serious precautions again'st making a mistake like before and truly need an opiate to control your pain he may cut you some slack.Here's hoping.....Take care and God Bless......Rod

Lucia_Delacroix
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   Posted 7/23/2008 12:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a Sidekick cell phone and it has a program where I can type in notes, and in that program I write down all the meds I have taken and at what time, and how much, so that when I am trying to remember if I have taken a medication or not, I look at my Sidekick and I know if I did or not. It helps a lot.
Born with hip dysplasia in left hip, 2 surgeries to fix it when I was a very small toddler.

Also, 2 injured discs in lower back at L3-L4 and at L4-L5.

I also have Fibromyaglia as well.

Meds:
Zyprexa 7.5 mg
Wellbutrin XL 150 mg
Klonopin .50 to 1 mg as needed throughout the day for panic attacks
Actiq 200 mcg 3x a day
Skelaxin 800 mg 3x a day
Ibuprofen 800 mg as needed
Kadian 60 mg
Halcion .25 mg for sleep


Skeeter_Bug
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I could have my husband hide them and only give me one at my prescribed time. I had a few left and last night I was really hurting and I took one and I was awfully nervous. the doctor has me on neuronton and it was doing nothing for my pain. let what happened to me be a lesson to everyone.
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Pray for the peace of Y'rushalayim
 
 
 
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PAlady
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   Posted 7/23/2008 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Skeeter,
I, too, am glad you survived your ordeal. And you're right, it should be a lesson to others just how much harm even one extra pill might do - especially if it's a longer acting med.

If it was a one time accident, perhaps - perhaps - over time you may be able to rebuild trust with a doctor enough that they'll prescribe some opiates, but I suspect some shorter-acting ones, and in small doses to start. But if you take those extra pills, as you're doing now, and something should happen - even if for some reason a urine screen was done - and that was found in your system you'd likely never get a doc to prescribe opiates again.

I don't know if the doc would be willing to risk your husband keeping charge of your meds. I kind of doubt it. You already know firsthand what the risks are of an accidental overdose, and no doctor is going to want to risk being the one who prescribed when you end up in the E.R. the next time. I think you need to have a talk with your doc about what meds are even possible for you without doing harm, especially in light of the kidney failure. If this one a one-time accidnt, I'd try to talk with the doctor(s) I had the best relationship with, and ask about my options, and go from there. Is a patch a possibility?

PaLady

~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/23/2008 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Skeeter Bug,
I am glad you made it through. When I first stopped taking narcs, I researched non-Narc meds. There I found out that Ultram and Tramadol are opids but they are still considered a narc.
As for Non Nar, can I post a link, if this is OK I will, anyone?
Cloe

~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/23/2008 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Respectfully snipped for space........
I don't know if the doc would be willing to risk your husband keeping
charge of your meds. I kind of doubt it. You already know firsthand what the risks are of an accidental overdose, and no doctor is going to want to risk being the one who prescribed when you end up in the E.R. the next time. I think you need to have a talk with your doc about what meds are even possible for you without doing harm, especially in light of the kidney failure. If this one a one-time accident, I'd try to talk with the doctor(s) I had the best relationship with, and ask about my options, and go from there. Is a patch a possibility?

PaLady
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PaLady,
I totally agree with you post. I would check into a pain clinic, try the patch. Now I have been told that if you suggest a med to your doctor that their BACKS GO UP! I am not savvy enough to skirt around this issue. I am making a list for my Doctors appt tomorrow and each time I a new entry I cry, I am only on #8. LOL How pathetic I am these days.
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I take it Skeeter Bug that you are not in the acute stages but in the chronic? So I was told that epidural shots. If you go to a pain clinic ask them what is available non-narc /non opiate, in my opinion of guess they will work with you. As for giving your husband your meds, just another option, keep your pills in a med minder. As for taking Advil I would be VERY carefully, as PaLady mentions above. As soon as I went off Narcs I started taking anvil and this is when I became incontinent and now I ware a pad 24/7. It is always redish brown stained when I change it, but I have to keep taking it. Tylenol arthritis works good to, but that goes through your liver, if I recall correctly. These are only suggestions for you to research.
Bless you and best of luck,
Cloe

Skeeter_Bug
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   Posted 7/23/2008 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I have inoperable nerve damage in legs, (plus nerves are being pinched) I have a blown disk in lower back. degenerative disk disease in neck and back so will the shot work on me and plus I am terrified of the shots
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Pray for the peace of Y'rushalayim
 
 
 
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~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Skeeter if you are in the chronic stages I was told no for the shot.
I used the patch with great success for 3.5 years, I slept a lot and the last 6 months approx I had weekly migraines. I would mark my calendar with detailed changes. Like... patch 1 right shoulder then 3 days later patch 2 left shoulder...... I see your DX above and you are diabetic, I would not take any Advil for a chronic condition, Just my opinion. My brother has juvenile diabetes and went into renal failure, a family member donated their kidney so he lucked out with a live family member donor. I if recall correctly he has been advised not to take any by his specialists. I have been taking Advil for awhile and my condition has worsened. FYI
Good luck!
Cloe

FitzyK23
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Is it possible that your doc is refusing to prescribe narcotics not because he does not trust you but because after your accidental OD your body can not handle it? I have a cousin who has tried to commit suicide w/ pills and now his liver and pancreas are so damaged that he can not handle many prescription medicines because his body can not break it down properly. Maybe you should speak with your doctor about his or her reasons.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


mrsm123
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:53 PM (GMT -7)   

Skeeter,

There may be another reason, aside from the overdose that your doctors won't want to prescribe any more narcotics. With the brain damage, the damage to your lungs, and the kidney failure, your body may not be able to tolerate the side effects from the narcotics any more.

As far as you taking any morphine that you have at home, after a month in the hospital, I'm pretty sure that your body has gone through withdrawal of the narcotics while you were there, and by taking it now, you are going to throw yourself back into withdrawal if you continue to take it.

I would strongly suggest that you don't take any more and get rid of what you do have at home instead of taking it. Contact your doctors and ask them what you can take for pain aside from the morphine. With all of your medical problems now, you don't want to make any more medical crisises for yourself.

Sandi


PLIF/TLIF Fusion w/Instrumentation L4-5 Spondololysthesis L4-5.Laminectomies L4-5, foraminal stenosis L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, herniations L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, central canal stenosis L3-4, L4-5 and L5-S1
POST OP CES 3/30-06
Neurogenic Bladder and Bowel, bilateral numbness legs and feet
Revision for failed Back surgery, pseudoarthrosis L4-5, hemilaminectomies L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, bmp added to revision fusion, replaced two bent screws that were reversing out of vertebrae - August 2, 2007
On going back pain and neuropathic pain, failed back surgery, consult for scs, decided not to do that at this point.
Adhesive Arachnoiditis also......just what I didn't need..


Skeeter_Bug
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   Posted 7/24/2008 1:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I also have bolar and fibromyyalga. I thought of an idea if I can get something prescribed have the pharmacy put it in these packages and the pills are listed by date and you can see if you have taken a pill or not
Baruch atah Aadonai
 
Hashem loves you whether you like it or not
 
 
Pray for the peace of Y'rushalayim
 
 
 
Fibromyalgia, Diabetes, Asthma, degenerative disc disease, facet disease, osteoarthritis, hypertension
BIPOLAR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/24/2008 4:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Skeeter, You can use a med minder as well, if you want to. I just got back from a doctors appoinment. I was there for two hours! UA done and blood in my urine, do to Advil use(which I knew). I got a real long explanation as to just how many drug seekers that are out there. My doctor said you would not believe the excuses he hears. My dog ate them, my purse got stolen, I went to my brothers and forgot to bring them home. Blah blah blah.......... I have on my medical records that I got fired from a pain clinic(Who have zero tolerance) This is in my records and they request all your medical records before they choose to treat you or not. I have this in my records for life.
My doctor is referring me to another pain clinic and he did give me Hydrocodone and flexeral. I go back in 3 weeks to see him. I might hear from them before then if my blood culture shows signs of poor kidney function. Doctor told me no more Advil.
Just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
Take care!
Cloe

Morgoth
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   Posted 7/25/2008 7:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank the Lord and of course the medics.

If you are no longer on any opium derivatives now, I concur that you should stop using them at all, it'll be healthier anyway. For opium medication, as well as for other medication that messes up the brain chemistry, the golden rule is: "If you can't remember whether or not you have taken your meds, you probably have, that's why you can't remember."

Epidurals make be a solution, for some they work, for some they don't. At least it's worth a "shot".
To stand and be still at the Birkenhead Drill is a mighty bullet to shew.


PAlady
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   Posted 7/25/2008 7:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Morgoth,
Loved the rule! Now to remember it...

PaLady
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