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kara487
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   Posted 9/8/2008 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
cry    had another sleepless night last night . I was wondering if elavil is good for sleep and at what doseage, I have tried trazodone for 1.5 hours of sleep and ambien only works off and on Saturday night I got 7 hours of sleep on it and last night I got 0 sleep at all. I dont know what to do anymore I cant function anymore my brain is mush. I was a successful college student and now I feel total disabled along with the disbaility from my back pain. I cant go on for much longer . This has been going on and off for the past 10 days and mostlly on only got two days of sleep within the last 10. I feel my emotional health is in danger and today is my one year wedding anniversary I hate to put my husband through this yet again.

ladyred
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   Posted 9/9/2008 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Kara,
 
I so know how you feel love havent slept in 3 + months and I feel like its catching up with me and really starting to take control of me.  Just was wondering how much of the trazodone  you have beed taking.  I Know you can take upto 300 mg of it.  If you not you might ask you doc to up you dose.
 
I was taking it as well and when I upped my dose it worked the problem being I have to get up at 5 with my kids for school and even though it made me sleep at 200 mg i wasnt able to get up and felt like I had a hang over in the morn.  So I stopped taking it.  I will ask my doc for something else when I go back on the 15th. 
 
Not sleeping is not healthy as I am coming to find out in so many ways.  I really hope you get it sorted out soon. 
 
Happy belated annversity Kara and I hope you had a good say in spite of not sleeping.
Lara

ryand
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   Posted 9/9/2008 9:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Kara:

I am so sorry to hear you are not sleeping. Like Lara, I can totally relate. I am not familiar with the meds you have mentioned, but I wanted to suggest a few questions to think about before you chat with your doctor...

1) Are you having trouble FALLING to sleep, or just STAYING asleep, or both?
2) Is the problem general sleeplessness, or is pain causing you to wake up or keeping you from finding a position you can sleep in?
3) Have you tried keeping a diary of your meals/beverages/activities in the late evenings to see if there are things you are doing that might be interfering with your sleep?

You may have already considered these things, so forgive me if they are not helpful. I am just suggesting them because they are the questions my doctors have asked me when I've asked for help with the sleeping issue. In my case, my back pain makes it very difficult to stay in one position very long, so I have a hard time falling asleep, and then if I move wrong the pain wakes me up in the night suddenly as well. So for me, the best way to get more sleep would be to improve pain control over night. This is still a problem b/c I don't really have adequate pain control ever, but knowing this has helped me know that I need to make sure I take one dose of my PRN pain meds about 30 minutes before I go to bed. On most nights, that lets me get to sleep pretty well and gets me through at least 3-4 hours before the pain wakes me up again.

I did have a doc prescribe a sleeping med once, but it didn't do anything at all for me b/c sleepiness was not really the issue. If you can nail down what the issue is, that may help your doctors find a med combo (or a behavioral change - like taking caffeine out of your diet) that would help better than what you have now.

I hope you can get in to see your doctor soon. Congratulations on a year of marriage, Kara. I hope you and your husband were able to take some time to celebrate.

Ry

straydog
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   Posted 9/9/2008 9:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Kara, Elavil has been used as a sleep aid in the past. Susie


ladyred
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   Posted 9/9/2008 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Very good points Ry,  Prob why the sleeping pills didnt help me much as the reason I cant sleep is because I am in pain not because I cant sleep.  I to have trouble finding a poistion that works for me... I toss and turn consitianly moving as the pain is so bad that I cant stay in one postion for very long. 
 
Good thought though and I wil adress them with my doc when I go back as well...I love this forum as  it really brings to light so much that you dont always think about and there is so much helpful infor from everyone here..
 
Thanks Ry
 
Lara
 
 

kara487
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   Posted 9/10/2008 5:06 AM (GMT -7)   
 
Ry, thanks for your advice I have trouble falling asleep. My problem is sleeplessness. I have tried everything to get some sleep some nights are better than others I managed to get 4 hours of sleep last night. With the help of ambien and elavil but sometimes that dont work. I cut out all caffeine,exercise and hot baths nothing seems to help. I hope you have a lpd.
 
ryand said...
Kara:

I am so sorry to hear you are not sleeping. Like Lara, I can totally relate. I am not familiar with the meds you have mentioned, but I wanted to suggest a few questions to think about before you chat with your doctor...

1) Are you having trouble FALLING to sleep, or just STAYING asleep, or both?
2) Is the problem general sleeplessness, or is pain causing you to wake up or keeping you from finding a position you can sleep in?
3) Have you tried keeping a diary of your meals/beverages/activities in the late evenings to see if there are things you are doing that might be interfering with your sleep?

You may have already considered these things, so forgive me if they are not helpful. I am just suggesting them because they are the questions my doctors have asked me when I've asked for help with the sleeping issue. In my case, my back pain makes it very difficult to stay in one position very long, so I have a hard time falling asleep, and then if I move wrong the pain wakes me up in the night suddenly as well. So for me, the best way to get more sleep would be to improve pain control over night. This is still a problem b/c I don't really have adequate pain control ever, but knowing this has helped me know that I need to make sure I take one dose of my PRN pain meds about 30 minutes before I go to bed. On most nights, that lets me get to sleep pretty well and gets me through at least 3-4 hours before the pain wakes me up again.

I did have a doc prescribe a sleeping med once, but it didn't do anything at all for me b/c sleepiness was not really the issue. If you can nail down what the issue is, that may help your doctors find a med combo (or a behavioral change - like taking caffeine out of your diet) that would help better than what you have now.

I hope you can get in to see your doctor soon. Congratulations on a year of marriage, Kara. I hope you and your husband were able to take some time to celebrate.

Ry

kara487
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   Posted 9/10/2008 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
My Doctor wont prescribe me any more meds except for ambien and elavil for sleep.Im so depressed.I can't take much anymore.

Lindaloo
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   Posted 9/10/2008 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Elavil is an excellent medication for depression, sleep and pain as well. It is one of the older antidepressants and has its side effects such as dry mouth, weight gain, excessive perspiration and tendency to be tired--which is why it is so good for falling asleep!

Elavil can be taken at small doses like 25 mgs. or the doseage can go up to a hundred mgs. depending on your condition, your need and your doctor.

I took elevil for depression for years and it worked great but had to stop it eventually for rapid heart rate, but I was taking 125 mg/day.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

God Bless and gentle hugs,

Lindaloo
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Believe in yourself.  Be kind to fellow humans and animals.  Take time to smell the flowers and the coffee.
And by all means, when you are down, ask me for help.  I will be there.
 
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straydog
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   Posted 9/10/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
My son was put on a low dose of Elavil for one month for migraines. He was ten at the time and it helped pull him out of a round of migraines he had going on at the time. He took it at bedtime and did great. So many drugs being used for other problems. This was a little over 20 yrs ago. Susie


Toritoo
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   Posted 9/11/2008 1:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Kara,
Well I just posted on your other thread but it seems we have a lot in common. I take 100mgs of Elavil at night and it definitely helps. Did you know it takes 2 hours to start working? So depending on what time you take it that could make a difference. I also wanted to mention that I was prescribed Elavil for prevention of Migraines in the first place years and years ago and it works for that too. But I do get at least 4+ hours of sleep after taking them and I figure that's better than nothing. Good luck with that and your pain pump on your other thread as well. Good luck.
 
toritoo

kara487
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   Posted 9/14/2008 7:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Tori, I took ambien and elavil last night and it was the best sleep I ever had in a long time . I slept for 9 hours and did not wake up once  during the night .I hope everyone has a lpd.

Toritoo
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   Posted 9/14/2008 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so glad to hear some good news, wow nine hours sleep! I can't even remember the last time I slept that long. Do comas count?lol Sleep is so important when your dealing with pain and it really cuts down on your meds use too if you sleep for nine hours. I am so jealous but good for you!
Hope it lasts a long time.

toritoo

ladyred
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   Posted 9/14/2008 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   

Congrats Kara,

You must feel like a new person! I hope you continue to have many more good nights sleep.  I bet as well it helps with being depressed and feeling blue. 

Take care

Lara


kara487
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   Posted 9/18/2008 3:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Lara it does .I hope I dont jinx myself but I have been getting great sleep with my medcine cocktail. I hope you have a lpd.

JDTRIP
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   Posted 9/18/2008 7:35 AM (GMT -7)   
  Kara   Have you heard of Meltonin for sleep.    My wife and I take 3mg just befor bedtime and for us it works great.      Comes in tablets 3mg and also I have seen 5mg  over the counter any pharmacy should have it as well as health stores.    Just my experience   Take Care   Jim

kara487
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   Posted 9/19/2008 7:26 AM (GMT -7)   
JD I tried melatonin and it didnt work on me. But thank you for the advice . I hope you have a low pain day and weekend.
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