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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/12/2008 1:40 PM (GMT -7)   
We have lost so much money due to
my health condition. We are required
to move. AGAIN. We found a good place
with a good view. A lot less.

They'll paint your accent walls any color
you want! (unecessary for me to mention)

My question: The apartment is on the
second floor.
The stairs kinda bother me but then
just merely walking "kinda" bothers me.

I rarely go out and the stairs are broad,
wide and on the outside of our place.

I believe your guess will be as good
as mine.

Pamela

ekkorose
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   Posted 12/12/2008 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
My house is two story so I climb the stairs many times a day. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to go up them and others it is no problem at all. I forgot where in the world you are but if there is ever ice, be EXTRA careful.

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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/12/2008 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
ekkorose,
I'm kinda hovering by the computer. Thank you for your "vote". It's strange but
in this whole world, there is nobody who can answer this question except me and
the forum.
My doctor wouldn't say a word.
My husband doesn't know. I don't know.
I don't talk to anybody else. After seven years, my daughter is just kinda catching
on. I hide it really well and I have my "I'm Fine. Fine! Fine!!" act perfected. I don't
see her if I'm having problems.
What a crazy world. How poorly understood is pain.
Thank You,
Pamela
Have a lpd : -D
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


PAlady
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   Posted 12/12/2008 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Pamela,
I have a set of about 6 steps going up to my front door. I had them rebuilt a few years ago, thankfully (when I had a job!), and make them wider and with a sturdy handle because here I live through winter. I go through a lot of ice melt!

Can you go up and down them a few times to see how they feel? Make sure there's a sturdy handle that's easy for your hand, and USE IT. Do you have to contend with ice or winter? Just some thoughts. But it sounds like a possibility if everything else is ok and you don't have to use them every day.

Just make sure they're all in good repair before you move in - no loose boards or anything for tripping.

PaLady

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/12/2008 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for your vote, PAl,
There's no ice in California. The stairs are in very good
repair. There's a good rail.
Tomorrow we will either lease the place. (or not)
We leased a place a couple of years ago, and then backed out
and lost a lot of money.
I was afraid of the pain and disability.
I haven't gotten better physically but I have learned how to
manage it a hundred times better.
No decision yet ... Last night I slept sitting straight up at
the table where I do my Christmas cards.
(A strange habit that I've picked up)
I gotta get those cards done!
Pamela
I think I'd rather be here sending greetings to y'all. yeah

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:08 PM (GMT -7)   
My husband came in to read my posts on the subject of moving.
I made a mistake. Of course there is snow and ice and sleet in
California.
Think of the Sierra Nevada! Think of the Donner Party! Why, Yosemite
is practically in my backyard.
I wish Kara was around. Her problems are kinda like mine. I do know
that she's out of town with her hubby and MIL. She wishes us all a
lpd. : - )
It's NOT to late to vote, boys and girls. :-)

PAlady
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Pamela,
Is the rest of the place good for you re: your health/pain situation? Are the stairs the only issue? How much pain DO they cause you when you climb them? If it's not much more than the usual pain, and you don't have to use them regularly (like to go work every day) it sounds like it's doable. But like me and others have said - just be careful. I use mine and look like an old lady. I take one step at a time, both feet on each step while grabbing the railing. I go SLOW. And if it's at all icey I make sure I use a lot of the ice melt stuff. I live alone so I've got to do this myself, no choice.

What does your husband think?

PaLady

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/12/2008 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
PaL~

Oh, I wish we were neighbors. We could drink tea and complain to one another.

I go one step at a time. I definitely do not look graceful and athletic. Yecht.
It's one step at a time. s-------l--------o-------w. It has the smallest kitchen
I've ever seen.

DH and I will make the decision tomorrow.

The place has ducks, fountains, and trees ... I may just move in and never leave.

Interesting board today. Don't you think so? e-mail me a Xmas card if you like.

Pamela

PAlady
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   Posted 12/13/2008 12:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Ducks, fountains and trees....sounds soothing and intriguing. You said there was a nice view - I'm presuming of all these things. Maybe the steps won't be such a big deal!

I wish I lived closer, too, although I think we ought to consider Australia after the health care they seem to have!

Yes, this board was busy today. Some days it's very slow here. Like climbing steps. ;-)

I can't even believe Christmas is almost here. Just started buying a very, very few presents for a very few close family - mostly children. I'm just not interested. Feel soooo tired these days, and cold. I want to live whre it's warm!

PaLady

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 12/13/2008 2:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I just recently bought a new house as you know Pam and this was one of my biggest concerns when I was shopping for a home. Many Victorians around here and as it is my childhood dream home of course I could not pass up the opportunity to view a few. But........after walking up several staircases and telling myself that I would have to do this everyday as the bedrooms were on the second floor I decided against the Victorian and went with a one level home (yes it has a basement but I rarely go downstairs unless it is to do laundry and usually its on a good day to do that) that I am truly happy with.

My bedroom is two steps away from the bathroom and it is so nice to have a home where everything is easily accessible. Anyway my two cents.

Love

Scarred
HEALTH ISSUES: Herniated discs at S-1-L5, L5-L4, L4-L3. Two level fusion (2000); one level fusion (2002); Revision at L4-L3 (2003). Diagnosed with Failed Back Syndrome, Permanent Nerve damage and Chronic Pain

Medications:

Kadian, Lexipro, Percocet, Temazapim, Lunista, and Robaxin.


Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/13/2008 3:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Scarred.

It's that darn S-1 that causes the majority of the problems I think. Also all the
Lumbar problems.

Well, I was confused before and I remain confused. Thank you for your vote, Scarred.

Pamela
MEDICAL CONDITIONS

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


Chartreux
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   Posted 12/13/2008 6:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Hope ya don't mind if I give an answer to PAlady:
PAlady get someone at a feed store to help you get a small bag of dirt or cat liter,
keep it by the front door in the winter time so when the stairs get icy
you toss some dirt or cat liter on the icy as it's right there by the front door
and dirt or cat liter will give you traction so you won't fall off those stairs...
Sure, hope this advise helps...
Wishing y'all well and hope we all get a pain free day sometime...
lots of soft hugz...
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PAlady
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   Posted 12/13/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Char,
Thanks but I have a system pretty well down by now. Had to figure it out last year after my back surgery! I keep the ice melt by the door in containers and just go out and sprinkle it at night so hopefully it doesn't get too bad. You have to be careful wtih things like kitty litter on steps. It can actually be easier to slip on. I also have those things you put on your shoes - get a grips I think they're called - kind of like tire studs for shoes! I'm glad I don't have to go out every day, but when I do I have to watch the the temperatures on the weather to see when they're going to be around 32 and then plans go into action. LOL I actually prefer a couple of inches of snow; it's not so slippery and I can walk through it without shoveling. It's going to be along winter here in the Northeast this year. Started early. Yuck.

Pamela - I'm presuming you don't have any steps INSIDE the place, right? Because that would be an automatic no-no for me.

PaLady

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/13/2008 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
So glad you got a system worked out PAlady, I was getting
worried about ya..Winter can be so hard and more stressful then summer..
I'd still recommend a small contain of sand for a just in case you forget that
ice melt, always good to have a plan, so glad your prepared. and Pamela, I agree
with PAlady about the indoor steps, they can be so hard on you so hope your
new place only has the outside steps..
Take care y'all
and lots of soft hugz
and snow is better than ice as snow gives you traction, but not fun to shovel...
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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I have not made a decision yet. There are no inside steps. With the stock market
like it is and the extent of my medical bills, I feel like we should get a tent.
We've been looking for other places. It's sooo hard for me to go from place to
place. We have to pay $15 a month for the cat and can only have the cat if
it's a "working cat" That is I will have to have a letter from my doctor stating
that I need my lap cat for my health.
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but I don't like my unattractive cat. It's my husband's cat.
Pamela

I'd be shocked if the doctor wouldn't sign a letter stating my desperate need for
my long, scrawny, over fed cat. The dam cat costs us $70 a month just in food.
However, it would be like euthanizing Uncle Henry if we sent the cat away.
She is so dependent that her only place in life is with us. I will NEVER have
another pet.

PAlady
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   Posted 12/13/2008 11:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Pamela,
I never heard of a "working cat" before. And I'm a cat lover! So I learned something new tonight!

BTW, add an extra "room" to that tent for me. I think we should all go to Washington and ask for a a bail out. Or a new car. Or something.
Hey - how about health care?? yeah

PaLady

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/14/2008 12:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey - how about health care??? yeah yeah

skeye
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   Posted 12/14/2008 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh, Pamela, I wouldn't rule out your doctor signing the cat letter. I've been at my parent's house the last few nights, and one of my cats has slept on my bed each night since I was home. He is the sweetest cat ever, with the loudest purr. It was so comforting to feel his warmth & love. When I couldn't sleep because of the pain and was feeling lonely & depressed, I just cuddled with him & listened to his purr. I am really going to miss it tonight. If you really want the cat, and you explain to your doctor how much an animal can help with one's pain, depression, etc, he might just sign that letter!

I'd hate to see something bad happen to the cat just because of the rules of the new apartment. Euthanasia is a great option for very sick, suffering, dying animals. Sometimes it is the kindest thing that we can do. But, it is used for too often for getting rid of unwanted animals & stray animals, and in that case, it becomes a very sad, horrible procedure. Just think what it would be like if we did this to all the "stray" and unwanted people in the world to try to control our overgrowing human population. Sorry to rant on about this, but I am a huge animal lover & advocate. Honestly, if I lived near you & had my own place where I would keep a cat, I'd take your cat rather than see you have to give it to a shelter or put it down.

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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/14/2008 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
skeye ...
I would shoot my foot off before I'd send my lengthy cat to the great somewhere.
If people do go to h-e double tooth picks it's because they euthanize their cats.
Pamela is a friend to cats.
purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I wonder if the computer will take the word hell? (I tried) smilewinkgrin

p.s.
Whoa!

skeye
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   Posted 12/14/2008 7:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Pamela,

So glad to hear it! I've been very emotional lately, which is where the other post came from.

If the only way you can get your new landlord to let you keep the cat is if it is a "working cat," (which as PAlady said, I've never heard of before) is to get a doctor's note. You could always have your psychologist/psychiatrist (I think you've mentioned you had one) write you a note. He'd probably be able to explain how much animals help us CPers even more than your PM or another doctor. Just a thought.

Skeye

PAlady
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   Posted 12/14/2008 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I'd really like to learn more about this "working cat" issue. I'm thinking it's like "working dogs" - those I have heard of. Exceptions are made where pets aren't normally allowed. Since research has shown the purr of a cat can help with stress, lower blood pressure and such, it's an intiguing possibility to me.

PaLady

skeye
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   Posted 12/14/2008 8:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm definitely going to have to google "working cats." Like you said, PAlady, dogs are the infamous "working animals," and I've even heard of "working horses" (miniture horses - "guiding eye horses" for the blind, instead of a guiding eye dog), but cats? If there is such a thing, maybe you could get funding to keep a working cat, PALady! Although there is still the issue of taking care of it from day-to-day.

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/15/2008 2:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Skeye,
Kindness to animals is such an important issue that my dentist would probably
send me a note.
I get a wee bit emotional myself sometimes so I understand all to well. All is
forgiven. : ))
Cats have great eyes. Who is to say that MY cat does not lead me through the
blurr of my nearsightedness.
Sheesh, even my optometrist would vouch for me.
Pamela

kara487
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   Posted 12/15/2008 4:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Pamela,I use to live in a house with lots of stairs and it hurt me everytime my husband had to help me down the stairs . Can your husband help you? Fortunely when we moved we movecd to an apt on the first floor. Is the stairs and railing sturdy you can use them for support. I hope you have a lpd.
Lortab,ambien,elavil,reglan , neurontin,zyrtec and soma.
 
spinal conditions: Scolosis,herniated discs,spinal blockage,Spinal stenosis,bursitis ,Fibro,and arthritis


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 12/15/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Pam; The S1-L4 is the worst because it affects the tailbone as well as the lower nerves. Unfortunately I am back the way I was before we even started the surgeries almost 9 years ago *sigh* does it ever end? Which is probably why no neurosurgeon will ever operate if L2-3 or L1-2 were to herniate. Ah the joys of having a Chronic pain problem eh? darned if you do and darned if you don't. I've spent the last three days in bed because I am have so much leg pain that I can barely walk from the bedroom to the bathroom. The weather here in KS is very cold and quite windy so it plays hell on everything including my poor nerves.

Had to break down and head for the basement today to do a load of laundry cause I am out of pretty much everything as far as clothes and that hurt ugggg god I hate winter time. Oh well enough venting I'm gonna curl up under the covers and put the heating pad to my back for awhile.

Scarred
HEALTH ISSUES: Herniated discs at S-1-L5, L5-L4, L4-L3. Two level fusion (2000); one level fusion (2002); Revision at L4-L3 (2003). Diagnosed with Failed Back Syndrome, Permanent Nerve damage and Chronic Pain

Medications:

Kadian, Lexipro, Percocet, Temazapim, Lunista, and Robaxin.

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