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CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/29/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello , I have been in pain for about 6 months everyday and just got the fun diagnosis of chronic back pain and the "lets try to manage your pain" speech.  I am in PT and have been on vicodine but today got Tramadol ??? Anyway I take Lunesta as well and am not sure if anyone can tell me about the interaction? I am so glad I found this forum and look forward to talking to people who know what I am feeling.  Love my man to death but he just doesn't get it and I hate to bore my friends with it because they don't know what to say ! CPnewbie

PAlady
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   Posted 7/29/2008 8:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, CPnewbie,
Welcome to the HW forum. Always sad someone has to be here, but it is a great place with lots of warm people. You definitely won't bore us, and we "get it".

Do you know what's causing the chronic back pain? That's a pretty general diagnosis. Have you had an MRI? Since it's "only" six months, and if you've never tried PT in the past, there's always hope. Try to do everything the physical therapist suggests; I think I have learned and gained more from physical therapists in my life than any other heatlh prof. when it comes to my pain. But it takes a lot of time and effort on your part to truy help.

As far as the interaction between these meds, I'd suggest asking your pharmacist and/or your doc. Pharmacists are also great sources of info, especially about drugs. Did the tramadol replace the vicodin? The lunesta I'm assuming is for sleep. Tramadol isn't as strong as vicodin, but it's less addictive. Not sure about taking the two together, but I'm not a doc.

I think I asked as many questions as I answered! Look forward to learning more about you. And feel free to search older threads for topics you're interested in.

Again, welcome.

PaLady

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 7/29/2008 8:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to the HW forum CP. I am on Lunesta for sleeping and it actually works very well. I am also on Percocet for the pain and Kadian as well which is a morphine based pain drug. You should be fine on the lunesta as long as your only taking it at night to help you sleep. You should be able to take your pain pill and your sleeping pill at night before you go to bed and be fine.

Again welcome to the forum and I do hope you will find many new friends here as well as answers to your questions.
HEALTH ISSUES: Herniated discs at S-1-L5, L5-L4, L4-L3. Two level fusion (2000); one level fusion (2002); Revision at L4-L3 (2003). Diagnosed with Failed Back Syndrome, Permanent Nerve damage and Chronic Pain

Medications:

Kadian, Lexipro, Percocet, Temazapim, Lunista, and Robaxin.


CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/29/2008 9:33 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you both soooo much ~ in response to your questions I have had the MRI and yes there are MANY issues ! Degenerative disc disease, L3,4 and 5 fused T11 and 12 bulging, spondylosis,osteoarthritis, etc......(I don't want to bore you haha)

I am a true type A and have been working through the pain and blaming/trying many things , I am too heavy, I don't have the right shoes, I need to excercise, I need a new bed, I sit too much etc......I finally had to give in and start seeing docs because 6 months ago it became unbearable, no sleeping , couldn't walk or sit without pain , couldn't lift, bend etc. even something as simple as getting out of the car of shaving my legs was too much so here I am , today they said try yoga , then the PT guys says no yoga , then I cry because I am trying to carry my purse and get the mail and carry a grocery bag and nope, can't do it !

The Tramadol seemed to get rid of the pain for about an hour and half, seemed to make me sad though ? or maybe it was just the day, won't know until I take it again , but now I am getting sore and plan to go to sleep ( and yes I only take the lunesta for sleeping) but I want to take the Tramadol because it is hard to sleep with this pain. 

To top this all off I almost died last year of a bleeding ulcer and I may not , ever, take another anti  inflamatory so I have no choice but the pain meds and I am a bit afraid....TMI right ?? Oh well glad that there are people out there to talk to , this is a bit overwhelming, I'm still young and this is not cool !


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 7/30/2008 2:44 AM (GMT -7)   
CP;

I know this is hard at such a young age. I'm only 44 and have been living with this for the last 8 years. You will alike to other folk with this problem and DDD get through this. I can tell from reading your posts that you are a strong woman and your life as you once knew it has been snatched away. I too have fusions at S1-L3 and have CBP, FBS, CP and DDD and it sucks. How much of your Tramadol do you take? Maybe taking it with your sleep medicine would help you to get some sleep at night. I don't know what your doc has told you, so really can't tell you if this is something that he has told you that you can take at night with your sleeping pill.

I know how overwhelming this can but, believe me I wish I didn't, but I do and living with a back that is in pain is not cool or fun. But I think that with the aide of all of us and learning what you can and cannot do with your back is the most powerful weapon in your arsenal. Please feel free to gram me or email me if you are needing any info as I too am dealing with this as well and know what it is like.

Hubby will understand in time, mine did. At first he thought all I needed was excersize but when he realized that this problem was not going away he began to ask doc questions about what we could do to make me more comfortable and things like that. This not only helped him understand what this was that was taking over my body but it also made me feel better knowing that hubby was going to stick this out to the end and help me as much as he possibly could. Don't give up hun.
HEALTH ISSUES: Herniated discs at S-1-L5, L5-L4, L4-L3. Two level fusion (2000); one level fusion (2002); Revision at L4-L3 (2003). Diagnosed with Failed Back Syndrome, Permanent Nerve damage and Chronic Pain

Medications:

Kadian, Lexipro, Percocet, Temazapim, Lunista, and Robaxin.


~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/30/2008 6:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome Cpnewbie! I am a newbie to this form as well. Lots of fun, interesting and encouraging posters. I agree with the above posts to check with your pharmacists. I get on line and research stuff as well, medical journals. Medication definitions. I was laid up at a young age as well. For me finding out just how many people suffer from chronic pain has been shocking! I have learned so much from the posts.
Cloe

CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/30/2008 7:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Morning all ! Took the lunesta and the tramadol and slept like a baby. Woke up a bit hazy but the fog is lifting. I am so grateful to everyone for all the conversation and support! I am so glad to find a place to discuss all this , it was hurting my brain yesterday to think about it all but I am a positive person and will get through it , with the help of others for sure ! I only took two tramadol yesterday , maybe I will be able to get by with one today ?? Anyway I have to get ready for work so everyone have a good day and I will write later to keep you posted and see how everyone else's Monday went !

Chutz
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   Posted 7/30/2008 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi CP...and Welcome!! Glad you had a good rest. Looks like your meds did fine together. Sometimes the timing of them might need to be adjusted but you'll learn what's best for you over time. You may need to put some time between the two medications in order to be more alert in the AM, or take it earlier at night. You might consider keeping a pain journal so doc can see if and how your medications are working. I keep one and I've been on my pain meds for years. Here's a link to the free journal I use.

Keep in touch,
Chutz

http://www.painfoundation.org/Publications/TargetDailyLog.pdf
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CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/30/2008 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chutz ~ thanks for the link, will start using it now , best to be on the safe side if I get an side effects knowing what I was taking and when ! I haven't taken a pill today , limping through it to see if I can ! Going to do some of my PT exercises and see if that helps the pain today. The tramadol helps alot and since I am home might just take one soon so I can chill ~ Pain is tricky, I got mad today at someone and was extremely short tempered and that was not like me at all , blew up but good , still saying "OMG" did I did that !!! Oh well will be more careful tomorrow !!
Cloe and Scarred , thanks for the age info , I am 46 and was just amazed because I feel 21 in my head !!
PAlady , thanks for the idea to search older threads I am going to do that now ! Hope everyone had as painlessa Monday as possible.
Hubby is cooking and doing the laundry so I had better go at least fold some thing !! :-)

d_davis777
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   Posted 7/30/2008 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to the formula CP nice to have ya sorry to hear of your pain. Im sure you will remain happy here! There is always someone here thats dealing with, gone through it, or has delt with it here! So welcome to our little family here! I wish you the best and you can never tell us to much dont worry about boring us, we read all the time! God bless you and your suffering!
Asthma,Chiari Malformation,Arachnoid cyst on temporal lobe,Hypertension
Gerd, Severe nerve pain, Severe DDD, Osteoartheritis, Herniated disks,bilateral papiledema
Constent sinus infection, Bladder/Bowel problems, Depression,allergies and cervical cancer surviver,had a av shunt placed in my head,hyatel hernia,a.v. shunt placed,bilateral papiledema and scoliosis
 
 
God Bless You All!!
Donna


CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/30/2008 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Donna, thanks for the note ! I can't beleive how kind everyone has been ! This is my first (okay many first this week!) time in a place like this and it's been great! I love writing as it is so distracting and helps the pain get out of my head (not my back but at least my head gets a little break !) :-)
Thanks again !
There's a young guy named Lonelyhearts25 that needs some inspiration , have you read his thread ?
Here's to being part of your little family !! I am truly blessed to have you all out there ! :-)

~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/30/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   
OK I am trying to get the pdf file updated. I saved it and I still can't type on it. So I tried saving it to a word document and that is not pretty. Very frustrated, This is what I hate about pain meds, I cant think!. So I have two choices, either a brian or a body. Gosh darnit!!!!
Help with pdf file someone please?
Cloe

CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/30/2008 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
a brain or a body ! good one Cloe ! What are you trying to do with the pdf?

tom inpain
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   Posted 7/30/2008 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Newbie: I just wanted to welcome you ! Nothin to add in terms of advice other than " Do Your homework with all medications and "never" let the medical profession probe or cut into Your spinal cord without investigating every other option. Again welcome.
Tom Lasko


~Cloe~
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   Posted 7/30/2008 7:27 PM (GMT -7)   
CPnewbie said...
a brain or a body ! good one Cloe ! What are you trying to do with the pdf?
I was trying to use it as my journal.  One my computer.
I saved it to my documents, but I can not update it.  So I saved it to word.doc and it is all messy.  I will continue to use my paper journal for now. 
I have never liked pdf.files, I do not mind reading them but to use as a form to full out of a journal, I don't get it.
Cloe
 

CPnewbie
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   Posted 7/30/2008 7:37 PM (GMT -7)   

Cloe ~ Yeah pdf is not the best format for a journal , I use word , it spell checks and I can edit and it's just more user friendly. (you dont' need a brain for word :-) !LOL)

Thanks Tom for the welcome !

Going to go rest the back now ! Maybe watch a movie or something !

Take care all.  Wishing you all a painfree night and some sleep if possible !

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