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shaw31
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   Posted 11/7/2008 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I started pain management 3 yrs ago and had a great doctor.  I moved with my job and found another doc.  This new doc makes me feel bad everytime I am about to go in.  His office staff is nice.  He makes me feel uncomfortable.  I am almost scared of him.  Anytime I talk about my meds he always makes me feel like I am a drugy.  I have always followed everthing he says.  Never asked for refills.  I always take my meds for pain.  When i go in I have to fill out a bubble sheet that asks .....have you ever gone to the ER to get meds, have you ever gone to another doc to get meds,  have you ever taken your meds for anything but pain... etc.  These sheets make me feel like I am being watched over like a hawk and that he does not trust me.  He has no bed side manner.  I need to find another doctor but I almost feel trapped.  I know that finding another PM doc requires gettting records transferred and stopping seeing the present PM doc.  What if I cannot find another doc and my meds run out?  What if he puts something bad in my records?  What if no other doc will take me?  I have a real good primary care doc and have told him about it and he gave me a note to see another PM doc.  I know to do this I have to first tell my current PM doc.  I am almost scarred to tell him for fear of what he might do.  I know this sounds very wierd and paranoid but this guy has made me feel this way.  My first PM doc in my previous town was amazing and I fealt very comfortable seeing him.  My present PM guy is not near this way.  I have also noticed that every time I go in his office there seems to be no one there (patients waiting to be seen) where as my previous PM doc always had a full waiting room.  I need some advice on what to do.  Please someone help me.  Like I said I have always been a good patient so I should not have anything to worry about but this PM doc makes me feel almost bad and sorry for myself that I have Chronic Pain.  Can a person have a consultation with a new PM doc for a sort of meet and greet to see if there is a spark or do you have to sever all ties with your old PM doc before you even have 1 meeting with a new one?  Please I need some help and also share your stories if you have any.     Thanks!  If anyone knows of any good PM docs who maybe I could just talk to 1st please let me know.  I live in Central FL.

PAlady
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   Posted 11/7/2008 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Shaw,
I think you'll find a lot of us are or have been in a similar situation. It seems like your PCP understood what you were saying and gave you a new referral. That sounds like the path to try, even if you have to be vague with your current PM doc about why you want to switch. Your PCP will likely have some of your concerns documented. If you have enough meds to make it to an appointment with the new PM doc, you may not even need to see your old one.

I'd suggest calling the new PM doc (the one your PCP referred you to) and ask a few questions, and find out how long it would take for you to be seen. If you could get in fairly soon, you could request your records from your current doc, and hand deliver them to your new PM doc. And then you could see what was in them (you're entitled to).

Some of the things - such as the questionairre, or something along those lines - you may run into at other PM offices as a way of seeing if you're keeping your part of any pain contract. And they may not have a great bedside manner. But if you get good pain management services it may be worth putting up with a lousy bedside manner. So I'd ask you does he treat your pain effectively? If so, he MAY be worth staying with. But you probably won't be able to go back to him once you leave.

Can you have some type of "meet and greet" with a new doc? Well, you could try, but probably a lot of docs won't take the time. And sadly with pain management we begin to look like we're doctor shopping. It is lousy we are treated like criminals - or that we're right on the edge of becoming one. I'm kind of rambling because there's no clear cut answer for you. If you're not getting decent pain management from your current doc, that would mean you've nothing to lose by changing.

Good luck!

PaLady

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   Posted 11/7/2008 1:58 PM (GMT -7)   
When I was looking for a PM doctor I would call the offices and ask the staff about the doc, They were usually pretty honest with me. Maybe that is something you can do?

And I would have to say honesty is your best policy. Let your new doc know why you switched.

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Blessedx8
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   Posted 11/7/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   

Shaw31,  I'm sorry for the things you are going through and the things you are feeling.  I really hate to hear someone feeling as you do regarding your medical care.  I really think you need to learn to rethink your entire relationship between you and any doctor...  When you go to a doctor for medical care, you are hiring them for their expertise in their field (pain management, in this instance).  However, YOU are still in control of you; you are simply paying them to provide you a service.  By forming this relationship, this does not give them permission to A) treat you w/ anything less than respect; B) have a "God" complex, as if they are the all-might authority and are doing you a "favor" by giving you medical care; C) treat you as though you are dishonest, are an addict or so forth. 

I think because it is so hard to find a good pain doctor, the way our society views this whole issue w/ using narcotics, how hard it is for some to get pain medicine - we think we are "lucky" when we find a doctor to provide us w/ pain meds.  Most of us tend to not want to rock the boat; and I think many of us put up w/ things we would NEVER otherwise put up with - just because of the before-mentioned issues.

I know this because I was like this the first couple of years of my illness and pain issues.  I look back at the comments that I put up with and I would NEVER, EVER put up w/ those things now.  Did I say NEVER?   tongue   When we moved to Colorado, the first pain doctor I met with was horrible.  I can't even remember all the things she said.  I do remember that she introduced me to her assistant and told me that I would get to know her very well because she is an excellent pill counter.  Meaning I had to bring my meds in each visit and they would count what I had remaining to see if I was on target w/ my meds.  Now, I have no problem with some things because I know some things with a pain doc aren't personal; it's just them needing to protect themselves because there are people that abuse the system.  For instance, I have no problem signing a contract saying I won't go to other doctors, that I understand my meds are my responsibility and so forth.  But I still demand to be treated w/ respect by my doctors and not automatically be declared "guilty" before given a chance to show that I'm an honest patient.

You have EVERY right to go and interview 20 doctors, if that's what it takes.  In fact, I would encourage it.  Ask all the questions you want to know.  How often do you need to come in?  How do they handle refills?  What if you have extra pain after hours?  At the same time, discuss the issues you've had w/ your current doctor.  That you have jumped through every hoop asked of you, that you've never done anything to compromise trust with your doc, but that you are still made to feel uncomfortable.  That he has no bed side manner and that you would like that in a doctor.  You have every right to expect this from a member of your medical team. 

You could set up these consults while still under your current doctor's care.  That would probably be the best thing to do.  Once you find a good doctor - switch over.  Don't worry about what's in your medical records.  Actually, if you are worried, request a copy of them and read through them.  You can always address what's in them w/ your new doctor.  But a doctor can't just make things up about you in your records.  If you disagree with something your doctor has written, I'd write a letter to be included in your records, disputing whatever it is that you disagree with.

Sorry if this comes across "preachy" - I don't mean it that way at all.  I'm just extremely passionate about this subject, because of my own experiences and what I see others go through.  I think we all have every right to a good pain management doctor, and I hate to see someone settle for anything less than that.  We shouldn't leave our doctors feeling bad or mistrusted.  We have enough things to worry about than that, right?

I wish you the very best of luck and really, really encourage you to make some appts w/ some new docs.  Take care, Tina


 

 

Diagnosed with: POTS/dysautonomia; Fibromyalgia; Severe Hypertension; Hypothyroidism; Adrenal Gland Disorder; Chronic Pain - severe carpal tunnel syndrome, migraines, severe back problems, widespread muscle/joint pain....as well as depression/anxiety.

 

Current Meds: 480mg MS Contin, 90mg MSIR, Soma, Effexor and MANY other meds (heart, thyroid, etc)

Past Meds: EVERYTHING.  Fentanyl patches, Actiq (which caused $$$ in dental work), Fentora, Oxycontin, Oxycodone, Kadian, Avinza, Dilaudid and on the list goes.

 

Waiting On: Intrathecal Drug Pump Implantation (Dilaudid/Baclofen combo)

 


Blessedx8
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   Posted 11/7/2008 2:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I think there is a difference between getting good pain management services and a doc who has a so-so personality, and a doctor who makes you feel uncomfortable, that you are scared of or makes you feel like a "drugy" (all things Shaw31 said).  I wouldn't care if I was getting a script every month from this kind of doctor - it make be ok for now, but we really should expect, actually demand more from our doctors.
 
I think a lot of doctors fall into a certain way of treating us because of certain stigmas attached to pain management; like I said, I think most of us put up w/ things we'd never put up w/ in a different circumstance.  I'm not saying we all have to be crusaders on this mission, but I do think the more we stand up for ourselves and demand quality care, the better things will be in the long-run and I think the stigma re: pain management will eventually soften. 
 
--Tina
 

 

Diagnosed with: POTS/dysautonomia; Fibromyalgia; Severe Hypertension; Hypothyroidism; Adrenal Gland Disorder; Chronic Pain - severe carpal tunnel syndrome, migraines, severe back problems, widespread muscle/joint pain....as well as depression/anxiety.

 

Current Meds: 480mg MS Contin, 90mg MSIR, Soma, Effexor and MANY other meds (heart, thyroid, etc)

Past Meds: EVERYTHING.  Fentanyl patches, Actiq (which caused $$$ in dental work), Fentora, Oxycontin, Oxycodone, Kadian, Avinza, Dilaudid and on the list goes.

 

Waiting On: Intrathecal Drug Pump Implantation (Dilaudid/Baclofen combo)

 


shaw31
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   Posted 11/7/2008 11:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I thank you all for your comments.  They have all helped a great deal.  A special thanks goes to Tina because what she said really helped me and she seems very passionate about it.  As I said In the first post I had a PM doc in my previous town and he was great, awesome, amazing ....well you get it.  I loved him.  But when I moved the PM guy I got was bad.  He did continue my same treatment plan including the same meds.  Anytime I talk about my meds with him he seems to try and avoid it.  He is not compasionate!  My other doc was.  The fact that he is giving the medication that works for my pain does not mean I have to excuse his poor attitude and treatment of me.  I think alot of PM patients think once they get a PM doc that gives them the meds that help them then they better just settle with the way the doc acts because you better not make a stink or you might be cut off.  I think a doc should have all the quality of a good health care provider.  Also I have noticed that this doc always wants to do a procedure on me and does several urines, 3 this year.  I have had no problems with my meds at all.  Never a red flag.  I just dont understand him.  My previous PM doc in my old town did a urine once maybe twice a year and thought that procedures should be spaced out so as not to cause to much trama.  I dont what whats up with this guy.  I think I will look for another doc.  I just dont want to look like I am "shopping".  A good thing for me to do in a new PM docs office is tell the truth and tell them I do not need a prescription from them.  I will show them my meds and let them make a decision.  I also dont want the insurance company wondering why i have a bill from 2 PM docs.  THanks all for your help and please continue this thread as I need all the help I can get!

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/7/2008 11:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Shaw31
Our Pain Doctors must be cousins or something.
I have your issues.
Momto6boys and PaLady have given us some good information.
I don't know what I'm going to do - just keep reading this thread, I guess.
One thing I think of: When we do make a switch from a possibly crazy
or sadistic doctor, it might be a good idea when speaking to a new doctor
to say, "We just weren't a good match."
A new pain doctor might get scared if we tell our real stories.
I've been to several doctors who have been bad to the bone. : )
(I think we may have a thread on this subject.)
When I do leave,
I move on as gracefully as possibly and don't say a word. : - X
Let's see who else chimes in.
I'm always afraid to read my records from the doctor ~ afraid I'm going
to read something that makes me angry and causes more pain.
Pain patients have some very serious issues and issues that are not easy
to understand. (except our understanding in this Forum)
Pamela

straydog
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   Posted 11/8/2008 5:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Shaw I feel bad for you reading your post. But, remember, as patients we must advocate for ourselves. You are entitled to be treated as person, not a drug addict, this dr likes to intimidate his patients if you ask me, which falls under being a control freak with his patients. He may give you your meds every month, but if you don't like this dr. by all means find a new dr. Thats is not dr shopping. Be sure to ask if the new pain dr prescribes meds, some do procedures only. Whether you realize this or not, you are the one in control here not the dr. Tina gave you the best case scenario out there so I am going to repeat what she has already. Good luck, Susie


shaw31
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   Posted 11/8/2008 9:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks all for the replys.  I think many of us have this problem.  One thing I will say and I have said it before is my 1st PM doc in my previous town was an exception.  He was awesome.  He seemed a bit loony but I am sure thats because he has the most busy practice I have ever seen.  I just wish I could have taken him with me when I moved.  My new PM doc has done 4 procedures on me in 10 months.  This to me seems very odd.  I know that epiderals are done in a series but I only had one epideral and the rest were facets, RFL and another one I cannot quiet remember.  I just want to tell this guy enough already I do not need another darn procedure but I am afraid if i say that he will think I do not want any sort of pain relieve besides the meds.  The only procedure that has worked is the facet.  Even when I tell him that he persistenly tries to give me other things.  Does this seem odd to anyone?  To give all of you a bit of history, I have a bad back that has hurt me for years.  My jobs requires standing for 10 hrs at a time and lifting as well.  I have had two rounds of PT and several procedures.  I quess you could say I have had a comprehensive and multi treatment plan.  So you can see that the meds are only a part of my treatment.  I could understand if I went in to the docs office and just wanted meds and refused anything else.  That would alert me if I was a doc.  I do not do this!  This is why I cannot quiet figure this guy out.  Also,  isnt it against some sort of doctor rule to keep giving procedures?  I almost feel as if this guy wants to make money off of me because these procedures are not cheep.  I am also getting a bit worried that my insurance might start to question all the procedures.  Anyway I am rambling now.  Someone in the earlier post said my doc sounds like a control freak and that he intimidates his patients.  That describes him exactly.  Its almost like he knows you need your meds and he can do anything to you because he has you under his control.  It sounds wierd and paranoid but this how I feel.  No one has ever made me feel like this.  I am hoping to change docs but it is hard becuase my present doc knows me (at least I think he does) and going to a new doc would mean gaining his trust.  The trust issue is not a problem but I know it might take a while to find the right doc.  I feel as if I am in a corner and cant get out.  Sorry for my pity.  I will figure something out.  Please keep leaving ur thoughts.  This thread has helped me greatly.  Also if anyone reads this in the Central Florida area please let me know of a great PM doc.  Thanks!

Blessedx8
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   Posted 11/8/2008 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
A couple of quick comments - 1) You mentioned about your insurance several times thinking "something is up" kind of thing.  Have you had this issue w/ your insurance, or are you just saying you are worried about it?  An insurance is not going to consider you "doctor shopping" because you are getting a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th...or 80th) consult w/ a new doc...or had many procedures done (most of us have) or whatever.  2) Speaking of procedures and meds - you said "I could understand if I went in to the office and just wanted meds...".  I've had many, many procedures (including trigger point injections, facet nerve block, epidurals, on the list goes).  But now my needs are just getting my meds from my doc.  Asking for meds, asking for meds by name (saying "I've read about "xyz" helping a lot; I'd like to try it); whatever -does NOT make you a drug seeker, etc. 
 
I'm not judging you by any means; I always try to put myself in another's position. But I still think you need to change your way of thinking and become your own best advocate. I think my doctor respects me because I come into his office well-researched and am in control of my own care.  Again, by paying my health insurance, I'm hiring my doctor to provide a service for me.  Good luck to you, Tina

 

 

Diagnosed with: POTS/dysautonomia; Fibromyalgia; Severe Hypertension; Hypothyroidism; Adrenal Gland Disorder; Chronic Pain - severe carpal tunnel syndrome, migraines, severe back problems, widespread muscle/joint pain....as well as depression/anxiety.

 

Current Meds: 480mg MS Contin, 90mg MSIR, Soma, Effexor and MANY other meds (heart, thyroid, etc)

Past Meds: EVERYTHING.  Fentanyl patches, Actiq (which caused $$$ in dental work), Fentora, Oxycontin, Oxycodone, Kadian, Avinza, Dilaudid and on the list goes.

 

Waiting On: Intrathecal Drug Pump Implantation (Dilaudid/Baclofen combo)

 


PAlady
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   Posted 11/8/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Shaw,
I wanted to comment again because I didn't want my earlier thoughts to mislead you in any way. I've not been doing so hot myself, and don't have the energy to think and write clearly these days.

I think that what many others (Tina, etc.) are saying is right, but maybe in SOME respects - only in some - the ideal. And it sure doesn't hurt to try for the ideal, meaning to find yourself a better doc. And the more you've said about this new pm doc, the more is raises my eyebrows, not just about how he's treating you (I think you're likely right that he's trying to make money off of you - and probably others) but when you say his waiting room isn't very full it makes me wonder if this doctor has been reported or something along those lines.

Sadly, I think a lot of doctors are trying to make money from the high tech procedures, and I don't have a problem with that IF they work. You said the facet joint injections help, but others don't. Seems to me that's a no-brainer. A good doctor - even one with a lousy bedside manner - should be doing what helps, not continually a series of trial and error stuff. Especially since something HAS helped you.

I really think you ought to try this new doc your PCP referred you to. That being said my only thoughts about the doctor shopping issue is that if you do it a lot you CAN be PERCEIVED as doctor shopping, even though that shouldn't be the case. But IMHO it's a reality if you do it with a lot of pain management docs. I've personally been the victim of that and one of the local pain management docs refuses to see me again because I went to another local one (I was referred by my neurologist). Evidently his policy is you have to stay with one pm doc. And neither of these pm docs prescribe - they just do the high tech stuff. Now neither will see me, although it doesn't matter because the injections and such never helped. I don't live in a large city, which I think is another aspect to this. Fair or not, if there's only a limited amount of choices we do have to be careful of following the office procedures, even if they're too stringent, because you may not have other choices. I am still holding my breath about having to find a pm doc and keep hanging onto my neurosurgeon who I know any day now will stop prescribing, since it's been over a year since I had my back surgery. But I'm going to have to drive 2 hours to get pain management and winter is approaching.

It does sound like you have more options around you, though, so as long as your PCP is aware of what's going on, I think he/she can serve as the point person for you as you look for a doctor who's a better fit. It seems this doctor isn't even meeting your pain needs, and if you've got other choices, why stay? Get a copy of your records, make an appointment with the doc your PCP suggested, and move on.

PaLady

mrsm123
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   Posted 11/8/2008 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Shaw,
When I wanted to see a new PM, I had my meds just filled, so I had plenty of time to see a few new PM's to interview them. In fact, when I made the appointment, I told them that I wanted to interview the new PM, so they made my appointment a bit longer than the standard 15 minutes.
I went in, with my records, and my current bottles and discussed why I came to interview the new PM. In fact, I was surprised at the reaction, but everyone of them that I interviewed was very pleasant and went out of their way to take their time with me. One made a really good impression with me, more so than the others,although all were very nice.
We discussed my current problems, the meds that I was on, I voluntarily showed him the bottles with the dosages. We discussed why I wanted to change and the fact that nothing could be done other than pain meds for me, what other treatments I had tried and then , and more importantly the fact that at that point, he was very honest with me and told me that while he would love to tell me that he could cure me, or offer me some treatment that would alleviate the pain that I live with, he said, I can only continue what you are currently on and then if you need tweaks in dosages, we will take care of that right away. I didn't want to have to go through the hoops that I had already jumped through in regard to injections again or more pt, and I truly appreciated his honesty in regard to my options......so he is the one that I went with.
I haven't regretted my decision to change PM's once since then.
I hope that your experience is like mine.
Sandi :-)
PLIF/TLIF Fusion w/Instrumentation L4-5 Spondololysthesis L4-5.Laminectomies L4-5, foraminal stenosis L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, herniations L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, central canal stenosis L3-4, L4-5 and L5-S1
POST OP CES 3/30-06
Neurogenic Bladder and Bowel, bilateral numbness legs and feet
Revision for failed Back surgery, pseudoarthrosis L4-5, hemilaminectomies L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, bmp added to revision fusion, replaced two bent screws that were reversing out of vertebrae - August 2, 2007
On going back pain and neuropathic pain, failed back surgery, consult for scs, decided not to do that at this point.
Adhesive Arachnoiditis also......just what I didn't need..9/08- adding bilateral ulnar neuropathy with severe compression to the mix. They want me to see a surgeon for ulnar nerve surgery, but I'm not biting.
I've seen enough surgeons over the last few years.


straydog
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   Posted 11/8/2008 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   

Shaw again you have had more replies giving you excellent advice. I wrote a post to Pamela and ask that when you get a moment check it out. I told her about Googling chronic pain and there are many forums listed and some these forums have listings of CP drs all across the country. Thats much better than making a cold call I think. Most of these sites you have to register but its no big deal and you don't get hit with spam. I am very tired tonite and not thinking well enough to give you some names.

Since your dr wants to do lots of procedures, it sounds like you have become his cash cow so to speak, or your ins company has. As a rule most ins companies welcome 2nd & 3rd opinions especially in this area if they see someone running up excessive medical charges on a patient.

I know how well you liked your prior pain doc but when its time to look for someone else you may do well as to put him as far from your mind as possible because I think you may compare him too much to a new dr. With that scenario you will never be happy with someone else. I have been treating with a gastro for 6 yrs and I feel the very same way about him as you do your old dr. But, honey, I saw 4 gi's before finding him. You see its our right to be treated with respect as a patient. We also have the right to pick and choose our own drs. I am not real sure why you are so reluctant to get care elsewhere especially if you are that unhappy. I would also be alarmed to find a waiting area not full of patients waiting to see the dr, that would send a red flag up for me, I would be out of there fast.

I am the one that told you he sounded like a control freak. No dr will ever make me feel the way yours does because I simply will not allow it. There are too many other drs out there willing to take my money. As it is I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and I chose to see all of my specialist 30 miles from here because they are the best there is in my book.  I have had my fill of arrogant, incompetent so called drs in the big city. I was sent to a rheumy because of my PCP said I either had Lupus of Connective Tissue Disease. Well, I am on lots of meds not all related to pain at all. He said he felt like I did in deed have Lupus based on all the labs that had been done and redone on me over a 6 mo period of time. He said he thought it was in remission and he really did not want to give me more drugs to add to my mix. I very firmly advised him I was not there for medication, I was there for a consult only. I was terribly offended by this guy. I never went back and told my PCP why and she was upset too and sent me elsewhere. So, you see its up to you totally to make any changes.

Someone suggested seeking out new care right when you get your refills which is an excellent idea. And if you were running maybe close to being out perhaps your PCP could cover you long enough until you see a new dr.

I will tell you its not fun looking for a new doctor no matter what their specialty is. But, you are the one in control of that and only you can change this. Never settle for second best of anything in life. Susie



Lindaloo
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   Posted 11/8/2008 8:31 PM (GMT -7)   
OK Shaw, I live in Central Florida, in Ocala. Now I don't know where you live, but I will tell you that I drive four or five hours to see my psychiatrist in Hollywood, because he is that good. So too is my pain management doctor and she is in Ocala. Her name is Dr. Amy Clunn and I have been seeing her for nearly two years. She is thorough and prescribes my medications for me. We have gone through differerent medications and I think I have my pain finally managed. She is very nice and so is her ARNP, Jerry. As a matter of face, they could not be nicer. And they don't push procedures on me either. I have fibromyalgia and have since I was 28, but it hasn't bothered me this bad until the past eight years when I moved up here from south Florida. Please feel free to give her a try. If you want her number then let me know. They have a booming business and there are two other doctors in there as well. I hope you give her a try. Let me know what you decide.

My opinion is similar to the others who have commented Get a copy of your medical records and read through them. Interview a new doctor to see if you like him or her and don't keep accepting procedures that don't work just to keep your doctor happy. Remember he works for YOU, not the other way around.

You need to change. Your doctor intimidates you. That is not a healthy relationship and you need to get out of it. If it were me I would tell him why I was leaving, but that's just me.

I wish you well and hope to hear you have made a successful change. Keep us posted hon. God's blessings.

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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 11/9/2008 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Shaw,
We have a right to just say no to a procedure.
At least, that's my understanding.
My Pain Doctor prescribes pain meds - nothing else.
He doesn't push me into procedures too much.
Sometimes he doesn't even mention that dam pain pump.
If I want Xanax, I have to be driven two hours ~ it's very difficult for me.
Just thinking about going to "interview" new doctors is terrible.
I carry so much pain with me. Waiting to be seen is awful.
I am probably going to have to change residences because of the economy.
I don't know ...
I think I'll stay with my doctor for awhile.
It could be much better...
but from my experiences in the past 6 1/2 years, I know it could be worse.
Pamela
I've had expert forum advice but I'm in this big city. I'm new here. I'm lost.
Part of this feeling is from returning from Walmart.
All the people needed new shoes - or something.
Silent Night was playing and it was inappropriate.
Pamela Offtopic

shaw31
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 161
   Posted 11/10/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
WOW!  Thats what I can say for all of your amazing advice........mrms123, pamela, stray I appreciate it so much.  This forum is soooooooo helpfull. I have have taken the first step in what I believe is going to be better health care for me.  The first step is a decision I have made.  I will move on.  I will start looking for other PM docs.  I know I am a good patient and the more I think about the procedure thing and the fact that this guys office never has anyone in it tells me I am his cash cow.  Can anything be done about this guy.  Its kind of scary.  Oh well I will get out of it.  There are other PM docs out there that do this for the right reason.  I really appreciate everones help.  You all have been great.  Also, when you get your records does the new docs office have to get them or can the patient bring them right over?  You all are great , I will keep you all informed.  stray, can you tell me of these sites that show you good PM docs? or maybe it was pam.....can you tell me?

PAlady
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 6795
   Posted 11/10/2008 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Shaw,
You have a right to request your records, although they may charge a reasonable copying charge for them. I'd suggest getting them so that you can hand deliver them (because things often don't get delivered when they should) AND you can see what is in them. Make copy for your own records, too. That way if this doc has said anything negative you will know and can offer an explanation. It may also be - this is what I most often find - that records are fairly incomplete and don't contain all the things you've actually reported (all your symptoms, etc.). Often I write a letter to a new doctor and bring it with me to put in the records, something that lists all my symptoms, my medications as well as a general list of history of what procedures/treatments I've had, and what have helped and what haven't. Especially in the case of this dco who was doing all these procedures, you want to make sure your next doc know what helped and that many of the procedures didn't.

You may be able to check your state's licensing board's website and see if any complaints have been filed against this doc, but sometimes there may be nothing formal. There are also increasing websites where we can rate our own docs, and see others' ratings - like ratemd.com and I thinkj angie's list also is starting a section for rating doctors. Don't just look in their forums - look at the actual ratings. Plus you can add your own ratings. Maybe if we all did more of that the consumer movement re: docs would grow and we'd know how to make better selections, although a couple of bad (or good) ratings aren't necessarily the final verdict, but it's a start.

PaLady

Pamela Neckpain
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 1821
   Posted 11/11/2008 2:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I glanced over the posts on this topic:
Problems with CP Doc. Please read!
She wow wow ... You really hit a nerve, Shaw.
Gooood Luck as you go sailing off into unchartered territory.
Let us know.
Especially me!!
Pamela Neckpain, Queen of the Chickens
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