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rwolhar
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   Posted 12/13/2008 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I am new to this site. I recently hurt my back and after mri's and x rays found out a torn muscle in my back was causing a severe "puching" feeling. I have been from vicodins to percocets now to oxy 15mg's and also on Somas and IBprofin.

The muscle is said to heal after about 6 months but I have since been going to a pain management and I can feel my dependency for these pills building. I am supposed to take 5 oxy's a day and I take 3 5 times a day by cutting them in half and such.

I also have herniated disks and back pain from a car accident. Is this possible to take oxy's for 1 year or 2 years? when is this dr. going to say enough.

How do they take you off the medicine? do they ween you off, do they lower your script? I am nervous that one time I go back they are gonna say no more.

I also have a tens unit! I love it. i go to the chiropractor and i love that too. I got a script for massage but my insurance won't cover it....darn!


I feel for anyone with pain. It is awful and hard to explain to get treatment. My days are from a 7 to a 4 right now but I am constantly adjusting and poppong my back......I wish it would go away.

Thanks for listening. I look forward to answering some posts and contributing.

PAlady
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   Posted 12/13/2008 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Rwolhar,
Welcome to the chronic pain forum of HW. We're not doctors but can offer support and share experiences.

Are you taking oxycontin or oxycodone? The oxycontin is the longer acting form of oxycondone (percocet is oxycodone with tylenol). You should NOT be breaking oxycontin in half, as you interfere with the extended action of the drug and you may get too much. It's what addicts do to get high from the oxycontin (I'm not saying you are, just saying that prevents the drug from working as it's supposed to).

You can be on these medications for extended periods under medical supervision. All of us who are will develop physical dependence on them, which is different from addiction. If you're lucky enough to be able to discontinue the medication, it should always be done under medical supervision. Withdrawing on your own, or abruptly, can be dangerous and even life threatening. It sounds like your doctor is willing to prescribe what's needed for your pain, which is great. Many of us have difficulties finding decent help. The torn muscle plus your history from the car accident may mean you have some pain for the rest of your life. I don't know that for sure, but it's a possibility. But you sound like you're doing a lot of things to try to help in addition to medicaiton, and that's great. Be careful of chiropractors, though; they can be helpful but may also cause more injury. Be sure to discuss it all with your doctor. You also mention popping your back. Not sure what you mean there, but if it's like what many of us do thinking it's helpful (like cracking a nuckle) it actually might be harmful if you're cracking ligaments and weakening them. Again ask your doctor.

it's frustrating that muscles can take so long to heal. But keep giving yourself lots of TLC and do everything your doc recommends. I don't THINK your doc should say "enough" unless you're developing a tolerance too quickly. One thing - do you have an addictions in your family? A genetic predisposition is possibe, and that could increase the speed with which you become tolerant. It sounds like you could talk honeslty with your doctor, and see what he is thinking in terms of the near future and the long run.

PaLady

rwolhar
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   Posted 12/14/2008 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank You for your response. Most of the addictions in my family is alcohol. I drink maybe 3 beers a year. I am very aware and cautious to the risk of addiction.
I am very comfortable taking these pills every day. Like I said, I even take less than I am supposed to. I have the oxycodone. . . and they have a line where you can cut it. I am very happy with the results of this blend of pills and it really helps me and I am not drowsy or absent minded at all.
My main concern is the fact that the treatment it for my muscle but I have other pain that I guess I had just grown accustomed to living with. Now I know there is a solution and I do not want my dr. to think I am just trying to prolong the pills. It really changes my way of life by reducing the pain. I can get out of bed easier, move around, even play with my kids.

Are there people who take pain medication every day for the rest of their life? What are the risks associated with that. I know the IBProfin can cause stomach and kidney problems . . . but as far as the oxycodone....is it ok for long term relief?

Is there any other medication anyone takes that they would recommend to substitute the oxycodone?

I am sure I am developing a dependency because I had the flu about 2 weeks ago and was unable to take the pills for 2 days and my muscle pains, sweating, and even my dreams were very heightened. That worries me b/c I know there are a lot of people abusing these drugs and making it tough for dr.s to trust the patient.

uniquelyme
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   Posted 12/14/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
rwolhar
I take methadone for the bad pain and Lortab 10 for the breakthrough pain. Anything you take can cause dependence, so just take whatever the way u are supposed to.

Me.
 
 
spinal stenosis,degenerative disc disease,bilateral neuropothy.
lamenectomy L3,L4..spinal fusion L4-S1
 


Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 12/14/2008 1:24 PM (GMT -7)   
DON'T CUT OXYCONTINS IN HALF!!!! (without your doctor's permission)

Post Edited (Pamela Neckpain) : 12/14/2008 1:28:23 PM (GMT-7)


uniquelyme
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   Posted 12/14/2008 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
4 real, it could kill u.

Me.
 
 
spinal stenosis,degenerative disc disease,bilateral neuropothy.
lamenectomy L3,L4..spinal fusion L4-S1
 


PAlady
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   Posted 12/14/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Rwolhar,
It sounds like you're looking for a cure for your pain, as we all do. But a lot of times cures aren't possible, so we have to manage the pain, and as you indicate you had some pain from the accident and that's probably not going to totally go away.

I would say you probably have to accept some level of pain, and try to put together various treatments that help you minimize the amount of medication you may need. That usually starts with a good physical therapist, and then learning to include the right stretches, etc. (and I'd suggest learning from a PT rather than a chiro) into your daily lifestyle, along with learning how to stand, sit, move, etc. with good posture and ergonomics. Even with that, you may need medication. No medication is without side effects, as you indicate, be it OTC products or narcotics or anything in between. Most all of us would like to not take the medications we do, but realize it's the only way we can have any quality of life. Seeing a counselor or psychologist who specializes in dealing with pain issues may help you make peace with whatever pain won't go away.

I would add that the fact you've got addiction of any type in your family means you may have a genetic predisposition to developing tolerance more quickly. Many of these drugs use the same pathways - be it alcohol or xanax or oxycodone - in the brain, and can create the same type of effects re: addiciton. So don't think because it's alcohol in your family tree that your genetics have no relationship to the other substances. I'd suggest discussing this with your doctor to see what options you have; you may want to consult an Addictionologist, who is an M.D. with a specialty in addiction medicine. As with all of us, you want to do all the non-pharmaceutical things you can to help yourself first (PT, acupuncture, etc. - if you can afford them, and if they're appropriate).

PaLady
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