CAN A KNOTTED BACK PAIN CAUSE ALL THESE SYMPTOMS....

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Chedda
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   Posted 10/28/2008 6:17 AM (GMT -6)   
HI I am an 18 year old male, I recently went to see my GP as I have been having terrible pains in my chest and back. My left side of my chest, just under and around the heart has a constant pain, with my lower back hurting very regulary.
 
The pain in my left side of my chest seems to mover around and never appers to be the same pain, sometimes it feels like my heart, other times lower down under the heart into the adbomin. Im also getting random pains on the right side of my chest, around the lungs and what seems to be lower down near my liver. Any type of exercies seems to make all of these much worse.
 
Other symptoms appear to be numbness in left arm and leg with any type of exercise. I often get very light headed and dizzy, even when walking around.
 
Also at night I often get woken by a very strong sharp stabbing back in the left side of my chest under the heart.
 
Now I have had numerous X-rays, blood tests, and heart traces but the doctors insit there is nothing wrong there. My 2nd to last visit to a GP I was told I have GERD, and was given Ozermarople, but these just seem to make me feel worse physically.
 
The last time I vistsited the GP, I saw a different practrioner and was told I have knotted muscle in my back, after being poked and proded around and given more medication for that.
 
He also told me he doesn't know why I was diagnosed with GERD.
 
However I seem to burp too much for my own liking, fatty or junk foods seem to hurt my chest more.
 
Does anyone have the slightest clue what this could be please???

ryand
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   Posted 10/28/2008 8:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Chedda:

Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear you are having this pain, but it sounds as though it hasn't been going on for very long, so hopefully that is a good sign! Perhaps this will resolve for you very soon.

You need to know first and foremost that we are not doctors here and cannot offer you a diagnosis or treatment plans. You need to continue seeing a physician - maybe more than one until you have found someone who can help. That said, there is one sure fire way to find out if a knotted muscle is your problem... Have you ever been to see a massage therapist? I am not talking about the spa type massages that you can get for relaxation, but a massage for treatment. Look for a neuromuscular massage therapist - one who is licensed and nationally certified. Have them work on un-knotting that muscle. If that relieves the pain, then you have your answer! :-)

Now, like I said, we are not doctors, so I would be sure to check with your doctor before doing anything.

Ry

Post Edited (ryand) : 10/28/2008 7:20:49 AM (GMT-6)


Chedda
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   Posted 10/28/2008 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, thanks for the reply, I have had a pain in the left side of my chest and back for around 9 months now, nothing seems to work. Every time I have seen a proffessional about it, I get a differemt answer. I don't really have the cash for a neuromuscular massage therapist being a student and all, I have to rely on the NHS.

I have just started taking Dicoflex tablets yesterday, my GP said to take these for around a month and the problem should slowly be eased.

How does a knotted back put pressure on the chest exactly? Does it tighten the rib cage?

~Cloe~
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   Posted 10/28/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   

Welcome Chedda :-)

I have the same kind of pain but on the right side.  This keeps me awake at night.  The pain is so bad that it overrides my lower back pain.  It is in the lower rib cage and radiate from back to front.  I have my ribs exrayed and my gallbladder checked out. There appears to be nothing wrong with me!  This has been going on for maybe two months now.  I am at a loss ?  I just wanted to welcome you and let you know that there is someone else out here with the same issue.  Feels like broken ribs to me with a knife going into my back and coming out the front.  I don't get it.

Cloe


QTKaren
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   Posted 10/28/2008 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Chedda,

Is it possible that you might have fibromyalgia? There is an offshoot condition that many of us with fibro get called COSTOCHONDRITIS. It causes a constriction of the connective tissues in the chest and also cause muscles to spasm there. The pain can be centered on the chest or move to any location near it including the sides and back. I found out I had it after having a stroke and not long after that I started to have chest pain and saw a cardiologist. I had just about every test known to man checking my heart out. The good news was that all my arteries were totally clear with no abnomalities,so healthy heart but the only thing left that could cause this pain is Costa short for Costochondritis. So if you google either of those you will get tons of info plus if you vist the fibromyalgia site here you can get alot of info. Just because your male dont rule out fibro. Women mostly get it but so do some men. And as said before please keep going to your doctor as I like others here are not doctors just giving you possibilities to bring up to your doctor and have them checked out. I wish you luck in finding a diagnosis for you pain.

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~Cloe~
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   Posted 10/28/2008 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   

TY QTKaren,

I am taken this google search to my doctor, guess I need will need to make another appointment.

shocked

Cloe

ps .. this is killing me!  brings me to tears just talking bout it!


ekkorose
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   Posted 10/28/2008 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Chedda.

I am not a doc and this is just my personal experience but I have found that if a certain place in my back hurts it will shoot from my back into my chest. This has sent me into a panic many of times until I was able to think it through. I would then go to my chiro and he would do some funny little adjustment and it would go away.

Take care and I hope you feel better soon. Rest and relax!

Sarrah

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kttn251977
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   Posted 10/28/2008 10:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I have these knots too. I have multiple injuries in my back. I have been checked for cancer several times. Don't worry- you will know those knots, though I pray you never do. Mine have spread around my ribcage and lower abdomen, so yes- they can spread. I also have fibromyalgia, its quite painful. I take lyrica & cymbalta for it & they have helped leaps & bounds! Feel free to ask me questions if you have them. I was a little scared too when I first felt them. Regular masseges help, but my pain specialists have told me they may never go away.

Ginny
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   Posted 10/31/2008 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I have an idea that might be worth looking into.  Have you heard of Myofascial Pain Syndrome?  Fascia is a translucent covering over every single tissue, organ, ligament, tendon in the body.  If you have an injury to the fascia, it will knot up and cause pain.  The knot can be worked out with special "body work" by a trained physical therapist.
 
Pretty much every single person on earth has at least one myofascial pain knot in their body.  When it becomes chronic is when you feel the pain.  One of the more common places for these knots to appear is in the rib cage in the breast tissue.  Try Googling that too and see what you think!
 
Ginny
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kttn251977
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   Posted 10/31/2008 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info. My drs have looked & checked. I am ok. It only hurts when they are touched without a warm up session (like from the massage therapist) There is also another condition called back mice. Thanks though!
RX's: Oxycontin 60 MG 2x's daily; Oxycodone 30 MG 4x's daily; Soma 3x's daily; Lyrica 100 MG 3x's daily (all for pain & fibro.); Phenergan 25 MG (as needed); Amitriptyline 25 MG 1x at bedtime; Cymbalta 60mg 2x's daily (for pain & fibro); Restoril 15mg at bedtime; Zanaflex 4mg 3x's daily; Metoclopram (as needed) & Senokot (as needed).
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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/1/2008 3:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Chedda,

I have fat lumps that appear on my back and under my chin. They don't look
bad. I'm not fat. They just come and go and hurt a lot. Right now I've got
one on my left & right upper back. They used to be under my chin. I'll check
back if I can think what mine are called. It doesn't sound like what yours are.

kttn: What are Backmice? smhair

Tirzah
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   Posted 11/1/2008 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Chedda,

I'm not sure where you live, but maybe you could check to see if there is a massage therapy school nearby (sometimes they're also called Manual Therapy schools). There is one in the city where I live & they do free massages for those willing to be their guinea pigs. :)
It doesn't always feel great at first, but once the students get a few weeks with you under their belts, they can be pretty good. Ry is right that a certified one would be best, but I know that finances are not always so easy to come by. Maybe you can go once or twice to a regular, licensed person (sometimes you can get the first session free if you ask) and see if it helps; then, you can switch to the massage students & just know that they will get a lot better as the weeks go on. At the school by me you can even keep the same student from week to week.

Another option that I benefited from back when I was in school was that my university had a physical therapy department. They did ultrasound treatments on me (which were free of charge) and those made a huge difference. Maybe your school has something similar?

Just a thought. :)

frances

kttn251977
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   Posted 11/3/2008 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
pamela, i was googling one day to see what i could find out about those knots all over me. google back mice & it comes up almost directly. i am going to ask my drs about it the next time i have a trigger injection done, see if i can't get some of these knots to let up the pain.
as far as massueses go, i am not willing to let someone guinea pig on me. i have one who is a good person, she actually read up on my issues & went back to where she was trained just so she can treat my condition carefully. plus, i tip fat. :) amazing what being a good tipper will get you in life! there is a national chain (the one i use) is massage envy. they are very fairly priced, $35 an hour/per month. they auto charge that amount & you can redeem it anytime. so say i get charged in nov & don't use it. i get charged in dec & decide to get a 2 hour massage. or if you want to use your nov plus an extra hr its halfprice. i go every 2 weeks for 2 hours. she has even shown my fiance how to rub my back to help my meds kick in faster & not wait 1-1/2 hrs for them to relieve some of the pain. she is fantastic! hope this helps you some....... ((hugs))
RX's: Oxycontin 60 MG 2x's daily; Oxycodone 30 MG 4x's daily; Soma 3x's daily; Lyrica 100 MG 3x's daily (all for pain & fibro.); Phenergan 25 MG (as needed); Amitriptyline 25 MG 1x at bedtime; Cymbalta 60mg 2x's daily (for pain & fibro); Restoril 15mg at bedtime; Zanaflex 4mg 3x's daily; Metoclopram (as needed) & Senokot (as needed).
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sunflower7
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   Posted 11/11/2008 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   

I agree with ginny you should look into MFP syndrome.

I have it along with my cervical ddd.

An Osteopath is the one to look for or a massage therapist

trained in MFP release.

In the USA it is a DR of Osteopathy

In Canada and Osteopath.

Well worth looking into, if you see my other post today

I give my details. (can't remember the name of the thread)

Bonnie


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   Posted 11/15/2009 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
has anyone with the chronic knots gotten relief from a tempurpedic bed? My back is aggravated by lying down (to sleep).
my wife says I should say that I'm new here....
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   Posted 11/15/2009 11:08 PM (GMT -6)   
For now try a heating pad curled up to your chest to see if that might help your current discomfort...
Hope your feeling better soon and lots of soft hugz...
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PAlady
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   Posted 11/15/2009 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Steve,
I have a tempurpedic which I love, however it's not going to be the magic cure the commercials make it out to be. I spent a lot of time lying on them in the store before I got one, and they also give you about a 3 month trial period. But the bed alone probably isn't going to fix everything unless your current mattress is causing all your problems.

I do love mine, though!

PaLady

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   Posted 11/16/2009 6:53 AM (GMT -6)   
First let me say welcome to the forum Chedda. When I first started having back problems I also started having problems with my chest area tightening with pain from it. I did go to the emergency room for fear of a heart attack. After getting an EKG and x-ray the doctor noticed the way I was moving around. He asked me if I was having back pain and I told him yes. It turned out that my back was causing muscle spasms which were moving my ribs which in turn caused my chest area to be compressed. Visits to the chiropractor helped.

I'd have to agree with Chart and try some heat on your chest & back. You can make a nice big rice bag by sewing a dish towel up both sides, filling it with cheap rice then sewing shut. Place this in the microwave and this will give you nice moist heat. Just be careful not to get it too hot!! These can also be put into the freezer to be used as a cold pack.
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