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Tirzah
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   Posted 3/13/2009 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi PA,
I know you're, like me, always looking for more money. I was on my states DES site & they posted the following announcement:
Federal tax exemption: The first $2,400 of UI benefits received during the 2009 tax year are not subject to federal taxes. If you wish to change your withholding status on your current claim, please complete the TAX-2 form and fax the form to ### or mail the form to ###.

I know it's not much, but every little bit counts, right? Of course, if you're like me & don't pay any taxes b/c your medical bills are so astronomically high I guess it won't help, but I will just hope and pray that isn't the case.

take care,
frances

PAlady
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   Posted 3/13/2009 8:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Frances!

I had heard that the feds might not tax UE benefits, but everything was so confusing when the recovery package was planned I wasn't sure about hte details. i wonder what they are doing with 2008 UE benefits. I'll have to check. But I don't pay much in taxes either, my income has reduced so much.

Did you get your extra $25 check? At least I think that's what it came from - the stimulus package. I only wish I coud have got in on the COBRA help. But I was laid off way before the date they have of 9/1/08. Now THAT would have really helped, especially my cousin, who's gifting me the money. Not much left on my COBRA anyway, so I'll be hoping I quailfy for Medicaid while I wait for Social Security. I dread applying for all those programs. For the first time I sent in an application for the low income energy heating assistance, but haven't heard back yet.

Fun, eh?

Thanks again.

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/13/2009 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, the $25 extra is from the stimulus & it will last through 2010.

I tell ya, I just hate all of this. I should be spending all my time looking for a job but instead I have to get side tracked with all this stupid stuff. I got a 60-Day Notice from my work, so I still "get paid" through part of April. Unfortunately, someone screwed up my timekeeping & apparently I owed the company money from last September, so I got all of $150 for the past month. Who hoo, that ought to be enough to pay my mortgage, right? What a mess!

I'm trying to get ahead of the game with starting my UI application now. From what IL's site said, 2008 benefits were all taxed at your normal rate. I've heard I will get an extra 5% tacked on to my April paychecks as part of the stimulus money. I guess it's better than nothing. I'm just so discouraged right now. I finally get a procedure that actually works after years of getting worse & worse, and now I can't even enjoy it b/c I am in such a deep hole I can't even see the light. :(

I too am trying to apply for utilities assistance. I need to go over to Salvation Army next week to take care of that. I'm kinda thinking though that I wish I could put it off another month so they would pay 2 months. My only concern is that a lot of employers run credit checks these days & if I let it go into default that might cause probs with my credit score. I don't know. It's all just so overwhelming. I also need to find out whether there is any way that someone calling the police on me a few years back for something other than an illegal activity could show up in a background investigation. Any ideas? I doubt an employer would want to hire someone with a history of depression. Who knows, maybe they would. If I had a chance to explain I could tell them it was Serotonin Syndrome & that I'm not usually over the top like that, but I don't know.

Most of the jobs in my state are federal jobs -- go stimulus package. It is an absolute nightmare to apply for any of them (seriously, it's like 5 pages of essays for each job), but they do pay pretty well, are stable, offer great benefits & would let me work from home some and have time off twice a month for doctor's visits, so in that respect they're pretty good. If you're interested, their website is www.usajobs.gov. I know you said you weren't sure if you're well enough to work, but if something changes it's something to keep in mind. Some of the jobs even let you work entirely from home.

I'm trying to stay positive, but everything just seems so negative right now. No job. No money. No way to pay my bills. And every day I try to stay on task applying for stupid jobs that for the most part I hate. They all ask for MBA's with 20 years of experience and pay $12/hour. What is this world coming to? Then to top it all off, our shady ex-governor ran the Transportation Authority into the ground giving free rides to seniors, so now the rest of us have to pay $8/ride starting next month. At that rate, I don't think I will even be able to AFFORD to look for a job. I'm thinking of planting some magic beans instead. I'll let you know when I find the golden goose & we can split up the proceeds. :)

PAlady
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   Posted 3/13/2009 9:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I'll look for the golden goose, too! Maybe one of us will get lucky! yeah

Overwhelming it is. And I'm nearly 60 so that puts an entire light on everything. Plus aging does matter when it comes to energy levels and pain. And it's tough to prove hiring discrimination, especially in a climate like this.

I've applied for jobs with the V.A. in the past and have copies of my applications that take up nearly an entire file cabinet. I'm way too familiar with usa.jobs! But I do have friends that work there and the pay and benefits are great. But I would need to pass a health eval., which I'll never be able to do. I can't have my doctors on one hand saying it's ok for me to work and on the other hand saying I'm disabled. I know I can stiill earn a small amount even on disability but I've got to figure all that out first.

But you're so right when you put together everything you need to do just to keep afloat - all the applications, plus our health appoinments and meds and such - and then add job applications on top of that. I can barely do one or two things a week. That is probably telling me what I need to learn but don't want to. Make sense?

You're in a different place though, especially with youth. And you're right, it was so unfair right after your RF. The good thing is that should mean you can pass a physical.

Ok,, it's late and I'm rambling all over this board!

Thanks again. And that $25 - I'd say don't spend it all in one place, but we'll probably end up using it for a co-pay. What fun.

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/13/2009 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
PA,
You're not rambling at all. Not all gov't jobs require physicals. I know a bunch of people who work for the FDA, for example, and none of them had to pass a physical. The jobs for which I'm applying with the DOJ & DEA (& maybe the DOF, but I'm just not sure I can take typing about tree all day :) don't require any physicals, just a background check & U/A showing only legal drugs. I think it just depends on the job.

Some positions are even set aside specifically for people with documented disabilities. In fact, the new stimulus plan set aside more jobs than ever for disabled workers. I decided not to go that route, but a friend of mine got a job after admitting that she has numerous disabilities (physical & neurological) and would need significant work modifications & to be able to work at home most of the time. They hired her. Also, I know my PM works for the Army Reserve (though, he's military, not civilian) and when his pain level got too bad to be able to do surgeries, exams & such, he was able to apply for a cushy job where he just sits (or sometimes lays down) & reviews medical documents. Maybe you could get something like that.

Definitely not saying you have to, just saying it's an option. I really don't know your situation entirely. Maybe work is just too much right now. If that's the case, I will pray for you to find a magic cure first and then the golden goose. I just know sometimes we really want to work, it's just that the working conditions are not such that CPers can actually do much. I just think you have a lot to offer this world & while you don't have to get paid to contribute in a meaningful way, I wish that you could get paid b/c you are pretty wise & I think we need more people like that in the working world.

blessings,
frances

fatherjohn
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   Posted 3/13/2009 10:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Frances and PAlady, I was reading your posts and when you mentioned the magic beans and the golden goose, I just had to laugh. You two are such a hoot. As you face all these hurdles with the weight of CP, you still have a sense of humor. Horay for you two. I could not imagine trying to find a new job right now. With an unemploment rate at near 10% here, it is tough. I just saw a news report that said the depression we are in won't last forever, should be over in 5 years. Now thats discouraging. What are peopel to do for 5 years. I should appologize for crashing you thread but I could not resist. Blessings to both of you.

PAlady
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   Posted 3/13/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Fatherjohn,
You're never a crasher! And I think one thing being here on HW has helped me to do is maintain a sense of humor (particularly our "flying" thread).

It makes a huge difference if things will be over in a few years when you're nearly sixty. And that's a reality I have to take into account. But I will. And with the help and cariing of all of you here I'll find my path. So will you, Frances, as you're an intelligent woman with much to offer. How we offer our talents....well, who knows? There's always that golden goose! Fatherjohn, want to help us hunt? We can split it 3 ways!

Speaking of a sense of humor, I'll just share when I was at the Humane Society yesterday I was playing with a little kitten and found myself laughing as he tugged at the toys attached to the glove I was wearing (it was a cat toy thing!). And he was purring so loudly....I nearly took him home, but I think he may need a lot of kids to play with. But I'm going to pay more visits there. That laughter felt good. Just thought I'd share that!

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/13/2009 10:49 PM (GMT -7)   
John,
No apologies needed. The 5 years is for the stock market to turn around. I have no doubt that that will happen as predicted. I used to work in investments & everyone I talk to, even the severest pessimists believe that. That wisdom is really best for people who are absolutely panic-stricken about their retirement plans. One should never have any money they will need within 5 years in the stock market. As long as you have enough to live on for 5 more years, you will be okay.

That said, the jobs situation is entirely different. It is pretty depressing. We're at over 9% in my state right now, but it's increasing very quickly. My company just laid off a quarter of its employees. That just 2 years after we had a massive VTO that turned out to be much bigger than expected. So we've cut staff by over half in under 3 years. Every day I wake up to see headlines that another company laid off thousands more employees. It's just tragic. Unemployment offices are hiring huge numbers of workers every week to handle the workload & they are open 12+ hours a day and still have to turn people away there are so many new claims coming in. They even pay incentives to people who e-file for their UI benefits in my area b/c the lines have gotten out of control. The hope is that the jobs situation will be turned around by the end of next year. That seems pretty reasonable to me, at least in my area. There are lots of new city jobs from the $1B we got from the stimulus, the state is hiring for some positions though mainly for DES, and the federal gov't has a lot of jobs posted -- literally hundreds. Plus, there are lots of incentives being paid out by both state and federal govt's to employers who create new jobs, including sizable small business grants.

I think there is every reason to have hope that things will turn around soon enough, but it is frustrating as all get out for those of us who need a job NOW. I know PA has been looking a lot longer than me & I can't see how b/c I am already angry, bitter & frustrated at the whole process. So many employers have now gone to web-based applications & e-resumes and the result is incredibly aggravating b/c you spend a few hours filling out the forms, only to be told at the very end of the process that your answer to Question #2 disqualified you from the position. ARRRGGGHHH! Sorry, I'm a little bit extra bitter today what with not getting my paycheck money & then calling those wicked people at the EAP who just want to go on & on about how they can get me hooked up with a MHW for free. I DON'T HAVE TIME to be playing stupid games with some crazy counselor. I NEED A JOB. What part about that do those people not get!!! I need financial assistance & I need help answering all these stupid KSA questions so I can apply for the federal jobs. I don't need some sappy person telling me that my life sucks, but that everything will work out if I just stay positive. :| grrrr
I already know my life sucks & anyways I'm fixing on finding that goose so then I will have things made. I just need to keep my house paid for so the goose knows he has a nice warm, happy home here with me. :) lol

Goosey, fear not, Frances is coming to find you. The beans are planted now. We just need to wait for the snow to melt so they can grow. Start laying the golden eggs now; I need enough to share! smilewinkgrin

PAlady
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   Posted 3/13/2009 11:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Frances,
Oh, those KSA's!!!! And each job has a different appication process. Sometimes the whole thing is online (like a hundred questions!) and others are all done on your own at home. That's why I saved all my old applications, so I could cut and paste as needed. But I'm not applying for any more of those right now because truly I know I can't manage full time. I just don't have the energy, especially not with the meds and without the meds I have the pain. So I will keep looking to see if I can get lucky with pt. time job, and if not I'll go visit the animals. My one good thing is my house is paid for, although it's in need of lots of work. I guess what I'll start doing is seeing what government programs I'll be eligible for now that I'll probably be around poverty level. Lots of weatherization progams will probabaly be funded, but so far locally it's only for public housing.

But I do hear your frustration and I had to laugh a bit (not that it's funnY) because I feel like screaming some of the same things. People who are still working don't know how this feels, especially to be laid off. It was the first time in my life, and I know I'm still feeling the psychological blow from that.

Ok, off goose hunting!!

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 12:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh man, too bad you can't pick up your home & move it here to IL. We have plenty of weatherization programs for private residences. I could help you get them & we could pool our meager resources to buy magic beans. I can just see the headlines now:

"GOOSE HUNTING DUO HITS THE JACKPOT"
PALady & Frances didn't wait around hoping to land one of the few jobs to be had. They took matters into their own hands. They went goose hunting. It was not just any goose they were seeking. "We were looking for a magical goose that would lay golden eggs so we could pay our bills and not have to rely on government assistance," proclaimed Frances, a 31 year old life-long resident of Illinois. "We were thinking about how we could offer up our talents & decided they would best be used to find the elusive goose," added PALady, a new immigrant from Pennsylvania who packed up all her possessions, including her house and moved to Illinois in search of weatherization assistance.
Naysayers long mocked the two claiming that the golden goose was the stuff of fairy tales, but Frances & PA have proved them all wrong. They located one dozen solid gold eggs valued at over $2MM. When asked what they plan to do with their winnings, they mentioned sharing the fortune with strange sounding characters like Florida Pete, Scarred, Pamela Neckpain and Father John, among others. As of the date of this publication, such individuals have yet to be located for comment.
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hee, hee, hee :)

fatherjohn
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   Posted 3/14/2009 12:43 AM (GMT -7)   

Ladies, I tried to post but was kicked off the site. I guess I have added my limit. In my psot that was rudely erased, I wrote that we should go into the golden goose business. Sounds like you already made it. I moved out of IL and to think, that is where the treasure is.

My job situation is a bit different. As the director of a non-profit, my job includes recruiting students, teaching, counseling and the ever so fun fundraising. When the students get to my level, they have to pay about half of their room, board, books and tuition. While they were in the one year residential drug and alcohol rehab program, they didn't pay much if anything. Most do not have income and have burt all the bridges with family and friends. They still get to stay the whole year and not pay anything. When they come to the school, they have to go out and get a job. In the 5 years since I started the school, this is the first time our students have had difficulty getting jobs. You can imagine that many of the have criminal histories that prevent them from getting jobs. Even the local WaMart won't hire most of them because of felonies, the WalMart policy. I had one student who was a dentist who lost his practice and license due to drugs and alcohol and spent time in prison. He ended up getting a job at a fast food rest. Another student had been a corporate attorney until alcohol took it all away. He got a job picking up trash. Humbling!  

about a year and a half ago, while I was speaking at an event, the head of job service in this area came to me and ask how our students got jobs beacuse he had people that had been out of work for over a year. I explained when they come in, I ask them how many hours they would work per day if they had a job. The normal answer is 8. I then tell them that their job is to spend 8 hours a day looking for work. With our minimum wage at $8.45 per hour, if they work 30 hours a week they can pay their portion of room, board, books and tuition and still have money left for spending. I have to raise the rest by finding businesses, individuals and churches to donate. That is getting to be a very difficult task in this economy. I am supposed to hire someone as soon as possible but I can't until the funds are raised. I will gladly take a golden goose or even an egg even if it is cracked.

I hope both of you have a very restful weekend and find relief from the pain. This is no yoke!

 


PAlady
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   Posted 3/14/2009 1:27 AM (GMT -7)   
It is the wee hours of the morning (or night?) and I sign on to read these two posts and am now ROFL! tongue

Fatherjohn you can gladly have one of the golden eggs. And if we find the goose, we'll all be set for life!

It figures this is all taking place in the ethical state of Illinois! First place I'm going to look is Ex. Gov. Blago's house, especially his backyard! smilewinkgrin

I only hope we don't find any remains!!! shocked

I will make scrambled eggs tomorrow and fantasize about our future good fortunes!

PaLady wink

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Fantastic! He has a very small yard, so it should not take us long to find it. :)
Unfortunately, I think he may have given away all his golden eggs to pay his PR people, lawyers & such, but if there is a golden egg left to be found, we will find it!

Anyways, not all of the people in Illinois are unethical, it's just we've had a run of bad ones, sadly all originating from my neighborhood. :( Good news is Blago lives less than a mile from me, so we can round up the search committee & head out from my happy little home. I'm thinking maybe we should sign Goosey up for the next gubernatorial race. I think he would be a good candidate -- hardworking, trustworthy & doesn't tell any lies. lol

"GOOSEY FOR GOVERNOR"
In a stunning turn of events, goose-hunting duo Frances and PALady have pitted their golden goose against a slew of unethical candidates in the 2010 race for Illinois governor. Illinois has long been plagued by sleazy, unethical gubernatorial leadership earning the state a regular slot on the late night comedy shows. But all that is going to change now, claim the two. "When Goosey is governor he will use his golden eggs to pay off the budget deficit and return the state's good credit rating. He will help out the poor and will encourage young children to get adequate exercise as he leads them on wild chases around town," claimed one volunteer with the campaign.
No one could have imagined such an usual candidate, but with the legacy former human governors have left the post, it's difficult to find fault with the logic that perhaps what Illinois needs is a gubernatorial goose. Frances and PALady are encouraging all citizens to get out and vote for a change in Illinois -- a change for the better, a change for the more honest government, a change for "The Goose".

[photo of angry looking goose taking slimy candidates to task during a local debate]

PAlady
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   Posted 3/14/2009 1:56 PM (GMT -7)   
ROFL!!!!

Frances - I think you may have missed your calling! Perhpas comedy writing? And I've got the perfect stand up comedian for you - Blago himself! In an odd way, I miss seeing him on all the talk shows. He was, afterall, entertaining! And like the gov. of California, I'm sure he'll be back!

Didn't realize you lived so close. He must have jogged by your house! But hey, Illinois has Lincoln and Obama - thankfully. So the rest of us know you're not all bad apples!! LOL

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 2:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Nah, he won't be back. He had lower approval ratings than Bush. People here hated him. Here this was supposed to be our golden era -- Obama in the White House, lots of Chicagoans on staff and in the cabinet, a beautiful city that made it into the final 4 for hosting the Olympics -- and then we get torn down by the idiot governor.

Ah well, such is life. I do miss being creative. I really loved teaching & did a lot of writing exercises with my students, including satire. It was a lot of fun. Then I got sick from the Chiari & had to leave. Now I need 8 more classes to reactivate my certificate. I was planning on doing that this year, but with no job I must put it off for another time. Well, back to writing those darn KSA's. Must keep at it so I can get lots of money, pay off my debt & be able to find a job where I get to do fun stuff all day. :)

cheers,
frances

PAlady
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   Posted 3/14/2009 2:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't realize you had been in teaching. Maybe you can still keep writing in some way (I mean besides here, LOL!). Have you thought about online teaching? I have an old computer and am only a "point and click" person so I doubt I could do online teaching, and it may not pay a lot part time. But it seems I've seen somewhere grade and high school programs that children do from their computers at home (different from what we think of as home schooling). Course I know all about the certification things. Mine isn't with teaching but other licensing. Just got my two year renewal with an exception (thanks to my NS) for taking all my CEU's at home. So that gives me another two years to figure all this stuff out.

KSA's. I think they are burned into my memory.

Oh, Blago I heard had a book deal in the works. That's what I meant about him being back! Or maybe on Comedy Central?

PaLady :-)

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 4:12 PM (GMT -7)   
PA-
I've thought about it. I tried to get hooked up with tutors.com, but they used to be pretty selective about what kinds of teachers they would take & they wanted masters degrees in a lot of cases plus some coursework in on-line education. I'm maybe going to look into it some more since a lot of our local libraries have signed site licensing agreement to offer free access to tutors.com to all their patrons, so there is a lot higher demand for tutors than ever before.
We'll see, maybe something will work out yet. If not, I am hoping to possibly somehow get involved doing some consulting for teacher training programs on engaged learning (using technology to do self-paced instruction). I have done that in the past for stipends & really enjoyed it, so perhaps that would be another option as an "in" back into the industry. Right now, though, I really just need to focus on finding work that will cover my bills. I was dumb & put my medical bills on credit cards, so that is really a lot of trouble for me right now, plus I have started to get behind on my mortgage, condo assessments, etc. I'm sure there is a way out of all of it, but it will take some time & effort. Depending on how many hours I have to work at whatever job I find, I can hopefully set aside some time for studies, volunteering & part time work, but we'll have to see. Some of the jobs require working 60-65 hours a week & I don't think I would have the strength to handle anything else for a while if that is the case.

John-
That is good advice you're giving your students. Right now I am spending an average of 10 hours a day working on searching for jobs, filling out apps, writing KSA's, working on my resume & meeting with my career counselor. It is a lot of effort with very little reward, but as you say at some point it is bound to pay off. I'm mostly just frustrated b/c it used to be that there were plenty of stats about what was required to get a job -- send out 100 resumes and you're likely to get 2-3 job offers. But right now, nobody can say anything except that job hunters need to keep at it & work diligently and hopefully they will get lucky and land a job offer. I'm kinda an analytical person & I take a lot of comfort in numbers, but we've just not studied what it would take right now to land a few job offers & that's hard to face. But, nothing to be done about it, so I need to just keep at it. Hope your students are able to find jobs as well. I'm sure with as much trouble as I'm having right now that they must be having a really tough time. If they are just looking for minimum wage positions, maybe they could try the local dollar stores. The ones around here are hiring all the time & host regular open-house job "fairs" at their stores.

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   Posted 3/14/2009 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
This is truly a uniquely challenging time for job hunting, that's for sure. And if you've got anything that makes you questionable, well...that's going to make it extremely tough and disheartening. If I were younger I would be looking closely at whatever comes from this stimulus package, especially areas that have a future. Eventually, there has to be some training monies put out like happened in the 1980's. I was involved with some of those programs at the college where I taught. But I hear there's not much training money out there - but it will come.

In the meantime we all have to do the best we can. Frances, don't beat yourself up for putting your medical bills on credit cards. I had to do the same thing when I was paying for my own health insurance before I got that part time job. But that's why I'm in trouble now because I could no longer pay the cards. I have a feeling that will be the next area that is going to fall apart, but many of us accumulated lots of debt and can't pay it, but it wasn't all on frivolous things. Medical bills are the main reason for bankruptcies in the U.S. The comforting thing is that we're not going through this alone, that's for sure.

Frances keep your eyes open for all the possible program for homeowners who are in trouble. You may be able to get some help. I hope so!

PaLady

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, PA.
I was so hoping that the Mortgage Assistance program that was introduced earlier this month would do the trick, but you have to submit a month's worth of pay stubs to qualify. Since this month's pay stub was all screwed up, that only leaves next month's to get this straightened out. With losing my job the 3rd week of next month, that would only give me one week to get the loan closed & I know that's not even close to possible. But if I get a job, that will be the first item on my list to take care of. Plus, I will definitely be on the look-out for possible assistance programs yet to come down the pipeline.

wishing you the best as well,
frances

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   Posted 3/14/2009 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Frances, we moved to Chicago area in spring 1992 to take a church in the burbs that was in trouble. They could not pay so I had to look for work. I had worked for Family Services in IN before moving to IL. Back then the state was sued because they were not offering enough services to families that were labled "at risk" I was hired and worked on E. Division. Boy did I stick out ( you can imagine)traveling around the area investigating child abuse. The projects were not my favorite place to have to show up by myself. I was shot at more in Chicago than when I was a law enforcement officer in Montana. I remember one day after ending up in the middle of a volley of gunfire that I did not even go back to the office. I drove home and called the office and said I would be in the next day. They hired over 200 of us at one time just for Chicago. I was involved in several large cases that hit the national news. Oh, the good old days.
May this next week hold opportunity for you and PAlady. I have a friend in a high place and I will be in contact and will mention your names.

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   Posted 3/14/2009 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Frances,

I just have to say, that your little "news flashes" just made my day! You guys are too funny! Thanks for the smiles & laughter!

Skeye

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh man, these KSA's are killin' me. I thought I was all good & had finally finished. Well, I decided to google some more to see if I could find a few more tips to polish them up. Yeah... instead I found out that a different person reads each KSA so I need to re-work all of my stupid answers that I had ever-so-carefully pared down and deleted duplication of information from one response to the next, only to now come to find out that they WANT candidates to endlessly repeat the same stupid information. ARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH! I sure the heck better get this job! That's all I have to say about the matter!

All this crap just so I can get a job ordering supplies and scheduling meetings. I tell ya, if the federal government were a private business, it would fail within a matter of months.

And I really have to pray that my credit score doesn't go plummeting anytime soon b/c that is one of the requirements of the job. I'm not quite sure I understand that. As we've all seen in the news recently, even people who are insanely rich can lack morals. People are people. If they don't have any morals & feel it is their god-given right to swindle naive people out of money, they will do so regardless of whether their credit score is 50 or 850. Last I checked I still have a good credit score, but it just scares me how I need a job to pay my bills, but at the same time I can't get a job b/c I'm not able to pay my bills. Talk about the rich getting richer & the poor getting poorer. Someone needs to DO something about this madness. smhair WIIIILLLLSSSOOONNNNNNNNNN!

PAlady
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   Posted 3/14/2009 11:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Frances,
Do they just check your credit score (lots of employers do this now) or require a minimum score. I didn't think the feds could discirminate like that unless you had committed some crime, or the job was maybe counseling people about financial problems.

The way the credit card companies are screwing with people who are current on payments - they are closing accounts, increasing interest rates, etc., even if you've never been late - that could affect a FICO score and you'd have no control over it. I wouldn't worry about it as there's little you can do but if it comes down to it explain your situation (and that's a big boat you're in with lots of people!).

Get used to the frustration with govt. jobs, though, and make sure you save everything you've done for each application, so you can cut and paste things in the future. Also, I found at times if there were a lot of veterans competing, or others who had already been in the system from somewhere, you may not even get an interview. Try not to let it get you down. Because it only takes one, and it could be a good career path for someone your age.

Keep yelling - maybe those Wilson's are out there somewhere and can help out!!

PaLady
Skeye - glad we made you laught! And fatherjohn, I had to remind myself you were a sheriff when you talked about getting shot at! I was trying to figure out why a pastor would attract such fire! Either way, scary stuff! smhair

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/14/2009 11:47 PM (GMT -7)   
They said they run a credit check. Not all departments do that. DEA is super strict. DOJ is not so much. There are lots of jobs with each of those departments in my area, so I am hoping to land something with one of them. shhhh ... don't tell anyone, but I'm not really looking for a career path, just enough money to get back on my feet & then I'm back to teaching -- or maybe will take some time off if I get married & have children.

The problem is that there are so many job seekers & they put the part about the credit report in all capital letters, so I kinda get the impression it's important. I've missed some payments lately what with being on unpaid leave & such. If I explain it like that then it means admitting that I was on a 4-month LOA & I'm trying to avoid that. I'm healthy now & it really was a RIF, so I'd like to try to keep the part about me being sick & having surgery out of it, but that's looking less & less possible by the day.

I want to just scream at these people that I don't take bribes, don't transfer money out of company accounts & don't steal office supplies. I am trying to be honest & hardworking. If I weren't, never mind the office supplies, I could have wired money from my old company into some off-shore account in my name. I funded tens of millions of dollars in wire transfers a day & had almost no supervision. One would think that would factor into people's views of who is trustworthy, but perhaps not so much.

I already have to explain about my medication (though they say that won't be an issue), I'm just so tired of explaining everything all the time. I just want a job. I swear if I can just get some money that I will pay all my bills & such. I am good with money & can get things together, I just need some income to make that happen. Oh man, so aggravating!

peace,
frances

PS -- Thanks so much for all your ideas & encouragement. It is so hard to keep going with this. My dad (who has had the same employer for his entire adult life) just keeps saying that I just need to stay positive & keep sending out resumes & applications. yeah, yeah, i know that. It's not that I'm lacking any knowledge about how to go about getting a job & I interview really well, so if I could just land some interviews I'd be golden. It's just really frustrating to look at all the bills I can't pay, have to take time out to go line up for food, utilities money & other benefits, and then have to try to search for a job not only in the midst of that but in a depressing economic climate that the morning, afternoon & evening news people all describe in ever more sensationalistic terms. Sometimes I wish I lived in Russia. They outlawed all negative news stories about their national economy. I try to not watch the news, but it is posted everywhere & a lot of the websites banners about the news, it just can't be avoided entirely.
But I know you at least get how hard it can be to try & keep up with everything & I really appreciate that about you. Sometimes we just need less truth & more empathy. Along those lines, I've been thinking about starting a Job Seekers group at my church where people could come for prayer, support, advice & encouragement. HW has been really great & I just wish I could share this experience with more people. Well ... maybe I can. I'm going to look into it tomorrow. :)

Post Edited (Frances_2008) : 3/15/2009 1:00:50 AM (GMT-6)


PAlady
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   Posted 3/14/2009 11:56 PM (GMT -7)   
It just adds to the pain and aggravation that people like you and me (and many on this forum) get caught in human situations - like with health, money, - but have been honest and operated with integrity all our lives. But for me that's even been called into question via one doctor's statements on my W.C. claim, and now my credit is ruined probably for life. You're so right, it's not fair, especially not when you see the fat cats walk away with bonuses and such, but I'd better hold my tongue about that!!!!

I wonder how much they can use your credit score in ranking you for an interview. It's an interesting legal question and I don't know the answer. And I know about being caught in the LOA/RIF thing because that's what happened to me. Except my surgery wasn't successful but your RF was, so I wouldn't mention anything to them unless asked.

I'd see if you can find any legal info. - even searching on discrimination issues - to see if it can be used against you before you're even interviewed. I know the feds score most all these things in a very computerized way anymore - look for keywords, etc. and then add up all the points and those with the highest get an interview. It's very objective, which is good and bad. But I wonder if your credit score is used in the point structure. Hmm...

PaLady
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