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Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/17/2009 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I now have my doubts my friends that the SCS will be tried. Why you may be asking? I received a call from the Psychologist that did the evaluation today and it seems I forgot a few things in my history. I forgot that I was hospitalized when I was 21 for a mental breakdown after I left my first husband. I forgot about a couple of years that I experimented.....(I'll leave it at that). And it seems I forgot to add that the second eval I told the psychologist that I did NOT have a happy childhood.

All these things are not giving me a good vibe about actually being approved for the SCS. It's been many years since all these things really happened except for telling the second psych about my childhood and even though I explained or thought I explained myself for forgetting these things I just really don't think he is going to approve me now. He asked what I would think about seeing a pain psychologist and I told him I didn't have a problem with that. I actually think it would be a good thing. But even after talking with my workers comp agent I don't think they will pay for that either. Apparently its on a case by case basis and if they do go for it I would only get to go for 6 months max.

So now I am feeling blue and depressed, even though I should keep my hopes up. It is so darn hard to keep the faith now. There was a thread about getting our hopes up and I think that is now what I have done is gone too far with the hopes that they would approve me for the stim and I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that all hope is lost. I know ya'll are thinking don't do this but its so darn hard not to after being denied time after time and having to go through hoop after hoop for the sake of my stupid pain.

I need some HOPE!

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Scarred
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Becoming undone
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   Posted 3/17/2009 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred...you are my rock...you have posted so many great things...I will ask and pray to the powers that be (one polyanna is still rooting for you)....

So through this computer of mine....((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((scarred)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))...I so wish I could do more for you...

Again, I hope your feeling is wrong (like when you think you did awful on an exam and did well...but it hurts less if you do indeed do bad not to get your hopes up too high)...again,.((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((scarred))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) is all I can offer, and an ear...
"The earth laughs in flowers"


Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 3/17/2009 5:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred,

How did they know you were hospitalized when you were 21.

How did they find out that you experimented?

Good Gravyboat, do they expect us to have a happy childhood to receive good
medical attention? If so, they definitely need their ears pulled (or SOMETHING pulled)
Not having good medical attention could make this unhappy childhood turn into
an unhappy adulthood. Tell them that for me!

Pamela

skeye
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   Posted 3/17/2009 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   
(((((((((((((((Scarred))))))))))))))))). I'm so sorry! Geez, how are you supposed to remember to mention every little thing that happened over your entire life, especially if it was long ago &/or something you tried to forget!

Sending you all the positive vibes I can muster!

Skeye

PAlady
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred,
First, try not to think the worst. The psychologist may have just been trying to clarify things for his report.

But if they deny you I really think you need an impartial eval - or have your attorney get a competing expert opinion. If the psychologist recommends you seeing a pain therapist, hopefuly W.C. will have to pay for it. Again, some of this is legal stuff. I think W.C. is just out to deny people and give them a hard time, regardless. There's nothing fair about it. Others have posted about their problems with the system, too. It's not you, so try not to take it so personally.

I wish I had better answers, but wait unti you get the final outcome. You've done all you can up to this point. Whatever happens is not your fault!

PaLady

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:27 PM (GMT -7)   
It was put in my last eval PA. I had completely forgotten about both things cause it had been years since I havr thought about either. I will wait and see but, I hold out no hope,,,,,just lots of prayers

Hugsss

Scarred
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bluejet2
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Scarred:

I had a nervous breakdown just weeks before I had the neurostimulator implanted. The breakdown was a result of my not coping well with the pain and with what the pain was doing to my life. My doctor understood that I was at the end of my rope because of the suffering, and went ahead with the implant because it was hopefully going to help the pain.

I know my pain doctor told me that he did not do this surgery until he knew a patient for a year so that he was sure that the patient didn't have unrealistic expectations, and I would assume that if your doctors are looking into your past with such detail, that they are doing this in an effort to get to know you well. I fully understand the idea of not getting your hopes up too high so that you are not too disappointed if things don't work out, but it doesn't mean to give up hope all together.

I sincerely hope that everything works out!

Chartreux
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Scarred, can't you just tell him, that you forgot, People forget things all the time and why
didn't he bring this up with you at your meeting? Anyways, I sure hope this won't count against
you and will says a prayer for you...
I sincerely hope that this will all work out, it still might...
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fatherjohn
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred, after reading your post I had several reactions. Remember I know people and just let me know where this shrink works and consider it taken care of. Just Kidding. Then my mind went to my eval that is coming up. Wow, I might as well not show up. My past is so clutttered with garbage the shrink will have to use a trash compacter just to fit it on his note. Don't let the name Fatherjohn fool you. I had to use creative storry telling to hired as a law enforcement officer. My bet is still on you. I will be praying for you. 

PAlady
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   Posted 3/17/2009 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, Fatherjohn - you have me ROFL! I suggest you tell them you're writing a novel and sometimes you get the characters confused with your life!

PaLady :-)

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/17/2009 11:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred,
I will still keep hoping & praying for you to get approved for the SCS.

As far as the pain psychologist, I would think 6 months would be more than sufficient. In my experiences at least, pain psychologist doesn't get all into the analysis & such. They are almost always trained as behavioral psychologists. They will observe & ask you about specific behaviors that you choose. Then, they will talk about how those behaviors may be keeping you from being as fully functioning and/or happy as you could be. Next, they will discuss strategies for changing your behaviors (in my case it was: no more training for half marathons, take your pain meds as prescribed instead of trying to tough it out & wait until you've gone into shock/blacked out before taking anything, do visualization exercises -- we practiced & made tapes during a couple sessions, make a list of things you're grateful for, find some sort of low impact exercises you can do everyday, and avoid sharing anything of any meaning with your family b/c they will only reply with disparaging remarks). For me, it was really quite helpful & I liked it b/c I could see results in a fairly short period of time.

I realized that without meaning to that I was getting in the way of my treatment through some of the things I was choosing. By overdoing. By waiting until the pain was so out of control that the medication really didn't even help much. By not making a point to take regular "mental breaks" from the pain & all the stress it brought to my life. I think it could probably help you too. I went once a month for 9 months, but you could probably get everything learned & added to your daily routine if you were to go once a month for 6 months. Anyways, just wanted to encourage you that it's not like regular counseling where you need years to make even a dent in the problem -- pain psychology can help you pretty quickly & you will learn everything you could possibly learn in 6-12 visits anyways so after that the counselor would just be repeating himself/herself.

best wishes,
frances

straydog
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   Posted 3/18/2009 11:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Scarred, I am not giving up and don't you either. I would think by your explanation of totally forgetting the incidences it may come across as of something that is not having any bearing on your life today. But, then I ain't a doc, darn it!!! Oh, the hoops they are putting you thru are just infuriating. I am sure others will totally disagree but from where I stand and the crap thats going with this psych eval, I see alot of of unnecessary BS being shoved down your throat. I just don't see the purpose of this crap they are dragging up. You have pain, eval you on your expectation of what this SCS can do in terms of possibly helping you, not what the hel happened 25 feaking yrs ago. I am not making the connection. Sorry, I am beginning to get mad and sound like I am ranting & that was not my intent. Hugs, Susie


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/18/2009 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree Susie and I'm not giving up by no means :-). It's frustrating that we have to jump through so many hoops to get the relief that we so desire! I don't understand why a 25 year old hospitalization nor what I did 30 years ago as a young stupid woman has any bearing on my current state of mind. The reason I did not remember them was exactly as you stated, Susie.....it has no bearing on my life as of now and I don't intend on ever repeating those steps again! I think if anything it really helped me to grow as a human being and as everyone knows we ALL make a mistake or two that we are not proud of in our lives. But to say that I'm not qualified to have the SCS because of something that happened 20 some odd years ago is not only ridiculous but totally prejudges to me!!! I know that the psych evaluation has to happen but geeeez do they have to bring up so many things from my past??? I'm not psychotic here...I just want some pain relief!

As my doctor has told me this is my last resort for any kind of relief as the medications will not work on the nerve pain. What really gets me is I would like to know if my nerves that are impinged will deteriorate anymore? Can this possibly be a situation where I can end up worse then I am now? If so then why are they pushing so hard to keep me on my current medication?

Ok....time to get off my soap box cause I'm getting angry LOL.

Hugssssssssss Don't give up on me yet! I will figure out a way to get some relief!

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   Posted 3/18/2009 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred,
 
I under went that MMPI too for the pump. Now, I did not have a problem with the pain portion of the written test.
 
What I did have a problem with was some of the crap on the other portion. In many ways it was like having trick questions put in front of you. Like lets see if she answers this questions the same way ever time, it was multiple choice of course.
 
When I actually had my appt later with the psychiatrist, we covered it all from childhood up. Let me tell you, my childhood was lousy and rotten with divorced parents that could not have one drink together without all outright slugging match. Although they divorced when I was very young, they did the back & forth thing till I was 15. All I can is it was awful, no child should ever live like we did and I made darn sure my kids did not grow up that way too. They were dysfunctionable long before that word ever popped up lol.  But, at the same time the doc did not dwell on this.
 
I just don't get what the importance of how we grow up affects what we expect from a SCS to a pump. I think if they are going to do these eval, why not center it around the pain, isn't that why we are there, to try to get something to help us. What the hell else matters. If you want to know if I felt like shooting myself a time or two because of severe pain, ask. Ask me all you want about how I take my medications and what happens, or ask me if I ever abused drugs, but just keep it the actual reason for the equipment centered of how I have handled pain in the past and how I am currently handling it.  I woud think the overall basis should be made on how you present your self, your case how ir affects daily living.
 
I do feel this dr would like very much to help you. I also think he knows where you are at emotionally and why trying the SCS would be a very good choice for you. I think he will look at the big picture instead of the box. This why I feel good about things. Hugs, Susie


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/18/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree Susie! There are points to the Evaluation that I can see dwelling on. Overall pain control.....how a person handles the every day stressors of our day.......how we take our medications and are we prone to abusing them.......how our pain affects our daily lives.....our support chain at home...and such but, bringing up something that happened 30 years ago who cares!! I have gotten past my first marriage and think that it has made me a stronger person for going through it but, that is where it should stop! There is no need to drudge up whether my childhood was a pleasant one or whether my parents beat the crap out of me. Because of one thing.....I do not dwell upon the past and have quit holding things in (my feelings and what I think about things).

My first evaluation psych told me that the tests they do are 90% accurate. Now this infuriated me! I wouldn't want a mechanic to only repair 90% of what is wrong with my car...or have a doctor only treat 90% of my pain. That would be just insane....so why in the hell are they expecting me to stand there and allow them to group me together with 90% of patients in pain?

I'm not going to dwell on the negative of this SCS....only the positive and if he doesn't approve me well then I will just deal with what I have to. I have to keep myself calm about this and try to get through it.

Hugs

Scarred
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uniquelyme
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   Posted 3/18/2009 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
 
I have a question about the evaluation part of this process...Why do you have to see a psycologist in the first place?  I mean, what does mental health have to do with having your pain issues taken care of in a way that is better then taking all kinds of pills?  You'd think that they would love it if your pain was better....Just asking.
 
Me.
 
If I ever had to go see a psychologist for a pain pump....OMG!! They would NEVER give me one.

 
We are all in the same boat...unfortunatley it seems like it's sinking...
 
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PAlady
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   Posted 3/19/2009 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Me,
Believe it or not, there really are a lot of valid reasons, although I think in some cases (like possibly with Scarred) it's also used as just another hoop. That more than annoys me as it gives the process a bad rap.

For one thing, our history shows how we cope with things like challlenges (like pain and others) and that can give clues as to how we might or might not cope with a pump or SCS, or any other major treatment for that matter. If expectations are unrealistic, then even what could be considered a successful procedure or treatment might be considered unsuccessful by a patient because there were unrealistic expectations, or an inability to cope. And what kind of childhood we've had can play a role in the coping style we develop.

Let me give you an example from a different process. Psychological evaluations are required for bariatric surgery. Things that are considered are what weight management stratgies have been tried over the years, and how successful or unsuccessful they've been. Bariatric surgery doesn't cure everything; one will have to change their eating habits significantly or weight can go back on. So a person needs to deal with the emotional reasons for eating or in the long run the procedure will be unsuccessful. And there are tons of reasons for emotional eating, as many of us know! Our emotions play a role in pain, also, and how we manage it. If you have anxiety and depression, or other mental health histories, it doesn't mean you shouldn't get an SCS or pump, but how you deal with those things can greatly influence how you manage pain.

I know it doesn't seem like there's a relationship, but there is. However, I think in far too many instances these evals are misused.

PaLady

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/19/2009 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree PA that in some instances the evaluation is totally worthless as a indicator for pain control. As with me, I have dealt with all my issues as far as my family.....my drug addiction many many years ago.....and other things from my past that have knocked me down for awhile. I once was a very timid person, not wishing to irritate anyone and wanting everyone to think the best of me as well as liking me. But after 45 years on this good earth I have learned that "you can't always get what you want" as the Rolling Stones put into a song. I was a people pleaser at one time in my life and thought that I could make my parents always proud of me at all times.

But......something I have learned over the past 45 years and I think this comes with age, is that your not always going to get that perfect ending to every scenario. I have learned that the only person I must please in my life is ME.....and hubby once in a while but, he is easy to please as he loves everything about me as I am. I can look at my reflection in the mirror and like what I see and that is all that counts. My experiences from my past are a mute point since I have dealt with them and know what I will never go back to. I didn't like Me a long time ago and I think that was my biggest problem.

So as you can see I don't see why my past has anything to do with my current state of mind mentally anyway. I believe that all the hoops in the world I can clamor through and still they would reject me. LOL of course I will continue to fight for my pain control cause that's how I am. :-)

I'm not making any sense now so I will close for now.

Hugs

Scarred
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PAlady
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   Posted 3/19/2009 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Scarred,
You're making perfect sense! I actually think your past has a lot to do with your current state of mind - but in a positive way. Someone who takes the time will see all the challenges you've met, and that a trial with the SCS will not be what makes or breaks you in life.

But also as you said, my hunch is they may just find another hoop for you to jump through, which is saying it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with the W.C. system just rejecting you at every step. That's a legal issue not a psychological one.

Hugs!!

PaLady

straydog
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   Posted 3/19/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Amen Scarred, you hit it right on the head. I could not agree with you more. However, on the light note of things, I do still feel this dr really wants to help you in getting the SCS and I feel he knows in his heart you should have every option available in reaching that goal.

Hugs, Susie


mom9mom
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   Posted 3/19/2009 10:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Scarred I will pray for you it`s about all I can do for you.I would think that the Psychologist would understand how you forgot to tell them about these two things.Most people would not have a hard time remembering some thing this important but for those of us with C/P do this all the time because of the type of medications we take we forget everything.Even something we just said.Yesterday I lost my car keys 2 times in a half hour.I would think that the Psychologist has had to deal with this in Pryor patients.So maybe there is still hope.Good Luck.
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Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/20/2009 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh man did you hit the nail on the head mom! I cannot even recall all the times I have forgotten things!! If I don't write things down it passes through my brain as fast as it got in there! I swear with all the medications us CPers are on that we even remember our names half the time. :-D I've locked myself out of my house (not the new one yet LOL), forgotten to put the trash out, forgotten to call my son's, forgotten birthdays.......it's surprising I remember to dress every day LOL.

Well said Susie! I truly believe that my new doctor is 100% on my side and will go to war beside me against WC. I'm ready for it too. It just amazes me how many hoops we all have to jump through to get anything done on our cases. Sometimes I feel like we are in a circus!! ha ha ha

Hugssssss to all of you for the support!

Scarred
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MiaVT
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   Posted 3/20/2009 11:55 AM (GMT -7)   

Dear Scarred:

 

I know that when I started seeing my Physiatrist (pain mgmt specialist), he was WAY more paranoid than the person who had been (lightly) medicating me before!!!  He insisted that I go through an assessment with a Pain Psychologist (which I thought was FOOLISH since he KNEW I was a Mental Health Clinician/Program Director & could have GIVEN the assessment MYSELF), Ph.D. BEFORE he would prescribe ANYTHING!!!  I had to wait 6 weeks for this Psychologist to have an opening, then do 3, 1 and 1/2 hr appts for the assessment PLUS follow up.  I HAD my OWN PSYCHIATRIST.  I didn't NEED a Psychologist, "Thank You Very Much".  As soon as I started getting my pain meds, I stopped going as soon as I could!!!

 

I don't know how your Pain Psychologist got access to your info about hospitalization, past abuse issues, history of drug use...  You said something about having a FIRST evaluation?  Was this something that would've been in your Pain Doc's files so the Psychologist would automatically have access to it?  Or was it done in another setting so that he'd have to LEGALLY have a RELEASE to KNOW the info???

 

Anyway, knowing what I know due to my profession--there were just SOME things that Psychologist wasn't gonna get to KNOW!!!  1) I have Depression (stable for MANY years) & was hospitalized 4 or 5 times (!!!) between 18 & 21.  When I was in high school I drank EVERY DAY & took whatever drugs I could get my hands on (all of which I quit when I was 16)!!!  I KNEW (though adolescent malcontent &drug use is pretty irrelevant to me) that they would NEVER medicate me with THAT kind of drug/alcohol abuse history AND mental instability--despite the fact that I was now in my 40's, with kids in college, and a Professional in the Community.  "History" is looked at in "black & white" in the medical profession.

 

THAT SAID...  It's not like you're looking for shots of Demerol!!!  You're talking about Spinal Cord Stimulation, if I understand your abbreviation correctly!!!  THAT could actually reduce your needs for narcotic medication--which I would think your Doc would be all for!!!  AND I bet he WILL be!

 

I TOTALLY agree with "Straydog":

 

"...I just don't get what the importance of how we grow up affects what we expect from a SCS to a pump. I think if they are going to do these eval, why not center it around the pain, isn't that why we are there, to try to get something to help us...  ...Ask me all you want about how I take my medications...  ... if I ever abused drugs, but just keep it the actual reason for the equipment centered of how I have handled pain in the past and how I am currently handling it...  ... how ir affects daily living..."

 [Sorry about the "condensed" version!!!]

I REALLY believe THAT is what YOUR Doc is going to be interested in--in the end!!!  Remember, the WC people are there, honestly, to try and SAVE their company MONEY!!!  They are paying out BIG BUCKS.  Your DOC is there to ADVOCATE for YOU--to make documentation SO clear...  ...that it would be ILLEGAL for WC to refuse to pay.

Your Doc is your BEST FRIEND (IF you have a good rapport).  Try to think of that and not to get "bummed out in advance".

Blessings to You;

Mia

 



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PAlady
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   Posted 3/20/2009 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Miavt,
Since you're relatively new to the chronic pain forum at HW, I want to say hello and welcome you.

That being said, there are some aspects of your post here that just don't "fit" to me. There are several of us here with varying backgrounds in health care, mental health, etc., although we don't supply any medical advice as it's both against the forum rules, and we're here as CP patients.

Many of these legal processes should be well known to a mental health professional, especially a clinic director. It's normal that in any kind of insurance, legal, etc. proceedings one is required to sign releases for information in order for things to proceed. Trying to hide past information intentionally would be fraud, and should it be found out your case would automatically be turned down. Scarred has been in this worker's comp. battle for awhile (Scarred I am not implying in any way you withheld informaton intentionally - this isn't direct at you, friend!) so of course they're going to have all the past records. And it's also a normal part of the process to be required to go for I.M.E.'s (Independent Medical Examinations) - including for mental health issues. Any licensed mental health professional would know you can't do these on yourself, nor should you even try. And while the records of your own providers (psychiatrists, physiatrists, PCP's, etc.) can and should be a part of the record, policies of worker's comp. and other legal proceedings require IME's, even if they are biased in their own direction.

Hiding past histories of any sort can also be dangerous. So I wonder why you seem to take that so lightly. At any rate, this is Scarred's thread, and I don't want to take it off track. But something in your response doesn't fit.

My apologies if I've offended you, Mia.

PaLady

Post Edited (PAlady) : 3/20/2009 3:39:28 PM (GMT-6)


BionicWoman
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   Posted 3/21/2009 12:58 AM (GMT -7)   
The reason the psychologists assess you from childhood through adulthood is to identify your life-long coping mechanisms, so that they have a complete picture of how you cope with situations where you have little to no control.

Think of it in actual visual picture format -

If I were to hand you picture focused on woman throwing a baby and asked you - based solely on the information in the photo - whether or not you'd leave your infant in that woman's care, you'd probably tell me hell no.

But what if I "zoomed out" to the entire picture and the woman was in the window of a burning building and a firefighter was just out of reach, but close enough to catch the baby? Would that change your mind about leaving your infant with that woman?

The SCS is no different. The doctors need to see the whole picture and it's ultimately to your benefit; otherwise you may find yourself being thrown out a window with no firefighter to catch you.
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