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DavidH
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   Posted Today 3:09 AM (GMT -7)   
any idears on getting some sleep?

As like most of use I have not slept a good night in so long, But over the last week I had a total of 13 hours for the week. anyone got some good hints shocked

Thanks

David
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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted Today 3:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I read somewhere that chronic pain people don't sleep a full night. They actually
need to get up and move their muscles. I sure don't sleep a full night but it
doesn't bother me. I usually have the luxury of sleeping whenever.

Sometimes I get up and paint. I go to sleep with the brush in my hand and drip
paint on my field of daiseys. Worse than that ... I swear I answer and write my
problems while I'm 3/4 asleep.

It's really bad when I take Ambien. In the summer, I step outside and sleep in
the lawn furniture. It's not a good idea where I live ~ not safe. When neighbors
wake up I look hilarious. This embarasses my husband.

I just don't like to let go of the day. There's always something to watchm or do.
A trip to Walgreens is a real treat to me. I guess I'm just lookin' for a fun time.

Pamela wrote this while mostly asleep.

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted Today 3:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I dress properly when I go to Walgreens .......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


skeye
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   Posted Today 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Wish I could help, I didn't sleep at all last night. My usual routine didn't help me at all. shakehead

kara487
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   Posted Today 7:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Skeye,I am sorry you didn't sleep last night. I was like that monday night and finally got some sleep last night. I can sympathize what your going through. I have had insomnia since september. I hope you can get some sleep tonight. I hope you have a LPD.
Lortab,ambien,elavil,reglan , neurontin,zyrtec and soma.
 
spinal conditions: Scolosis,herniated discs,spinal blockage,Spinal stenosis,bursitis ,Fibro,and arthritis


skeye
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   Posted Today 7:18 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Kara!

I'm not new to insomnia either, I've had it most of my life, although it got much worse with the CP. I usually get at least 3hrs. This probably has something to do with me having slept for nearly 3 days straight this weekend due to a massive build up of medication side-effects along with sleep deprivation. Too bad it was "drugged sleep" rather than restoritive sleep. I just seem to be having a bad week with everything.

Sorry for taking over your thread David. I'm sure I can come up with some advice once I get some sleep myself.


Pete trips again!
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   Posted Today 9:06 AM (GMT -7)   
David,
lack of sleep goes hand and hand w/ CP. I'll bet that almost everyone here doesn't sleep normally. My only suggestion for you is if you have time, take naps. I only get 3 - 4 hours a night and have for as long as I can remember and I get up every hour to pee or the bed will be wet in the AM. (thanks to prostate cancer surgery) I drive 40 miles to work and have to be here at 5:30AM. I head back home at 4:30 - 5:00pm and fight the RT 95 traffic here in S.E. Fla. which is loads of fun this time of year w/ all the retired northerners who just have to be on the roads at that time to get their "early bird specials" at the local resturants. Most are what we call "Blue Heads" dowmn here who most of the time don't have a clue where their going so they stay in the left lane at 40mph with tractor trailers passing them on the right at 80mph. Thats why RT 95 between West Palm Beach & Miami is the most deadly highway in the country! Sorry, side tracked again. But, as soon as I get home and after playing w/ my animals, Mr. Nap comes to visit. Even if it's only 10 or 15 minutes, I feel so much better than going w/o! about 1/2 hr is best for me, any longer and I get the groggies. If you have a hard time taking a nap, take a really hot shower, then lie down in the quiet if possable. Hope this helps and sorry about lousing focus> Sometimes I can't help it!
Your Friend,
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Gamma
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   Posted Today 9:32 AM (GMT -7)   

Have you tried one of the OTC products made from natural ingredients?  I like 5-HTP, it puts me to sleep and I stay that way almost all night.  Or maybe one of the products that has tryptophane(sp?).  That's the same chemical found in turkey, that makes so many people sleepy.

Of course, you should ask your doctor or pharmacist before trying any of these products.


Gentle hugs,
 
Gamma
 
Fibro, Osteoporosis, OA, RA, DDD, IBS, Vertigo, Tinnitus, Carpel Tunnel, Epilepsy, TMJ,  Hypothyroidism, Familial Tremors, Spasms, Neuropathy, Trigeminal neuralgia, heel spurs
 
 


Tirzah
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   Posted Today 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
There are a lot of posts on this. Just do a site search for sleep & you will find plenty of ideas.

My favorite -- and I was sure I was the only one crazy enough for this to work, but others have said the same -- is to use lavender. I have a lavender pillow spray. On trips I use lavender hand lotion & sleep w/ my hands close to my face. In the past I've used lavender satchels inside my pillow cases. It must be real lavender (the ones that are just scented to smell like lavender don't work). I know it sounds kinda hocus-pocus, but I've tried everything from Ambien to Lunesta to sleep hygiene & so on. This actually works the best. The sleep doctor actually recommended it to me, so perhaps there's something to it.

Also, the Sleep Doc I saw said that your BR should be 5 degrees colder than the rest of your house (at least at bedtime). The colder temps encourage your body to go to sleep. It does not work to just lower the temperature in your whole house. You would need to close some vents or turn your radiator only halfway open so that your bedroom is cooler.

Anyways, that's what worked for me. Mostly I do pretty good getting sleep now. When things occasionally get out of control I will take a Lunesta.

Best of luck to you,
frances

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted Today 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I too have had many problems with sleep in the past 4 years. Unfortunately it comes with the territory when your a CPer like us. I've woken up at 3 am just writhing in pain and had to move. Gone in taken a bath and fallen asleep in the tub and still not been able to fall asleep in bed. But since I have moved hubby bought a sleep comfort bed and that has helped a bit with my sleep pattern. I am now getting around 5-6 hours of sleep with the pain now down to an 8 by morning. Better then what it was before which was a solid 10 all the time.

There are nights where I just cannot stay in bed after 3 am and have to get up and move and on these days I just have trouble keeping awake during the day. If hubby ever puts me in the car or truck anytime I will fall asleep within two minutes of leaving the city. I've also fallen asleep during dinner, on the toilet, in my chair and various other places and I just feel embarrassed by this. Anyway thought I would put my two cents in and now I am off to nap (hahaha)

Scarred
HEALTH ISSUES: Herniated discs at S-1-L5, L5-L4, L4-L3. Two level fusion (2000); one level fusion (2002); Revision at L4-L3 (2003). Diagnosed with Failed Back Syndrome, Permanent Nerve damage and Chronic Pain

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Kadian, Lexipro, Percocet, Temazapim, Lunista, and Robaxin.


DavidH
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   Posted Today 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Guys for the idears we have a lavender farm about 5 minutes down the road I will vist them and try it out. It can not hurt and it's hard to lower the temp as we are going into summer here.

Thanks for the replies

David
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kttn251977
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   Posted Today 4:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I haven't had decent sleep longer than I could even remember. My insomnia set in when I was about 12 & I have not had real hard sleep since..... as I am typing this my husband is lying here next to me snoring..... (sighs) My dr has given me an rx for restoril. I really like it a lot. I did not get any results from ambien or rozerm. (they both gave me a headache) but this is a relatively cheap medication. I don't feel weird or groggy the next day. I can usully get about 3-4 hours sleep from it. (thats good for me) I usually go days without sleep. People think I am crazy when I tell them I am up for 24-48 hours with no sleep.... but its true. I have a ritually of hot baths & chocolate milk before bed. (instead of grape juice!) :) Maybe talk to your dr about something. If you have CP, chances are you have insomnia.
RX's: Oxycontin 80 MG 2x's daily; Dilaudid 8 MG 4xs daily; Zanaflex 4mg 3x's daily; Restoril 15mg 1x; Soma 3x's daily; Lyrica 100 MG 3x's daily (pain & fibro.); Phenergan 25 MG (as needed); Amitriptyline 25 MG 1x (chronic pain); Cymbalta 60mg 2x's daily (pain from fibro); Metoclopram (as needed) & Senokot (as needed).
"The most critical choice you'll ever make is the one you make about what you're going to do with this. The past is over. The future hasn't happened yet. The only time is now."
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DavidH
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   Posted 12/11/2008 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Guys,

What can I say YES YES YES I think lavender works,

Yesterday I went to then lavender farm and spoke with the person who owns the farm they gave me fresh cutting and told me to put it inside and pillow case inside my pillow case on the bed.

Hey I have slept for 10 hours last night yed I my be sore and missed a dose of tablets but I am well rested. Hey may be lavender is the asnwer and not grape juice LOL.

Thanks frances for the great tip and thanks to everyone for your idears.

I now know why he did not charge me for the lavender as I might just buy all his stock now!!!!!

Thanks for the support everyone.

David
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Tirzah
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   Posted 12/11/2008 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
So happy to hear it!

I know there are a ton of crazy sounding remedies out there & most of them probably are just plain crazy, but a few of them actually do work. Fortunately, the people here are pretty good about weeding out the hype from what can be legitimate all-natural treatments. :)

Wishing you another wonderful night of sleep!
frances

skeye
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   Posted 12/11/2008 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
David,

So glad to hear that the lavender helped you and that you got some sleep! I have almost the same routine as Frances. I absolutely love lavender, I find it so relaxing. I burn an aromatherapy lamp every night with lavender essential oil. I also drink lavender & camommile tea. Before I go to bed, I spray my pillow & bed with a lavender essential oil spray, and sometimes even put the essential oild directly on my pillowcase (I actually did that last night & accidentally put waaaay too much on it. It was so strong that I had to change my pillow case three times!). I wish we had lavender farms around here, like you, I'd probably buy out the whole place! Guess I'll just have to stick to my essential oils.

 
I also sometimes use rescue remedy spray, which is bach flower essences. It helps to calm me down when I'm really anxious & can also help with sleep. Melatonin, which is actually a brain hormone, is sold over the counter in the US and is also supposed to help. I bought some the other month & I think that I did sleep better when I tried it, but I also discovered that I can't take it because it really messes with my eyes & I couldn't see straight the next day. I've heard something about valerian root too, although I've never tried it. There are other OTC sleep products as well. If all else fails, you can always get a prescription sleep aid from your doc. I've been on and off them in the past, but I haven't found one that I really like.
 
I'm trying some new chinese herbs tonight that my acupuncturist gave me that are supposed to help with sleep, calming & relaxation, so hopefully I'll sleep better tonight as well.

Skeye

Post Edited (skeye) : 12/11/2008 7:22:01 PM (GMT-7)


DavidH
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   Posted 12/13/2008 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Another good noght sleep,

I urge anyone who is having trouble sleeping to try the lavender as it has worked for me!!!

Thanks

David
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PAlady
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   Posted 12/13/2008 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Is there a way to grow lavender indoors? Sort of like the way some people grow herbs? And I should add...I'm a person that tends to not tend to plants. LOL I sort of forget to water them and such So if it would be complicated I'd better forgettaboutit! But if it was something simple I could put on a windowsill....maybe.

PaLady

skeye
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   Posted 12/13/2008 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh PAlady, I know what you mean, I'm the worst with plants. But I too would love to grow some lavender...

Post Edited (skeye) : 12/13/2008 8:39:10 PM (GMT-7)


donnaeil
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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Many people are helped when they water walk or just move gently through a pool of water for about 1/2 and hour. The arthritis foundation sponsors special water exercise classes that a re pretty gentle.

Donnaeil

crps
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   Posted 12/13/2008 11:40 PM (GMT -7)   

I take Ambien CR. It works great. I dont ever think I am going to get in 10-12 hours sleep with my rsd burning and stabbing me all night, but it is definatly better than not taking it at all, thats for sure!!

                      Hope Everyone Has A Pain free Day!!

                                  Kind Regards,

                                            Mike


kttn251977
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   Posted 12/14/2008 11:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Bath & Body Works has a lavender spray that you can put on your sheets. Never worked for me- but very happy for you. I do like how my sheets smell afterwards. I take a medicine called restoril- it helps a lot for me.... at least I get about 4 hours sleep. (more than normallY) And there is no fuzzy or groggy feeling the next day. Ambien & Rozerm just gave me massive headaches. Talk to your dr about it- they should give you some samples! And, its really not that expensive anyhow. Also I take amitryptiline, it helps with pain & insomnia. Its a $4 drug at wal-mart- better than insurance. It is also good for help with depression. Hope you get some relief, I know how aggrevating it can be!
RX's: Oxycontin 80 MG 2x's daily; Dilaudid 8 MG 4xs daily; Zanaflex 4mg 3x's daily; Restoril 15mg 1x; Soma 3x's daily; Lyrica 100 MG 3x's daily (pain & fibro.); Phenergan 25 MG (as needed); Amitriptyline 25 MG 1x (chronic pain); Cymbalta 60mg 2x's daily (pain from fibro); Metoclopram (as needed) & Senokot (as needed).
"The most critical choice you'll ever make is the one you make about what you're going to do with this. The past is over. The future hasn't happened yet. The only time is now."
- Dr. Phil


kara487
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   Posted 12/15/2008 4:54 AM (GMT -7)   
I know the feeling I have had insomnia since september. I have to take ambien at night so I can sleep. Last night was a poor quality of sleep . I slept in shifts and it makes you feel you had no sleep at all.
Lortab,ambien,elavil,reglan , neurontin,zyrtec and soma.
 
spinal conditions: Scolosis,herniated discs,spinal blockage,Spinal stenosis,bursitis ,Fibro,and arthritis


QTKaren
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   Posted 12/16/2008 5:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Lavender is very easy to grow outside and then you have your clippings for the winter too. The bigger the pot the bigger they get and so pretty when blooming,one good sized plant will give you more then enough and they are very easy to take care of and come back each year. We have a vacant lot in town that is over-run with lavander plants smells so good when you walk by. I started with a 5 dollar plant from walmart and in one year it was transferred to a 10 gallon plastic tub!!
Karen
 
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